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Santorum and the Evangelical Civil War in Iowa
Big Government ^ | December 30, 2011 | Charles C. Johnson

Posted on 12/30/2011 1:36:24 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think that Perry would be leading now had he not a had a few disastrous debates. If he’s still standing against Milt in Pa, I’d vote for him. Bob


21 posted on 12/30/2011 2:11:02 PM PST by alstewartfan ("And your oarsman stands with his knife in hand, and his eyes spell 'Mutiny'" Al Stewart)
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To: wolfman23601
Santorum and Bachmann should drop out now.

Why? He is the only one gaining traction against Mittens and Paul right now. If anyone should reevaluate their value in this race is Bachmann. She is falling apart. Perry isn't looking so hot now and he is flush with cash.

22 posted on 12/30/2011 2:16:14 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think that Rick Santorum is the most genuinely Christian of the whole bunch.

As for not moving the Bridge to Nowhere funds to NOLA, NOLA got larger federal subsidies than any other catastrophe I can think of, even though the damage was largely their fault.

And this: “Santorum was anything but a fiscal conservative, as Erick Erickson points out over at Red State. . . . He supported steel tariffs in Pennsylvania. . . .”

Well, I happen to think that if we had retained some of our tariffs—not high ones, but moderate—we wouldn’t have lost so damned many jobs overseas, and we wouldn’t be so dependent on foreign countries for vital products and supplies, including military supplies. It’s not as if it’s really free trade, since it is biased against us in almost every respect.

One-world “free” trade biased against us is conservative? Who knew?


23 posted on 12/30/2011 2:19:10 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Venturer

Actually, the numbers that will be reported from the Iowa caucuses will be from a non-binding straw vote. No national delegates to the GOP convention will be selected by the caucuses either.

Caucuses select delegates to the later 99 county conventions, and to the state convention, and the caucuses begin the work of compiling a party platform.


24 posted on 12/30/2011 2:19:27 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry might drop out if he lands 5th, 6th or 7th.


25 posted on 12/30/2011 2:19:44 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: Lazlo in PA

I just watched a segment on Fox , “Perry quietly inching up in the Iowa Polls.” He’s the one to watch to finish in the top three, IMO, and he has the money and the organization to continue in the race.


26 posted on 12/30/2011 2:22:24 PM PST by baysider
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Evangelicals are in a civil war in Iowa. If they could unite behind a candidate, they could defeat Mitt Romney and Ron Paul in the Iowa caucuses, but they can’t.


It’s not “evangelicals” who are in this boat of division; it is conservatives. What else is new?


27 posted on 12/30/2011 2:23:40 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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..It’s not “evangelicals” who are in this boat of division; it is conservatives. What else is new?

Bump

28 posted on 12/30/2011 2:28:08 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: jjotto

I believe we agree, the results are irrelevant, and ar an embarrassment to the State. Or they should be embarrassed by this mess.


29 posted on 12/30/2011 2:29:52 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

What mess? It’s just Iowa neighbors having a coffee klatch. Not Iowa’s fault that the rest of the country goes nuts.


30 posted on 12/30/2011 2:36:53 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Santorum is a big mistake. The man does not understand freedom as well as he understands morality. Morality can be used as a sharp spear against the constitution...what’s left of it, anyway.

It’s like Sarah Palin getting angry that the Supremes overturned a state law which banned protests at military funerals as hate speech. She was right that protesting a funeral is hate speech; but she did not grasp that if the state could squash hate speech she rejects, socialists would run a bull dozer through that power and squash most of Palin’s Christian/moral speech, which they classify as hate.

Conservatives have to be able to think like lawyers or excellent chess players when seeking power and solutions.


31 posted on 12/30/2011 2:36:53 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Bottom line is we have FOUR good conservatives (Newt, Perry, Michele, Santorum) splitting the votes amongst themselves versus one liberal (Willard) and one nutjob (Paul).


32 posted on 12/30/2011 2:37:06 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Bolton, Santorum, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: alstewartfan
No Huckster, we can’t stand you!

Yeh, if it wasn't for you, Willard would have won the nomination last time thus fulfilling the white horse prophecy!!!! Shame on you for winning Iowa./s

33 posted on 12/30/2011 2:41:51 PM PST by Tramonto (Draft Palin)
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To: wolfman23601
>> Santorum and Bachmann should drop out now. <<

Yes. Because we need to ensure all GOP voters in this country have only backstabbing RINOs to pick from before the primaries even start.

34 posted on 12/30/2011 2:42:55 PM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: alstewartfan

I think Huck was asking Iowans if they missed him. (No doubt, he’d be at a Hucka-35% now as before MINIMUM and demolishing the field again thanks to Iowan Conservatives and Evangelicals - Smart folks!)

You from Iowa? One of the Romney or McCain counties? Just asking..(I worked in all 99 in ‘07-’08.)


35 posted on 12/30/2011 2:45:36 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Bolton, Santorum, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: Tramonto

LOL!

Zing.


36 posted on 12/30/2011 2:48:04 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Bolton, Santorum, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The question becomes who will she endorse.

I'm among those who've wondered aloud why Bachmann hasn't attacked Romney the way she has all the conservatives. My sense is that she's been running to be Romney's VP.

I'm guessing she'll endorse Romney. Her "excuse" to her conservative supporters will be that "Mitt is most likely to win." or some other such nonsense.

I'm officially on record now saying that a vote for Bachmann is a wasted vote. I wish Perry and Santorum and Gingrich weren't splitting the vote in Iowa, but they are. Neither the Perry or Gingrich camp seem to believe they'll do better than 3-5 place.

We should deny Iowa to Romney and push Santorum. Iowans must know that a vote for Paul doesn't say "protest". It says "naive".

37 posted on 12/30/2011 2:51:10 PM PST by xzins (Pray for Our Troops Remaining in Afghanistan, now that Iran Can Focus on Injuring Only Them)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
GINGRICH (68) – U.S. House of Representatives [GA] - 20 years [Speaker 1995-99]

Ding ding ding ding -My choice! :)

Why? FOUR straight balanced budgets (remember those?), welfare reform, 11 million NEW jobs, and about 4% (beats 8-9% everyday!) unemployment under Speaker Newt.

38 posted on 12/30/2011 2:57:17 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Bolton, Santorum, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: Blackyce

Social conservatives had Bachmann and Santorum, why did Perry have to show up?


39 posted on 12/30/2011 3:23:33 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: alstewartfan

Perry also speaks in simple sound bites, you can see that he is being spoon fed these bubba bait lines.


40 posted on 12/30/2011 3:26:55 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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