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UPDATE: Man Dies on Black Friday; Shoppers Unfazed (West Virginia)
WSAZ-TV ^ | November 25, 2011 | Andrew Colegrove

Posted on 11/26/2011 1:51:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

SOUTH CHARLESTON, W.Va. (WSAZ) -- A man collapsed while doing some Black Friday shopping in a crowded store, and people nearby continued to shop.

Witnesses tell WSAZ.com some shoppers walked around and even over the man's body.

Family members tell WSAZ.com that Walter Vance, of Logan County, W.Va., passed away after being taken to the hospital.

It happened at Target in the Southridge Shopping Center in South Charleston about 12:15 a.m. Friday.

Vance got sick and collapsed on the floor while shopping for Christmas decorations for his newly remodeled workplace.

Vance started working at the Aracoma Drug Company store in Logan when he was 16. He liked it so much, he went to pharmacy school at WVU and has worked there ever since.

He started a new Aracoma Drug Company store in Chapmanville and had co-owned it since the 70's.

Vance was 61 years old. Friends say he's has had heart problems for years and had open heart surgery in 2000, but his death came as a shock, and what happened in the final moments of his life only adds to the heartbreak.

"Where is the good Samaritan side of people?” Vance’s co-worker and friend Sue Compton said. “How could you not notice someone was in trouble? I just don't understand if people didn't help what their reason was, other than greed because of a sale."

One of the late night shoppers tells WSAZ.com what really disturbs her about the situation was the lack of concern by the rest of the shoppers.

An E.R. nurse happened to be one of the late night shoppers and tried to administer CPR. She and an off-duty paramedic who was also shopping did try to help Vance while he was on the floor.

An ambulance was called to the store. Vance was taken to the hospital, but later died.

WSAZ.com called Target Friday. So far, they haven't released a statement about what happened.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: blackfriday; shopping; westvirginia
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1 posted on 11/26/2011 1:51:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He died doing what he loved to do!


2 posted on 11/26/2011 1:52:29 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The good Samaritan side of people has been curtailed by lawsuits.


3 posted on 11/26/2011 1:53:09 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll

Which is why we hear stories of doctors refusing to treat people unless they are actally in the hospital where they have the protection of their lawyers.


4 posted on 11/26/2011 1:58:02 PM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Where is the good Samaritan side of people?”

It disappeared when ambulance chasers became abundant.

5 posted on 11/26/2011 2:02:05 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What would the Obama’s have done in this case?

Probably kick and walk over Him!


6 posted on 11/26/2011 2:09:13 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

People are terrified of lawsuits—one part of the problem, the other is simply greed.

May God bless the two who did try to help.


7 posted on 11/26/2011 2:13:52 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If people read the article, they would see that a nurse and a paramedic assisted the gentleman, to the extent they could, and someone obviously called 911. Would a mob of untrained people yelling, “OMG, OMG!” have produced a better outcome?


8 posted on 11/26/2011 2:22:10 PM PST by Tax-chick (Thomas Sowell. Accept no substitutes!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actually, if you read this story with care, it’s hard to tell whether people were much to blame or not. Someone did give him emergency care, and someone called an ambulance? Others, not being able to help, stood by or stayed back, which seems sensible.

What the story does not say is how long help was delayed? Did they ignore him for 15 minutes? Half an hour? Or did someone call 911 fairly quickly? It’s really unclear.

Maybe there was neglect. Or maybe the reporter just wanted a good story. It’s uncertain, because the story leaves out key details.


9 posted on 11/26/2011 2:24:16 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well in defense of the shoppers, if you see a man down on the floor and a nurse is administering CPR as the story says. It doesn’t really help, and it could actually hurt for 500 people to crowd around looking concerned and trying to help, (too many cooks in the kitchen so to speak). Sometimes the best thing you can do in such as situation is whisper a prayer and continue walking.


10 posted on 11/26/2011 2:25:47 PM PST by apillar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The news reporting on so-called “Black Friday” is getting to be too much to bear. I suspect people die in stores every day of the year with varying amounts of subsequent aid from passers-by.


11 posted on 11/26/2011 2:30:24 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: BfloGuy

Yep, I had a guy drop right in front of me not too long ago while I was walking around a mall. He turned ashen and went into shock just as the ambulance arrived. I said, “good to see you guys, it’s all yours.”

FWIW, good samaritan laws protect people who try to help in situations like this.


12 posted on 11/26/2011 2:43:54 PM PST by wbill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Story didn’t say , but most large stores have a defib nowadays


13 posted on 11/26/2011 2:44:33 PM PST by Figment
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To: SatinDoll
There are good Samaritan laws in all 50 states. If the victim is conscious , they may refuse your help and you leave them for the paramedics. If they are unconscious, that is considered implied consent
14 posted on 11/26/2011 2:49:58 PM PST by Figment
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To: skr

The two professionals who tried to help may actually be required by law to do so


15 posted on 11/26/2011 2:51:59 PM PST by Figment
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To: True Republican Patriot

Obama??? It depends on the color and religious affiliation of the victim before Obama cares.


16 posted on 11/26/2011 2:52:35 PM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Lawsuits my azz. If I saw a person on the floor I would be screaming for help, not ignoring or stepping over them.

However I have never nor will I ever go shopping like these people do. I blame the stores for instigating this crap. There are more civilized ways to get people to think they're saving money.

Humans are becoming more and more unbearable.

I'm glad I'm in my 70's.

17 posted on 11/26/2011 2:56:55 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (WE ARE AMERICA! DONATE TO FR MORE!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I cannot imagine why anyone would go shopping the day after thanksgiving...Read about one woman that bite a guy reaching for the same waffle iron she wanted..these people are crazy...good time to stay home...


18 posted on 11/26/2011 3:12:23 PM PST by goat granny
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To: EGPWS

truer words were never spoken.....


19 posted on 11/26/2011 3:13:09 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Figment

The defib is only used on a specific type of heart problem....sometimes if there is no bleeding to stop, you and the person are better off doing nothing.


20 posted on 11/26/2011 3:15:36 PM PST by goat granny
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