Posted on 11/30/2011 6:28:08 AM PST by bray
If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, “LOVE your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing right. James 2:8
When Bill Clinton gave his famous finger wagging speech I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt. A commie lib friend of mine called and axed me what I thought and was defending him when I told him this is America and people are presumed innocent until proven guilty. The only argument we had was that if he would go on TV and lie to the American people then he should resign since that seemed unimaginable at the time. Even though I knew all about BJ’s reputation, from Paula Jones and his escapades in Arkansas as well as the Arkansas mafia, until Lewinski pulled out the blue dress did I consider him guilty beyond a doubt. America should be consistent and allow Herman Cain the same presumption of innocence and the burden of proof should be on the accuser, which should be fairly easy.
Herman Cain is going against some very powerful forces on both sides of the aisle although these tactics have the fingerprints of George Soros and the DNC. The two supposed women from the Chicago based Restaurant Ass may not even be attached to Cain since they sound like the usual post Anita Hill get rich quick for being offended by a man, lawsuit. If they were suing their boss or coworker Cain would be named as the CEO since they are going after the deepest pockets so they sue him for making a climate of sexual harassment we don’t know. At any rate these two are hardly credible as they had a history of this type of lawsuit and they were connected to the Chicago DNC.
The Gloria Allrat client who had the unbelievable story with absolutely no proof is even flimsier than the other two women. The fact she is connected to Axlerat makes he even more of a likely setup and without any sort of proof or at least the hotel record where she got an upgraded room from Cain there is no chance of belief as well as never following up with evidence she was bothered at the time. These are the same exact tactics which were used against Sarah Palin and is why she is not running. Their tactics are to throw enough mud at the wall and see what will stick to either destroy you or poison the well so bad people won’t lower themselves to voting for you.
As for this latest 16 year affair this woman had should be simple to verify’ barring that; he must be given the presumption of innocence. Running for President is too big to presume guilt as that is what this tactic is based on. She should have a list of hotels they shacked up in and witnesses who saw them together at the times. She should be able to have lists of friends she had told or at least waiters and restaurant people who saw them together over this long expanse of time. How many people even have that long of an affair without their wives and families figuring it out and divorcing them?
She has a number of texts and phone calls, let’s see them. If they are sexual in nature than that would prove his guilt or were they something else? Was it as he said, she was a longtime friend who they helped out on occasion and she was stabbing him in the back? Were all of those calls and texts over the past month threats and blackmail since she was in a desperate situation and she saw this as a meal ticket to take care of her financial situation? Was she able to tap into the Soros slime machine and have her bills paid if she was willing to make baseless charges against Herman Cain? These questions need to be answered and make more sense than anything she is saying. The presumption of innocence is required to get to the truth before we lynch somebody.
If Herman Cain is guilty of the affair then he needs to quit the race right now, if he is not than he needs to be supported by all Americans. We have had enough of this politics of personal destruction where you take a good person like Justice Thomas or Sarah Palin and destroy them with fabricated charges so they will be dismissed as a cook or a nut. Herman Cain is going against those same forces and they all believe that the ends justify their means. They have no remorse that they destroy peoples’ lives since it furthers their communist agenda and these people pose a threat to that agenda. These forces will use people like these women and pay them to say whatever they want to destroy the candidate’s credibility so they can win an election. These are the same lies which were told about Palin and were never proven and always disproven over time but the damage had been done to the point of destroying her entire family. We are very likely seeing this again.
The presumption of innocence is the most basic of American rights. As Conservatives we need to support and protect that right with everything we have. It is who we are and what is required. When the other side will claim Palin was guilty of the Giffords shooting we need to hold strong and no longer be swayed by questionable charges and attacks. We need to keep our eye on the ball and realize there are unimaginable forces at work here and people like Herman Cain are a huge threat to those forces. He could cost those forces trillions and the destruction of entire communist agenda if he were to win the Presidency so he must be destroyed. Then after he is gone they will go after the next one with the same slimy tactics. Why? Because these Chicago tactics obviously work in this tabloid society and they own the tabloids.
It is time to make these tactics backfire and make them prove their charges. Until that point we are simply watching the lynching of another Conservative Black man by the same people who have been lynching Black Republicans for the past 150 years. If you go look into the history of the Klan you will find lynching was brought to the south by the Democrats who lost the war and began lynching as a tool to keep Blacks from voting. You will find that many of those lynched had just voted and the only Party that would take them was the Republican Party so the Klan lynched them as a warning to stop voting for the Republican Party. This is just another high tech lynching and the DNC going back to their racist roots. Let’s see the proof this woman has and until then Cain is to be believed 100%, she is simply being used as the rope for their only path to victory. A White woman sleeping with a Black man, how Jim Crow. Kinda looks like Democrat George Wallace and all his attack dogs standing in the doorway of the White House.
Pray for Cain
Welcome to the United Soviet States of America..where the Pravda State Media “vet” the candidates to the pleasure and needs of the RinoCrat UniParty.
This “election” will be a non-election...featuring the state approved “candidates”-whose only distinction is whether they are black or white.
enough braying
If Herman Cain does not win the nomination, does he not have legal recourse against his accusers and the media institutions that continuously reported these allegations without evidence???
The very fact that they are trying to eliminate Cain says that he is the enemy of state-controlled media.
State-controlled media is my enemy, too.
The enemy of my enemy is my candidate.
Only the gullible fans of Cain believe that he is guilty.
The non-gullible fans of Cain believe that he is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
Cain has experienced the hardships of poverty. He has shown he has a heart for the "down and outs" and has been blessed with the means to help others.
MSM does not understand Christian resoprocity. Christians do not give up on people. Some people are life-time projects.
I have to ask the question, "If you are at the computer or by your cell phone late at night and someone e-mails or texts you a message, do you check the time before you respond?" If I was awake I would answer a message ASAP.
There is the issue of an attempted high tech lynching ala Clarence Thomas. There is the issue of whether or not this claim of a 13 year affair is as baseless as all the other harrassment issues or perhaps more legit.
And then there is the issue of how his staff has handled it, which is almost a unanimous epic fail.
And I think item B is the one that’s really hurting him the most.
Might as well string him up without a trial or any evidence, or any cross examination of the witness(es) against him.
I'm sick and tired of the old adage, “where there's smoke there has to be fire.” Not so.
Not one of these skanks can supply any hard evidence of any affairs or wrong doing by Herman Cain, and their timing is nothing rank politics of the lowest schungiest level.
You don't have to be a Cain supporter to see what's going on here, but you do have to be fair minded.
Pray for this good man and his family.
I have the called the man on his cell at 6 am on a Saturday morning, and he answered...and I wasn’t calling because I needed help. I wasn’t calling to set up a meeting, or responding to a call or email.
I was calling just to chat....
And he has NEVER signed any of my books!
But he did give me a copy of his CD of him singing Gospel songs....Still have it...need to get him to sign it!!!!
“MSM does not understand Christian resoprocity....”
sure they do. They perceive it to be weakness. At the time, the MSM perceived Christ as weak and gullible.
Bless you, bray; you are a FR treasure.
I am praying for Cain. Any conservative that enjoys or joins in the lynching of Cain will regret it. You can’t join forces w the enemy when it suits you and then hope they won’t stab you in the back when your turn comes. What they are doing to Cain is a picnic at the beach compared to what they will do to the nominee, be it Cain or someone else. Fight them now or live to regret it.
That is incredibly well-said!
That is awesome! Can you blow it up so we can read the words better?
Pray for Cain
So you really don’t care about the substance of the charge only the style that it is handled. Kinda one of those symbolism over substance guys.
How exactly do you handle that situation when the entire world is watching? You are the perfect example of my post and the reason they use those tactics.
Pray for Cain
>> So you really don’t care about the substance of the charge only the style that it is handled. Kinda one of those symbolism over substance guys. >>
What a childish and unnecessary little pout that was. Wow.
I do care about the substance of the charges. That is a valid discussion. That is one that is on going. It is one I have entered and will continue to do so.
But you way missed the point. My problem with this article (and several others that have been run lately) is NOT STYLE. It is that they are based on faulty assumptions and therefore make an argument from a flawed template.
That is far more than style. That is also a valid argument. I know that you and a lot of folks look for every single article ever to be a jumping off point for a pure candidate debate per se.
But I am not obsessed with candidates at every second. I like to actually read the articles and then debate the article’s ideas, and the idea that Newt’s supporters are all ignorant of and dismissive of his flaws is simply a stupid idea. And that was the total intent of my point. Nothing more, nothing less.
Nobody’s pouting so take that childish argument back to whatever website you normally post on. I seriously doubt you are a Newt supporter, my guess would be far more liberal than that.
C-Right sounds more like a cliche than a name so go disrupt another thread where people believe who you are. Tell your handlers you really got us.
Pray for Cain
Well stated, Bray.
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