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Senator Levin: It was Obama who required Indefinite Detainment Bill INCLUDE U.S. Citizens
sherriequestioningall ^ | December 11, 2011

Posted on 12/13/2011 8:52:56 AM PST by opentalk

Well now we know, for those who have been holding out “hope” that Obama will veto the 1031 Indefinite Detainment Bill against holding U.S. Citizens without rights to a trial or lawyer or charges for the rest of their lives…. It was Obama who required the bill have the language of U.S. Citizens being held without rights in the bill! The only reason he would veto it, is because it does not give him the absolute power as he wants!

...Here is Senator Levin on the floor of the Senate revealing it was Obama himself who Demanded U.S. Citizens be part of the Indefinite Detainment Bill!

(Excerpt) Read more at sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 1031; banlist; citizensrights; constitution; defensebill; detainment; detainmentbill; detention; detentionbill; dueprocess; mccain; possecomitatus; senate; wot
Video (CSPAN) at link.
1 posted on 12/13/2011 8:53:03 AM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

It’s a post-9/11 world.


2 posted on 12/13/2011 8:54:31 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: opentalk

So—How many Republicans support this?


3 posted on 12/13/2011 9:01:24 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Once they've called you a racist, you've got nothing to lose.)
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To: opentalk
video link

From Senator Levin, there was language in the bill to exempt citizens. Obama asked for it to be removed, and they did.

4 posted on 12/13/2011 9:02:14 AM PST by opentalk
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To: Wolfie

Can Leaky Carl Levin be verified by an independent source?
Oh this sounds like Barry Ol, Divide and Conquer Maxist Socialist Muslim Barry Soetoro Community Organizing again.
But can this be verified?


5 posted on 12/13/2011 9:03:07 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: opentalk

When are the re-education camps going to be built? Attendance will be mandatory for all conservatives, once Obama suspends the elections.


6 posted on 12/13/2011 9:11:21 AM PST by Signalman
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To: opentalk

Why in the he** did the house vote for this POS bill? What the he** is wrong with them? Either this bill isn’t as bad as it is being made out to be or the GOP once again sold the voters down the river.


7 posted on 12/13/2011 9:17:47 AM PST by calex59
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To: opentalk

Anything come out of the House on this? So far, only the Senate bill is being talked about.


8 posted on 12/13/2011 9:17:55 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: StonyBurk
Linsay Graham has said the same thing, in the congressional record debate

These comments were from Sen. Linsay Graham regarding the Bill

...This bill is a very sound, balanced work product, and I will stand by it, I will fight for it, and I respect those who may disagree. But why did we take out the language Senator Levin wanted me to put in about an American citizen could not be held indefinitely if caught in the homeland? The administration asked us to do that. Why did they ask us to do that? It makes perfect sense. If American citizens have joined the enemy and we captured them at home, we want to make sure we know what they are up to, and we do not want to be required, under our law, to turn them over to a criminal court, where you have to provide them a lawyer at an arbitrary point in time. So the administration was probably right to take this out.(page 45)

9 posted on 12/13/2011 9:21:41 AM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

“Obama asked for it to be removed, and they did.”

Was there any outrage? Any pushback whatsoever? It doesn’t seem like it.

This is why simply changing the POTUS is not enough - not by a long shot. If we had a Congress who actually cared about American citizens and respected the Constitution, obams’s marxist ways would never see the light of day.


10 posted on 12/13/2011 9:25:19 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Stop feeding the beast; if they don't say "Merry Christmas", don't buy.)
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To: Signalman

Will my cell have a window? Will I have to share it with someone else?


11 posted on 12/13/2011 9:29:57 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: MichaelCorleone

I’d be just fine with Obama playing president if we had a house and senate willing to crush every unconstitutional thing he does.

Unfortunately every president seems to adopt further dictatorial powers of the president before him.

Give me a president like George Washington who did as little as possible.


12 posted on 12/13/2011 9:32:26 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
The House passed its version in May. I don't know if their version had language to protect citizens. The MSM is not covering this (imo). The Senate bill must now be reconciled with the House-passed version (H.R.1540).

Senate version passed 93 o 7 at the end of November.

13 posted on 12/13/2011 9:35:07 AM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk
Obama asked for it to be removed, and they did.

Who is 'they'?

14 posted on 12/13/2011 9:36:52 AM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: opentalk

If Obama signs this, does it mean we can hold him indefinitely and without the benefit of counsel, for aiding terrorists abroad?


15 posted on 12/13/2011 9:39:41 AM PST by liberalh8ter
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To: opentalk
From related article

Does the Indefinite Detention Bill Foretell Future?

...It would be one thing if the military was clamoring for the authority to become the nation’s jailer. But to the contrary: Defense Secretary Leon Panetta opposes the maneuver. So does CIA Director David Petraeus, who usually commands deference from senators in both parties.

Pretty much every security official has lined up against the Senate detention provisions, from Director of National Intelligence James Clapper to FBI Director Robert Mueller, who worry that they’ll get in the way of FBI investigations of domestic terrorists.

16 posted on 12/13/2011 9:42:29 AM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk
Per Lindsay Graham:
If American citizens have joined the enemy and we captured them at home, we want to make sure we know what they are up to, and we do not want to be required, under our law, to turn them over to a criminal court... So the administration was probably right to take this out.

Lindsay, do you realize:

1. A marxist dictator may have a different definiton of "enemy" than you?

2. If that dictator has already "captured them at home" he doesn't have to "make sure (he) know(s) what they are up to".

3. Being "probably right" does not warrant violating the U.S. Constitution.

17 posted on 12/13/2011 9:47:32 AM PST by frog in a pot (I am not a birther...I am an NBCer)
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To: Signalman

I agree with your prognostication.


18 posted on 12/13/2011 9:48:52 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: opentalk

Thanks for the update....I wondered how this could make it past the house and now I know...figures Zero and the commies are behind this effort.


19 posted on 12/13/2011 9:54:30 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Hoodat
Its McCain's and Levin bill. McCain has pushed back from changing language. Graham is backing current bill.

Rand Paul has been sounding alarms, trying to get language that protects citizens.

20 posted on 12/13/2011 9:55:27 AM PST by opentalk
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#


21 posted on 12/13/2011 10:01:39 AM PST by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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To: opentalk

whats the difference between ‘indefinite detainment’ and legalized kidnapping?

im fairly certain this is unConstitutional


22 posted on 12/13/2011 10:07:05 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: opentalk

This video is clear on its face.

obama needs to be impeached


23 posted on 12/13/2011 10:10:44 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: opentalk
Rand Paul has been sounding alarms, trying to get language that protects citizens.

There once was a time not long ago where the Constitution of the United States of America protected citizens from such imprisonment. The Republic is no longer recognizable.

24 posted on 12/13/2011 10:14:12 AM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: hal ogen

“”Will my cell have a window? Will I have to share it with someone else?””

You’ll have to share the cell but not the window!


25 posted on 12/13/2011 10:22:21 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Hoodat
McCain's campaign finance bill (McCain-Feingold) had to go all the way to Supreme court ..parts struck down as unconstitutional. He vocally backed Obama by-passing congress in Libyan war.

He is a globalist. People that want the Constitution followed, he calls Hobbits or isolationists. His bills should be picked apart.

26 posted on 12/13/2011 10:30:14 AM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

And when Zero starts issuing orders for his political enemies to be rounded up who does he think will step forward to do his bidding? This will be when he learns the meaning of the French phrase “coup d’etat.”

It is very possible.


27 posted on 12/13/2011 10:30:35 AM PST by Wordkraft
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To: Hoodat

“Who is ‘they’?”

Since it passed 93-7 I would say that “they” would be the treasonus rat-bastards in the Senate.


28 posted on 12/13/2011 10:33:32 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE (Millions of government bureaucrats are gang raping and choking the life out of America.)
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To: opentalk

Mr.Graham is like a light switch —or a stopped watch— He is
right at least twice a day— and when he is on subject he can
illuminate. Problem is he appears to be wrong in his support and opinion at least as much a she is right.


29 posted on 12/13/2011 10:50:07 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: opentalk

Thank you


30 posted on 12/13/2011 11:02:51 AM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Thank You Rush

Ouch!


31 posted on 12/13/2011 12:00:46 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: opentalk

Vote em all out!


32 posted on 12/13/2011 3:30:34 PM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Forty-Niner

nah, it’s time to flex a little 2nd amendment rights on one or two of them and they will think twice before passing this.


33 posted on 12/14/2011 9:24:35 AM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: longfellow

“nah, it’s time to flex a little 2nd amendment rights on one or two of them and they will think twice before passing this.”

The solution to most of our problems is twofold.....

Destroy the poliitical class at the ballot box. (Includes staffers.)

Pursue corruption and enforce laws ruthlessly, with harsh penalities for any public officials so caught.....


34 posted on 12/14/2011 10:50:11 AM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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