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No BCS National Championship Game This Year
town hall ^ | 1/09/12 | reasonmclucus

Posted on 01/09/2012 1:50:51 PM PST by kathsua

For the first time since the BCS held its first "national championship" game after the 1998 season, there won't be any bowl game that can realistically be portrayed as a "national championship" game.

This year's game can only be considered as giving the University of Alabama an opportunity to avenge its loss against Louisiana State University(LSU). The two schools can only play for the championship of the western division of the Southeast Conference(SEC). Alabama cannot even claim the championship of the SEC from a victory because that would require Alabama to defeat eastern division champion , the University of Georgia.

LSU cannot prove it deserves a national championship by defeating a school it has already defeated, particularly a school that mostly defeated the same schools that LSU defeated. LSU needs to defeat the champion of another conference in the championship game to prove it is the best team in the country

An Alabama victory would indicate the two schools are equal rather than that Alabama is the best because they would each have one victory over the other. A third game would be necessary to prove Alabama was the better team. In those sports in which the champion must win multiple games against the other team, the champion must win a majority of the games.

The SEC will be the big loser in the game because it will lose its undefeated record in the game regardless of which team wins. Alabama and LSU are both undefeated in the so-called championship game. One of them will lose that status.

The NCAA does allow a conference runner up to play the conference champion for the national basketball championship, but only after the challenger has defeated the other teams in its bracket to get into the championship game.

The NFL allows the runner up in a division to play the division winner in a conference championship but only after the runner up has defeated two other teams. Two teams in the same division cannot play each other in the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl participants must be from different conferences.

Those who suffer from the delusion that a computer or sports writers, etc can choose the best two teams ignore the fact that it isn't unusual for teams rated by writers or computers to lose to teams that are rated lower.

It's time for people to realize that the claim that a BCS bowl game is for a national championship is just a public relations gimmick. The only valid way to determine a national football champion is for teams to earn their way into a championship game by defeating other teams that aspire to be the national champion.

Determining a legitimate NCAA major college football champion wouldn't necessarily require extending the college football season longer than it is now with the phony BCS championship game. There would need to be a way to get the number of teams playing for the championship down to 8 for a 3-round tournament which could include some of the existing bowl games.

With the ongoing conference changes, the number of conferences could change in the next few years. Champions from smaller conferences could play qualifying games after the end of the season, possibly the same weekend some of the large conferences have their championship games. The extra game would provide money for the schools and their conferences.

The first round of the tournament could come just before Christmas or be part of the New Year's day bowl games. Having the first round on New Year's would be especially attractive for the Big 10 and Pac 12 because it would allow their champions to play in the Rose Bowl and still participate in a championship tournament.

The college bowl games aren't nearly as important as they used to be. Most of them are on cable because they don't attract sufficient advertising to be worth a bidding war among the broadcast networks like there is for the Super Bowl.

A true championship tournament could be as popular as the NCAA basketball tournament is. At the very least the schools participating in the tournament would make money for themselves and their conferences.


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To: kathsua

Roll Tide


21 posted on 01/09/2012 2:15:58 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: dfwgator

WAAAARRRRRRR EAGLE!! HEY!!!


22 posted on 01/09/2012 2:17:04 PM PST by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: bray
They need to take the top 8 conference champions and find the real champion.

With the great disparity in strength of the various conferences around the US, that would be a far worse method of selection than we have now.

23 posted on 01/09/2012 2:17:17 PM PST by Will88
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To: The Sons of Liberty
If Bama beats LSU tonight, then what? Since LSU already beat Bama, each could claim the BCS Championship, since each would only have one loss - to each other.

That's like saying if the Patriots beat the Giants in the Super Bowl, the Giants could also claim the Super Bowl, because they beat the Patriots in the regular season.

24 posted on 01/09/2012 2:17:26 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Responsibility2nd

This gets the stupidest article today award IMHO. so in other words the Bowl Game tonight is a farce and waste of time?

Clearly, these are the best two teams out there. I expect that LSU will win again, but if they don’t then you’ll have to look at the game itself, and then go from there.

Over all, it has the potential of being a nail biter.


25 posted on 01/09/2012 2:17:26 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: dfwgator

And we know from sports leagues that have Playoffs and Tournaments that the 2 top seeds always make it to championship game. Give me break, let the kids settle it on the field through a 4 or 8 team playoff.


26 posted on 01/09/2012 2:18:12 PM PST by JohnKinAK
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To: kathsua
There are currently about 120 Division I teams. They should be split into four super-conferences. Each super-conference should be further split into four divisions.

At the end of the regular season each super-conference should have the leaders of each of the divisions compete in a four team playoff to determine the super-conference champion.

After that the super-conference champions can have a four team playoff to determine the national champion.

Bowl games can be played around the same time as the super-conference and national playoffs among the teams with better records and/or higher popularity.

The team that wins the national championship could play as many as four more games as the worst teams that don't get into any playoffs or bowl games.

Because of this there may be some profit sharing recommended within super-conferences, or throughout the NCAA.

What do you think?

27 posted on 01/09/2012 2:19:13 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: The Sons of Liberty

And here’s a little more ammo for your point. LSU was number two and beat the number one team. If Alabama wins it will be the number two team beating the number one team....again.


28 posted on 01/09/2012 2:19:42 PM PST by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a second party)
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To: JohnKinAK

The more playoff rounds you have, the more injuries will play a role.


29 posted on 01/09/2012 2:19:42 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Terry Mross

Seems like two always beats one.


30 posted on 01/09/2012 2:20:26 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

A 4 team playoff system is the next logical step to getting to a full blown playoff system.

I just find it ironic that the same schools that nixed the SEC’S proposal for a 4 team playoff just a few years ago are the same ones now complaining about the SEC dominating the BCS championship game.


31 posted on 01/09/2012 2:21:26 PM PST by Brookhaven (Mitt Romney has been consistent since he changed his mind.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

If Bama wins, unless it’s a blowout, I expect to see some sort of split championship. Bama will win the BCS championship, but LSU will get voted #1 in the coaches poll.


32 posted on 01/09/2012 2:23:51 PM PST by Brookhaven (Mitt Romney has been consistent since he changed his mind.)
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To: pgkdan

The “rules” state that only two teams per conference can go to a BCS bowl. I really think they meant a conference could only have teams in two bowls. To me, Arkansas got screwed and they should have contested the stupid rule and how it was interpreted.

I also think Kansas State got screwed as did Baylor.


33 posted on 01/09/2012 2:24:52 PM PST by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a second party)
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To: Brookhaven
Bama will win the BCS championship, but LSU will get voted #1 in the coaches poll.

Will never happen.

34 posted on 01/09/2012 2:25:12 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: The Sons of Liberty
If Bama beats LSU tonight, then what? Since LSU already beat Bama, each could claim the BCS Championship, since each would only have one loss - to each other.

Do you make that same statement about the Super Bowl, and the NCAA tournament, where there could easily be cases where the winner had been previously defeated by the loser.

And what about AFC and NFC championship games where it is very common that the winner could have previously lost to the loser, and also in all the playoff games that led up to the championship game.

Hey, the Patriots have already beaten the Broncos this year, so why bother with the game scheduled for this Saturday?

35 posted on 01/09/2012 2:25:35 PM PST by Will88
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To: Terry Mross

They need to make The Cotton Bowl a BCS Bowl.


36 posted on 01/09/2012 2:26:05 PM PST by dfwgator
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37 posted on 01/09/2012 2:29:45 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: dfwgator

The more playoff rounds you have, the more injuries will play a role.

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Lame Excuse to keep the status quo. DIV 1 College Football is the only sports league I know of that doesn’t have a playoff system. It’s a joke and everybody knows it. The best part about spectator sports is watching an underdog. Major College football has eliminated the whole prospect of an underdog. I don’t watch any of the bowls; they are all meaningless exhibitions.


38 posted on 01/09/2012 2:31:57 PM PST by JohnKinAK
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To: JohnKinAK

I’m all on board with the 4-team playoff, beyond that, I don’t think will be worth it.


39 posted on 01/09/2012 2:34:19 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Anybody who doesn’t think the best two teams are playing tonight, is crazy.

I can't argue with that which is why I asked the question. I'm in Pascagoula, MS. tonight. The crowds around here are pretty evenly split. It's going to get rowdy.

Add to all that, it's a full moon!

40 posted on 01/09/2012 2:34:19 PM PST by houeto
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