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The E-Cat: Real or Surreal?
Forbes ^ | 1/08/2012 | Mark Gibbs

Posted on 01/13/2012 6:44:49 PM PST by dila813

In my last post I commented (once again) upon Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat cold fusion system and at the end of the posting I asked readers to vote on whether they thought (believed) that the device would perform as claimed (i.e. that it will be shown to produce significantly more energy than is required to start and maintain its operation). Over the following eight days more than 1,160 of you voted (an impressive 5% of readers!) and as of today, Sunday, January 8th, at 12:30PM PST, the results are:

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: coldfusion; ecat; lenr; rossi
Kevmo, notice this is properly categorized as "BLOG".

Blog Author asks: "But how do we account for those who so firmly believe the E-Cat is real? Is the basis of their belief that they just want the E-Cat to be real? Is it that they believe that the E-Cat works on unknown physics?"

I am going with they just want it to be real.

1 posted on 01/13/2012 6:44:52 PM PST by dila813
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To: dila813

It’s called “affirmative bias”. They just look for the things they think confirms how they want the results to turn out.


2 posted on 01/13/2012 6:49:04 PM PST by BipolarBob (I don't mind you shooting at me, Frank, but take it easy on the Bacardi!)
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To: dila813

Did they also believe in the Maharishi’s “Peace Field”?

Generate some power for less than cost, then I’ll take it seriously.

Until then, it stays in the basement with my Uncle Olaf’s perpetual motion machine.


3 posted on 01/13/2012 6:49:23 PM PST by sinanju (ua)
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To: dila813

A cat touched my e-fence surrounding the feed barn today. The horses spooked at the sound of the e-cat’s launch into the tin siding.


4 posted on 01/13/2012 6:55:56 PM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: dila813
I'm afarid this is going to be put on the shelf along with the previous cold fusion solutions.
5 posted on 01/13/2012 7:02:06 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: dila813
I'm afraid this is going to be put on the shelf along with the previous cold fusion solutions.
6 posted on 01/13/2012 7:02:17 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: dila813

I’m going to go with “I want to believe”.

Kinda like the weekly impending life ending global catastrophe but with a smiley face.


7 posted on 01/13/2012 7:17:15 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: BipolarBob
BiPolar, you don't have an average audience here. On the one hand you have a bunch of folks who do know something about the four fundamental forces ~ actually a lot of them know more than something about that, including how to read the math used to explain the processes.

On the other hand you have a bunch of folks who know a lot about the four fundamental forces, and they also know how to read the math used to explain the processes.

That's why the writer of the piece got a pret'near 50/50 split.

You have another, smaller group, who've read enough to know something but not everything (besides which there are things that are secret) and they don't feel they have enough knowledge of the four fundamental forces or of the experiments to come down one way or the other.

That third group are NOT SKEPTICS. Their knowledge of physics is probably way above that of the average individual.

I think you could get a quick shift one way or the other with the first two groups if you could prove one of two things ~ (1) That hot physics physicists are actually engaging in propaganda attacks against LENR to protect their government grants. Or (2) That LENR physics physicists and physical chemists have been engaging in propaganda attacks against hot physics in order to pick up their share of government grants.

Latest on FOX News this evening is that Cylindra is just one of SEVERAL multibillion dollar frauds.

The guys who went with LENR are going to feel lucky they weren't in on SOLAR or WIND ~ which are both turning out to be scams.

8 posted on 01/13/2012 7:17:49 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: dila813

A truly useless article


9 posted on 01/13/2012 7:23:15 PM PST by bigbob
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To: hinckley buzzard

Right beside the carburetors that were supposed to get you 200 mpg.


10 posted on 01/13/2012 7:44:36 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: dila813

Call me crazy, but I’d believe in pixie dust as a green source of cheap energy before I would believe that E-Cat is anything more than a Cheshire cat.


11 posted on 01/13/2012 7:57:09 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: Kevmo

ping


12 posted on 01/13/2012 8:38:54 PM PST by Bellflower
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To: Bellflower

I don’t find this article all that interesting. It’s basically more about Rossi than LENR. I’m a LENR fan, not necessarily a Rossi fan.

If you think it’s worthy of pinging the cold fusion ping list, I keep the list at the bottom of my home page on FR. Feel free.


13 posted on 01/14/2012 8:50:59 AM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: dila813

Funny how the author, Mark Gibbs has never mentioned Rossi’s criminal past in any of his blog posts.


14 posted on 01/14/2012 9:11:06 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kevmo
I don’t find this article all that interesting. It’s basically more about Rossi than LENR. I’m a LENR fan, not necessarily a Rossi fan.

LOL! That's why you copy and paste your Rossi spam every chance you get.

15 posted on 01/14/2012 9:55:49 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kevmo
If you think it’s worthy of pinging the cold fusion ping list, I keep the list at the bottom of my home page on FR. Feel free.

No, I agree not that interesting, just thought you might want to take a glance to keep up with whats out there on the subject in freeper land.

16 posted on 01/14/2012 11:05:20 PM PST by Bellflower
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To: Moonman62

This will be my standard post to moonboy that says you’re not worth trying to have reasonable discussion, also says “buzz off” & doesn’t leave crickets. But if it offends you to the point that you get it removed like my prior innocuous citation then I’ll have to come up with some other ‘ignore button’ post.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2800058/posts?page=55#55
To: Moonman62

This means I have nothing more to say to you about LENR. Bye.

55 posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 4:41:07 PM by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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17 posted on 01/15/2012 1:50:38 AM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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