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Budget cuts push flight security back to pre-9/11 risks
BizPacReview.com ^ | February 20, 2012 | Michael Dorstewitz

Posted on 02/20/2012 5:46:21 AM PST by cap10mike

A United Airlines flight has taken off from New York without incident, and is now winging its way toward Los Angeles. Some passengers are readying their iPads and notebook computers in anticipation of an OK from the crew to power up their devices. Others are settling into their seats with a good book, or maybe a few winks of much-needed sleep. As the plane begins to level off at its assigned cruising altitude, the “Fasten Seat Belt” light is finally extinguished. That’s when all hell breaks loose.

Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: airline; budget; cuts; security
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Is DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano lowering in-flight commercial airline security to pre-9/11 standards? Article includes video of Napolitano being grilled in Congress on this issue.
1 posted on 02/20/2012 5:46:30 AM PST by cap10mike
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To: cap10mike

“Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....”

the passengers beat the hell outta them.


2 posted on 02/20/2012 6:09:30 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: cap10mike

So, we’ve spent 25 million a year training, or rather, certifying pilots to carry a gun. Since they should pretty much all be trained or certified by now what need is there for this program at that level. I’m not sure, since the author doesn’t explain (he’d rather try to play Dashiell Hammet on the internet) why the program needs to funded at the current level.


3 posted on 02/20/2012 6:14:35 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: raybbr

OMG! now they’ll be no TSA union-hacks protecting us from 90 year old ladies that might be hiding bombs in their diapers.


4 posted on 02/20/2012 6:21:07 AM PST by wny
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To: raybbr

I believe the point is that the program is already underfunded at its present level. Also, flight deck personnel change; they retire, move on, even change their professional status such as become flight instructors, start their own charter service or go into cargo (which requires no such program).


5 posted on 02/20/2012 6:27:18 AM PST by cap10mike (Free market)
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To: driftdiver

Lol! Works for me!


6 posted on 02/20/2012 6:28:25 AM PST by cap10mike (Free market)
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To: driftdiver
Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....

..... the pilot pushes the self-destruct button.

7 posted on 02/20/2012 6:28:53 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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To: driftdiver
Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....

..... three ninjas drop, unseen, from the ceiling and slit their throats.

8 posted on 02/20/2012 6:29:38 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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To: driftdiver
Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....

..... I woke up. Thank goodness it was only a dream!

9 posted on 02/20/2012 6:30:07 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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To: cap10mike
I believe the point is that the program is already underfunded at its present level. Also, flight deck personnel change; they retire, move on, even change their professional status such as become flight instructors, start their own charter service or go into cargo (which requires no such program).

Where is that discussed in the blog? All I read was a weak attempt at fiction writing.

10 posted on 02/20/2012 6:31:22 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: driftdiver
Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....

..... Laz beats them into submission with a wire hanger.

11 posted on 02/20/2012 6:31:25 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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To: driftdiver
the passengers beat the hell outta them

Exactly.

We're not going to take it any more... any able-bodied person who doesn't instantly stand up and take them on is a liberal.

12 posted on 02/20/2012 6:31:38 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: driftdiver
Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....

..... someone fires up a boom-box playing "Who Let The Dogs Out" and they all break into dance.

13 posted on 02/20/2012 6:32:16 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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To: driftdiver
Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....

..... Donald Trump yells, "You're FIRED!" and they all walk, dejectedly, back to their seats.

14 posted on 02/20/2012 6:33:05 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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To: Lazamataz
Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....

Well, if it was during lunch the passengers could use their plastic knives and forks to subdue them.

15 posted on 02/20/2012 6:33:16 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: cap10mike; humblegunner

Treat him harshly, hg. No mercy. No quarter.


16 posted on 02/20/2012 6:34:12 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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To: cap10mike

See, I refuse to go to your blog to read the conclusion, so I get to make up the ending.


17 posted on 02/20/2012 6:35:58 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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To: cap10mike

See, I refuse to go to your blog to read the conclusion, so I get to make up the ending.


18 posted on 02/20/2012 6:36:08 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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To: raybbr
Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....

..... she leaned over, and whispered in my ear, "If we're going to die anyways, lets get naked....."

19 posted on 02/20/2012 6:37:12 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....

..... Steve, who was never without his Pocket Doberman, pulled it out, added the three drops of water the packaging asked for, and watched in amazement as it grew into a full-sized, rabid, foaming Doberman that ripped the terrorists to shreds.

20 posted on 02/20/2012 6:38:45 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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To: Lazamataz

ok that one was good


21 posted on 02/20/2012 6:39:33 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: raybbr
Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....

..... one little old nun said to them, "Now you boys behave!" and they all went back to their seats.

22 posted on 02/20/2012 6:39:39 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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To: raybbr
Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....

..... once the confusion subsided, we discovered they were not terrorists. They were the flight crew! The plane had been flown by trained monkeys up until then!

23 posted on 02/20/2012 6:40:50 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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To: Lazamataz

Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....

Find three scantly clad buxom pilots awaiting them...*hey baby, you wanna know why they call it a cockpit?*

Cue the music...


24 posted on 02/20/2012 6:41:03 AM PST by wyokostur
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To: driftdiver
ONE??!!??

Every one of them is a gem.

25 posted on 02/20/2012 6:42:14 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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To: wyokostur

OMG LOL! That make me choke!


26 posted on 02/20/2012 6:42:45 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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To: driftdiver

Exactly. There’s gonna be some hajji blood on the floor before it’s over.


27 posted on 02/20/2012 6:42:50 AM PST by NVDave
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To: raybbr
Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....

.... after intervening, the stewardess found out they were not terrorists. They were the Albanian weightlifting team, who realized they had upgrades to first class coming.

28 posted on 02/20/2012 6:44:55 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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To: raybbr
Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....

.... asked politely if the plane could turn around. They had forgotten their prayer rugs.

29 posted on 02/20/2012 6:45:54 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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To: Lazamataz
ONE??!!?? Every one of them is a gem.

Mostly. I was looking for the Airplane scene where the passengers pull all of the guns out... I couldn't find a suitable picture.

30 posted on 02/20/2012 6:47:21 AM PST by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer)
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To: Lazamataz
Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....

When they open the door they see three "Ottos" sitting in the seats. A secret govt. program has retrofitted all planes with a decoy cockpit. The pilot, co-pilot and navigator are actually in a small compartment somewhere else on the plane.


31 posted on 02/20/2012 6:47:47 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Lazamataz

32 posted on 02/20/2012 6:48:36 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Lazamataz

Newly installed technology will prevent them from reaching the cockpit before the end of the flight.

33 posted on 02/20/2012 6:50:24 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: raybbr
Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....

.... the pilot and co-pilot eject, leaving the passengers to their fate.

34 posted on 02/20/2012 6:53:58 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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To: raybbr
Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....

.... they open it to find three-hundred Spartans, commanded by King Leonides.

With a cry of "AaaOOOO" they form into Phalanx Formation.

35 posted on 02/20/2012 6:57:24 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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To: Lazamataz
Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....

They find the U.S. women's Olympic fencing team waiting to turn them back.... Oh, wait, they have a muslim on the team. Not sure how that would work out.

Olympic hopeful looks to make a symbolic mark 

36 posted on 02/20/2012 6:58:19 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Lazamataz
Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....

they are cold cocked by the actresses who played "Charlie's Angels" who are on the way to LA for a 35th reunion show.

The plane breaks out in humming the Charlie's Angel theme song. One wag asks "Where's Charlie?"

Hilarity ensues.

37 posted on 02/20/2012 6:58:39 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: exit82
Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door and ....

..... a 16 ton weight drops on them.


38 posted on 02/20/2012 7:00:26 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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To: driftdiver; MileHi

I lost the little dude again. Thank you for finding him for me.


39 posted on 02/20/2012 7:01:12 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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To: Lazamataz

Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door.....

Captain Oveur: You ever been in a cockpit before?
Three burly terrorists: No sir, we’ve never been up in a plane before.
Captain Oveur: You guys ever seen a grown man naked?


40 posted on 02/20/2012 7:09:04 AM PST by wyokostur
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To: Lazamataz

Three burly terrorists rush the cockpit door.....

Captain Oveur: You ever been in a cockpit before?
Three burly terrorists: No sir, we’ve never been up in a plane before.
Captain Oveur: You guys ever seen a grown man naked?


41 posted on 02/20/2012 7:10:42 AM PST by wyokostur
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...only they never got on the plane, after Congress finally passed the ‘Right to Refusal’ legislation that permitted any business, at any time, to refuse service, accommodation or transit to anyone for any reason. The three burly men, who were refused entry onto the plane, spoke through their translator to reporters...

“This is completely unfair. How can we reach paradise if we're refused boarding onto airplanes? We have spent months and months learning how to knit with these 14” sharpened knitting needles, as well as practicing our plans over and over again, and the airline simply took one look at us and told us we can't board, that we're not welcome on this flight.”

A further investigation turned up some more details. Airline spokesperson Anne Gables said, “The men were offered the option of traveling on three separate flights. They were taking off within a half hour of each other, and they could have reunited at their destination with little difficulty.

“Our screeners, all Israeli trained, felt that letting these three on the same flight was a danger to the flight and refused their boarding. Our policy at that point is to try to find alternate accommodation, and that was when a service representative contacted other airlines and made arrangements for the tickets of two of the men to be honored for different flights with other airlines. In fact, all three tickets were upgraded to business class.

“The customers refused the upgrade and refused the accommodation, stating that they felt that they were being put in the same sections with the Sky Marshals, and separated because of their radical Islamic viewpoints. Our screeners agreed with that assessment, a protected right under federal law now.”

Due to changes in federal law, the passengers have no right to appeal the airline's decision, nor seek a penalty in court. “It is the right of everyone, even those who are undocumented, to fly, and this is a civil rights issue!” declared the Imman who is apparently acting as the attorney for the three passengers.

ICE officials would not comment as to the legal status of the passengers, nor respond to a report that they all had expired visas. Though a spokesman noted, “When the TSA was in the airport, everyone was treated equally. No one says anything about a 90 year old grandma in a hand knitted sweater getting aboard with knitting needles, why should they care about three burly guys who happen to be Muslim? If you're going to bar them, you should bar everyone!”

42 posted on 02/20/2012 7:14:40 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: cap10mike

I am a little unclear from the video - Is the purpose and funding of this program ONLY to train pilots so they can carry a gun in the cockpit?


43 posted on 02/20/2012 7:16:26 AM PST by T.O.K.
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To: Lazamataz

I love that guy!


44 posted on 02/20/2012 7:21:52 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: raybbr

“Well, if it was during lunch the passengers could use their plastic knives and forks to subdue them.”

Or their laptops chargers, shoelaces, belts, and whatever other things can be brought to hand as weapons.

If you are not afraid to die you can disable even a burly terrorist with theses things and yourself. Yeah, he can cut your throat, but not before you gouge his eyes out. And if they succeed in taking the cockpit, I figure I am dead anyway, my life for his eyes seems like a fair trade to me. It’s hard to take over an airliner if you cannot see.

And I would bet that I am not the only aisle-seat preferring passenger that thinks that way.

Terrorists will never again succeed in using airliners as cruise missiles. The unorganized militia of the Unites States of America will see to that — even in an Obamanation.


45 posted on 02/20/2012 7:48:36 AM PST by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: cap10mike

I got a solution...howzabout letting CCW carriers exercise their Second Amendment Right while flying?


46 posted on 02/20/2012 8:02:12 AM PST by mo
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To: mo

Sounds good. Except even flight deck officers have been stopped, detained and harassed by the morons at TSA.


47 posted on 02/20/2012 8:34:25 AM PST by cap10mike (Free market)
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To: raybbr

I felt that the fact that the program is already underfunded was made clear in the exchange between Cravaack and Napolitano on the video and needed no further discussion. Also, I thought the fact that personnel changes are a fact of life needed no discussion. From your comments, I can see that perhaps I was wrong in my suppositions. I’ll try to watch it in the future.


48 posted on 02/20/2012 9:06:17 AM PST by cap10mike (Free market)
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To: T.O.K.

I actually phoned Cravaack’s office and was able to speak to him directly. The funding is primarily for flight deck officer background checks training - but the training goes far beyond simple handgun use. It also entails self defense, disarming and negotiation.


49 posted on 02/20/2012 9:12:37 AM PST by cap10mike (Free market)
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To: Lazamataz

Well, finally your ‘’hitting’’ something worth while!


50 posted on 02/20/2012 10:18:43 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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