Posted on 11/30/2011 6:25:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
This is a critical step over the ‘stuck on stupid’ line to the traitorous and treasonous line by our Senate this week. They voted for our Military to detain American citizens as long as they want to, without charges, representation or trial……just because they are suspected of being a terrorist. Americans could be gathered up and placed at GITMO for a ‘mystery’ terrorist reason decided by the military front and directed by Obama or any other power hungry President. It is all kosher and approved by the Senate and President now. Naturally, Obama is threatening a veto, of course that hits the airwaves to soften this traitorous ruling against the American people.
This betrayal by the Senate only gives a US citizen just one hearing by the military where they can then be locked up for life without charge. How is that anything like America, our Constitution or freedom as we know it?
If a person is a real suspect or potential terrorist, authorities need to have some evidence, probable cause and then charges, not just a vague accusation, one hearing then throw them into a dungeon and toss the key into the ocean.
Perhaps, the way we are going we should study the Government structure of former Communist Russia and see if we might find some improvements for our collapsing system. If not that, maybe we should all form some ‘American Camp’ unions so we could have representation as to how our internment rooms might look at the various camps we are assigned to. Can we wear certain colors in our uniforms, have special meals and visit our dogs on the weekends? Can I have bug spray for my bunk…assuming I have one?(continued)
(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...
If only we punished tyrants like we used to.
Apparently so. I wonder what happened to Posse Comitatus?
Gone now Tom and it looks like you and I will be too if we say too much.
Service members actually are now taught that it is the name of a militia group...Really, I've seen it myself.
From Wiwkipedia...
On September 26, 2006, President Bush urged Congress to consider revising federal laws so that U.S. armed forces could restore public order and enforce laws in the aftermath of a natural disaster, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition.
These changes were included in the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007 (H.R. 5122), which was signed into law on October 17, 2006.[8]
Section 1076 is titled "Use of the Armed Forces in major public emergencies." It provided that:
The President may employ the armed forces... to... restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition... the President determines that... domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order... or [to] suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such... a condition... so hinders the execution of the laws... that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law... or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.[9]
In 2008, changes in the Insurrection Act of 1807 were repealed in their entirety, reverting to the previous wording of the Insurrection Act[10] that in its original form was written to limit Presidential power as much as possible in the event of insurrection, rebellion, or lawlessness."
There was another thread on this a day or so ago (which I can’t find now) that analyzed the bill. This author is (technically) not correct. The bill specifically excludes US citizens. However, it does extend the WOT battlespace to the US. Other legislation no doubt allows for US citizen detainment in a WOT battle area, so the net result is probably the same.
If only we punished tyrants like we used to.
Methinks what you wish for may come true...
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This is incorrect. You need to distinguish mandatory (shall) language from precatory (may) language. The relevant portion of the bill states as follows:
SEC. 1032. REQUIREMENT FOR MILITARY CUSTODY.
(a) Custody Pending Disposition Under Law of War-
(1) IN GENERAL- Except as provided in paragraph (4), the Armed Forces of the United States shall hold a person described in paragraph (2) who is captured in the course of hostilities authorized by the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40) in military custody pending disposition under the law of war.
. . . .
(b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens-
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.
As an attorney, I assure you that words have meaning. You can’t take everything at face value, especially with these sleazebag politicians.
It would be apparent that they are expecting SHTF very soon, and will call anyone not in with the new shape things “terrorists”.
Most of the GOPNdirtbags voted for this.
I just saw Lying Mcshame on Greta trying to tell us how innocent this new legislation will be. Even his explanation left no doubt that US citizens can be picked up and held indefinitely if they are found to be affiliated with Al Queda. At some point soon my friends we will all be Al Queda. Greta to her credit was not buyin it.
Does anyone have a link to this legislation? I’d like to read it for myself.
Just google armed forces defense bill
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