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UPDATE: Man Dies on Black Friday; Shoppers Unfazed (West Virginia)
WSAZ-TV ^ | November 25, 2011 | Andrew Colegrove

Posted on 11/26/2011 1:51:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t know that I can really fault the shoppers, and there were two who jumped right in to help anyway.

I was in a hospital cafeteria when a woman collapsed nearby. The response was quick. People near her in line caught her as she was falling so she landed softly. While I was still wondering if I needed to run over and do CPR, the crash team came running in. So, all I ended up doing was telling my friend that we needed to stay out of the way. Less than five minutes after her collapse, the crash team had whisked her away. And everyone else continued to get lunch.


41 posted on 11/26/2011 9:08:55 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: stansblugrassgrl; bvw

What bvw said. BUMP.


42 posted on 11/26/2011 9:09:46 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (minds change)
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To: Tax-chick
Would a mob of untrained people yelling, “OMG, OMG!” have produced a better outcome?

It would have made a better headline, and that's all that really matters.

43 posted on 11/26/2011 9:10:03 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The very idea of a community organizer is to stir up a mob for some political purpose." Ann Coulter)
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To: goat granny
Keeping the patient down is also the best as you never know if there may be a broken bone that can cause major problems if the person gets up...stay with the person until medical help arrives and keep them comfortable as possible, but laying still.

Oh, my, that so didn't happen when I broke my pelvis. I jumped around hysterically until someone put me in his car and drove me to the hospital. Then I didn't jump around any more; I could barely move.

44 posted on 11/26/2011 9:13:31 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So this poor guy had no help at all, except from two highly trained professionals, a paramedic and an ER nurse. No help at all!

"Man Dies on Black Friday; Shoppers Unfazed"

He didn't die in the store, he died after he had been taken to the hospital.

This is how "journalism" became a four letter word.

45 posted on 11/26/2011 10:27:52 PM PST by TChad
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To: exDemMom

ouch :O( how are you doing now? Fine I hope. GG


46 posted on 11/26/2011 11:36:43 PM PST by goat granny
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The hype of these sales is awful. My email box has been full of them all week.


47 posted on 11/26/2011 11:37:02 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Vance was 61 years old. Friends say he's has had heart problems for years and had open heart surgery in 2000

Missed being a "unit" by a few years.

48 posted on 11/27/2011 12:31:30 AM PST by spokeshave (Cain....100% American, 100% Black and 100% for the Constitution...999 an added benefit.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The other day an older man fell to the floor where we were. We ran to him to help him and others did too. Thank The LORD that he had just slipped or something and fell backwards on the floor but was able with help to get up and seemed fine. It was scary and the first thing you think and do is can I help? The second thing is I sure hope that he’s OK.


49 posted on 11/27/2011 12:46:33 AM PST by Bellflower (Judas Iscariot, first democrat, robber, held the money bag, claimed to care for poor: John 12:4-6)
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To: Figment

>FWIW, good samaritan laws protect people who try to help in situations like this.

“Good Samaritan Laws” do not, in ANY form, protect you from civil lawsuits. They protect you from legal liability.

Nor do they pay the bills when you’re forced to pay tens of thousands of dollars out of pocket to defend yourself against some ambulance-chasing bloodsucker.

Fear of parasitic lawyers is still a legit one.

Samaritan laws also do not protect you should there be ANY possible argument that you were performing incorrectly, or that your actions could have contributed to the damages.

This argument is quite common in instances of falls or car crashes where there is eventual nerve damage due to spinal injuries. Regardless of the outcome, it will be argued that you moving the victim contributed to the damage should there be a need to move them.

In the case of a heart attack, cracked ribs from compressions are quite common. In this event, a parasite can and will attempt to sue you under the argument that you performed CPR incorrectly by using too much force. (An absolutely BS allegation, but one that has been argued successfully many times.)

In fact, holding a CPR training certificate INCREASES your legal liability should you attempt to aid another, as the bloodsuckers will argue that by having training you should “know better.” Our company lawyers have actually suggested those wishing to know CPR that don’t need it for their job take all of the training but refuse to sign and accept certification at the end. By not having that certification you get more leeway should something go wrong.


50 posted on 11/27/2011 1:21:03 AM PST by Shinma
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To: goat granny
ouch :O( how are you doing now? Fine I hope. GG

Oh, that happened over 30 years ago. I'm so fine, there is no way to tell I ever broke the bone. ;-)

51 posted on 11/27/2011 3:15:33 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Well, Chugabrew (love your name, by the way), when someone helps another in need, it should be the rule not the exception. We didn’t do anything extraordinary, just what we had to do. Luckily, we know some basic first aid and have a lot of common sense. I think the biggest thing is keeping your wits about you when confronted with a horrible sight. One of our neighbors finally happened by (there were only about 6 of us). He was so upset by the devastating injuries, he couldn’t function.


52 posted on 11/27/2011 6:31:38 AM PST by stansblugrassgrl (PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!! YEEEEEHAW!)
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