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To: joe fonebone

Interesting...did not know that.

Is the idea of the Second Amendment really to let the citizens have the same weapons as the military?

I thought the “right to bear arms” just meant guns. So you’re saying it means citizens should legally be allowed to possess aircraft carriers and tactical nukes?


39 posted on 01/16/2012 12:43:16 PM PST by WPaCon
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To: WPaCon
Is the idea of the Second Amendment really to let the citizens have the same weapons as the military?

The idea was that an armed citizenry would be far stronger than any army the Government could pay for.

I suspect that it would take quite a while for the idea of nuclear weapons to take hold. It is rather hard to determine how they would handle it. They might well want the State governments to have and control them.

40 posted on 01/16/2012 12:52:35 PM PST by marktwain
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To: WPaCon
Is the idea of the Second Amendment really to let the citizens have the same weapons as the military?

I thought the “right to bear arms” just meant guns. So you’re saying it means citizens should legally be allowed to possess aircraft carriers and tactical nukes?

Yes indeed. In fact, the Constitution of the United States explicitly recognizes the private ownership of warships with the following from Article 1 - The Legislative Branch Section 8 - Powers of Congress:

The Congress shall have Power To ... declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

It goes on with more quaint and now discarded notions about how to run a country. Interesting reading, really.

43 posted on 01/16/2012 1:17:29 PM PST by Mycroft Holmes (Returned for regrooving...)
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To: WPaCon
I thought the “right to bear arms” just meant guns. So you’re saying it means citizens should legally be allowed to possess aircraft carriers and tactical nukes?

Why do leftists immediately go to the furthest extreme in any debate? There are a plethora of weapons between a rifle and a tactical nuke.

47 posted on 01/16/2012 2:29:12 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: WPaCon
So you’re saying it means citizens should legally be allowed to possess aircraft carriers and tactical nukes?

From the Declaration of Independence:

That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
The government's powers are delegated to it by its citizens.

That means that if I don't have the right (if I can afford it) to own and operate an aircraft carrier, I can't delegate that right to the government.

53 posted on 01/16/2012 6:46:37 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: WPaCon
"So you’re saying it means citizens should legally be allowed to possess aircraft carriers and tactical nukes?"
.... If you got 7 or 8 billion laying around, and have the cash to crew a carrier, why not? Now a tactical nuke, on the other hand, might require a little thought......
61 posted on 01/17/2012 4:28:34 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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