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Consensus breaking out: Not Newt
Washington Post ^ | December 4, 2011 | Jennifer Rubin

Posted on 12/04/2011 6:04:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

On Friday, I suggested that Republicans “could pull a name out of a hat and find a more consistent and personally stable conservative” than Newt Gingrich. Many smart conservatives seem to agree. (VictorDavisHanson points out that with Gingrich as the nominee the GOP would forfeit the “crony capitalism” issue; No one has been a bigger crony than he.)

The latest and perhaps brightest warning flare to the right is sent up by GeorgeWill. There are too many delicious lines in his column from which to choose a favorite. (e.g.,“There is almost artistic vulgarity in Gingrich’s unrepented role as a hired larynx for interests profiting from such government follies as ethanol and cheap mortgages”; “Gingrich, who would have made a marvelous Marxist, believes everything is related to everything else and only he understands how.”) George patiently explains to those who think the conservative movement began with the Internet and is defined by those who can burnish the most withering rhetoric: “Conservatism inoculates against the hubristic volatility that Gingrich exemplifies.” Yes, Gingrich is what conservatism aims to save us from.

Now, George would choose TexasGov Rick Perry or Jon Huntsman. RameshPonnuru would take MittRomney. There is also RickSantorum to consider. Reasonable conservatives differ on the alternative, but other than sheer contrarianism and temporary amnesia it is hard (for those who want to maintain the ideological health of the conservative movement and win the WhiteHouse) to justify embracing Gingrich. That he is more “gregarious, upbeat” than he used to be is no reason to choose him as president or to declare he has turned over new leaf.

For those conservatives who are not systematically averting their eyes, Gingrich every day gives Republicans further reason to conclude there is no “New Newt,” only the same disorganized egomaniac who drove his House caucus to revolt.

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KEYWORDS: 2012; conservatism; gopprimary; notperryeither; rinos4romney; romneycare; rove4romney; tokyorove
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Will’s column was excellent, and definitely an entertaining read. Best work he’s done in a long time. And it prompted me to give Huntsman another look.


41 posted on 12/04/2011 6:27:12 AM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’d say the polls disagree with her assessment, not that I disagree that Newt is not the answer; clearly many seem to think he is much to my dismay. I’m certainly ready for a new Flavor of The Month, whether it be Santorum, Bachmann, Palin or some other.


42 posted on 12/04/2011 6:27:16 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Amazing. Stick to,trying to support your candidate than simply trying to roast others.


43 posted on 12/04/2011 6:27:19 AM PST by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Thank you !


44 posted on 12/04/2011 6:27:40 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Solson

The fact that there will be Americans who wake up this morning, read this piece of swill and say, “yeah, Mitt is the most conservative of the bunch” is testament to the lefts abililty to make the MSM look like Pravda on steroids.


45 posted on 12/04/2011 6:27:48 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Video: Ron Paul Ad Newt Gingrich Serial Hypocrisy
46 posted on 12/04/2011 6:27:59 AM PST by preacher (Communism has only killed 100 million people: Let's give it another chance!)
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To: Mr. K
Where were the news reports of “Consensus: Not Romney” when 75% of the people wanted someone else

Guess the easy answer is the Washington Post wants Romney - just like they wanted McCain - - well, up until the nomination. Then they went 100% for the Obama...

47 posted on 12/04/2011 6:28:08 AM PST by GOPJ (Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, Than a fatted calf with hatred - Proverbs 15)
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To: BunnySlippers

And BTW, Gingrich is polling ahead of Obama in the latest polling.


48 posted on 12/04/2011 6:28:08 AM PST by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is just like the consensus on the science of global warming...


49 posted on 12/04/2011 6:28:28 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Huck

The same Huntsman that told us all we are dullards for not supporting the “science” of global warming? No thanks.


50 posted on 12/04/2011 6:29:05 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: Solson

Got it. But I’m not electing a “good debater”. See where that got Liberals with Obama.

I want a Conservative who can win. People hate Newt. Even Conservatives. But more importantly, independents and swing voters.

I don’t want 4 more years of O. It’ll kill us.


51 posted on 12/04/2011 6:29:09 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry would be fine by me, but please don’t get caught up in the same trash as the Perry-bashers have. Until we have it whittled down some more, any smears on anyone but Mitt will further tarnish whoever ends up on top.


52 posted on 12/04/2011 6:29:38 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: BunnySlippers

The polling doesn’t support your premise. At all. Gingrich is polling quite well. And winning.


53 posted on 12/04/2011 6:30:14 AM PST by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Solson

At time last election, Giuliani was highest polled, Fred Thompson second.

There is a lesson there.

I understand your concern, we are on the same side. Just keep your mind open to Perry. I can ask no more.


54 posted on 12/04/2011 6:31:05 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: heiss
I don't understand all the Newt hoopla.

He is a fast-talking used-car salesman type who is trying to sell a bill of goods.

He was conservative when he was in Congress. After he resigned his speaker-ship and basically walked out on his House seat, he became the quintessential Washington insider. He even set up business on K-Street, which is known for influence-peddling.

If the Republicans are looking for someone outside of Washignton beltway, Gingrich is NOT that person.

It will be interesting to see how his polling numbers are after the MSM and other candidates begin scrutinizing him and his history.

55 posted on 12/04/2011 6:31:56 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’d prefer Perry to Newt, but nothing is helping Perry. Looks to me like no one is interested in him any more.

But I’m months away from a chance to vote, so we’ll see. But the idea that Santorum is about to take off (or Huntsman) is just damn silly.


56 posted on 12/04/2011 6:32:03 AM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: o2bfree
Victor Davis Hanson is on the same page as the Liberals, Homosexuals, Black Nationalists, and Socialists. They all want Romney to be the nominee. Here's what this dumass Victor Davis Hanson has said about Romney in the Neo Con rag otherwise known as the National Review: Nominating Mitt Romney is sort of like taking Grandma’s castor oil. Republicans are dreading the thought of downing their unpleasant-tasting medicine but worry that sooner or later they will have to. By any logical political calculus, the former Massachusetts governor is an ideal presidential candidate. Ramrod straight, fit, and well-educated, he knows all sorts of facts and figures and comes across like a cinematic chief executive. ... ... To beat an ever-more-vulnerable Obama, Republicans keep coming back to someone who resembles a Romney, with strengths in just those areas where Obama is so demonstrably weak: prior executive experience as a governor, success in and intimacy with the private sector, a past fully vetted, and an unambiguous belief in the exceptional history and future of the United States.
57 posted on 12/04/2011 6:32:03 AM PST by o2bfree
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To: EDINVA

WOW - I had no idea he had marital missteps;)

‘Will’ look into it.

Perhaps the new Mrs. Will is a Callista home-wrecker! LOL!


58 posted on 12/04/2011 6:33:00 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newter the Democrats and newtralize the RINOS - the Senate, House & WHouse)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So last time round we had McInsane, (I heart)Huckabee, and the Mittster.

This time round we have Perry, Newt and (wait for it) the Mittser again.

Great.


59 posted on 12/04/2011 6:35:29 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: ez

I don’t know how old you are, so maybe you don’t recall the 90s when Newt had his 15 minutes of fame. Screwed us all with his Contract with America. It would a wonderful thing, but once Newt got into power as the speaker, his ego got the best of him. He got welfare reform, but you can see that didn’t last. He went down quickly, as anyone could see it was all show and little substance. Since then, I started to read Newt again and thought, okay, maybe this guy is serious this time. I should’ve known better. After he came out with his American values campaign, he supported Dede Scozzafava, made the ad with Pelosi, and several other things. I’d take Romney over Newt any day of the week. I’d prefer Bachmann, Santorum, or Perry, but Romney is MUCH better than Newt. If Newt gets it, he won’t necessarily beat Obama in a debate. Obama can throw Newt’s record at him, one much like his own of big government, lobbying, support of unions, etc., and Newt would have to explain himself. Defend himself, that is. A lot of conservatives who have tuned out the stuff about him now would be trapped. All they see is his powerful debate performances, but that is not how Newt will lead. He’ll go back to the cronyism, the things to shore up power, etc. THAT IS THE REAL NEWT! People need to really see that side of him. Forget the debates. Reagan didn’t do well against Carter, but still won in a landslide because of the ideas he offered. Any of our conservative candidates would still look good next to the known entity of Obama now. We need to move past these debates as being the determining factor. That is hubris, and we might pay a big price for thinking one needs to best The One in a debate. NONSENSE!


60 posted on 12/04/2011 6:35:29 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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