Skip to comments.Vital Records Indicate Obama Not Born In Hawaii Hospital (Part 2)
Posted on 03/01/2012 10:58:04 PM PST by Windflier
NEW YORK, NY An intensive examination of the contents of Obamas alleged 1961 Certificate of Live Birth image by the most respected experts in vital records accounting and identity investigation reveals that much of the contrived information about his alleged Hawaiian birth simply renders his Natural-born status impossible.
In cooperation with former members of the Social Security Administrations Records and Claims Investigation office, along with information provided by the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), this installment of our report reveals evidence, for the first time, which shows the content of Obamas document image was hastily and recently manufactured by criminal counterfeiters secretly working in collaboration with both the White House and the municipal government of the State of Hawaii.
Most importantly, the actual data found in the document image reveals that Obamas natal history is in direct, and even absurd, conflict with historical precedents defining citizenry, demographics and birth metrics as well as protocols governing vital statistics accounting while exposing epic deceptions on a scale never before seen in American political history.
Aside from the contextual contradictions revealed by Obama's alleged 1961 birth records, it can never be dismissed that, according to centuries of legal and doctrinal precedence, the fact that Obama's father was never a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth forever disqualifies him from ever being eligible to hold the office of president unless the Constitution were to have been legally changed prior to his presidency.
A natural-born citizen is one born of geographic and biological circumstances, and to have remained under those citizenship metrics from birth to election, which make it impossible for any authority or public perception to consider him or her allied with any status other than naturally-born as a citizen of that nation.
Being born in a geographic location which is under the protection of the U.S. Constitution to two citizen parents are two of the three major components of natural-born citizenship according to historical authority defining the term. The third requirement of natural-born citizenship is continuity of that status without renouncement, voluntary or not, by expatriation, extradition or adoption to foreign parents.
These metrics were not made to hurt the feelings of those not qualified. They were intended to protect the sovereignty of the United States of America and its Constitutional rights through ensuring, to the highest possible degree, the allegiances of its executive powers. For, only the executive branch is led by one.
Failure to understand this is tantamount to willful ignorance and inferior understanding of the reason why America remains the greatest santuary of freedom and protection in world history.
"Most certainly, vital records and statistics were never intended to be used as evidence for determining the eligibility of individuals to hold public office. The information contained in them does not provide an accurate portrayal of the specific natal circumstances, biographical events and geographic indicators required for determining Natural-born citizenry. Vital records simply are not qualified for making such determinations, but in the absence of other vetting resources and effort by authorities, they serve as a starting point for investigation.
Since some have chosen to elicit validation from the absurdity of internet images of alleged 50-year-old birth records, without so much as questioning their authenticity or origins, to determine a previously obscure politicians eligibility to hold the most powerful and dangerous position in the world, they get what they deserve in their failure to demand a higher vetting standard.
Not only has the American public descended to new depths of endemic irrationality over Obamas alleged birth records, the complex world of vital records and statistics has been breached to reveal some of the most bizarre protocols and complex logistics of any municipal service.
Tragically, so many remain willing to accept an ambiguous, uncorroborated image of an alleged document posted to the most corruptible and unreliable source of mythology in history, the internet, as the holy grail of some politicians legitimacy to hold the greatest executive and military power on earth."
The above is just a small excerpt from the much larger article, which goes into great detail about the evidence for fraud with Obama’s LFBC.
I haven’t even fully digested it all yet, but the author’s opening statements are some of the most cogent, and eloquent that I’ve yet read on this subject.
Yeah.... What you said.
Go to the original article....ping
Wow! This is an impressive read! I always wondered what those penciled codes meant...This definitely has new info. that should be considered. Thanks for posting!
Pinging to Nachum
Good article made difficult by the authors constant injection of opinion and hyperbole. It could have been a good 25% or more shorter and easier to get through.
ping for later
read it once, will read it a second time...finally someone has it all on one page, thanks for the ping!
Thanks to you, I posted the article on ATS here:
Given the liberal bent of most posters and mods there . . . if anyone wants to increase the likelihood that some of the more fair-minded folks there would see the truth—they are welcome to post on the thread.
AT this late hour in the disintegration of our Republic . . . I figure we need all the publicity of the truth . . . that we can spread far and wide.
“The third requirement of natural-born citizenship is continuity of that status without renouncement, voluntary or not, by expatriation, extradition or adoption to foreign parents.”
A nice thought, but is there a shred of Constitutional corroboration of this claim?
great stuff! :-)
It's right there in Article II, Section One:
"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President".
This includes present status, thus if born a natural born citizen but changed status before running for President, one is not eligible to serve.
The conclusion by former Social Security Administration record investigators is very damning.
"...Obamas certificate number is either fraudulently assigned by forgers, or it was changed to an odd number after the original contents of the document were entered in order to prevent inquiries into Obamas record file tape. Under either circumstance, information about Obamas birth is being intentionally obscured in order to hide his actual natal history and the negative impact it would have on his eligibility to be president."
There are various definitions of the term “natural-born citizen.” It’s not defined in the Constitution. Supposedly, even if you were born in the US to parents who were both aliens, you would still be “natural born.”
This is the best analysis of O’s birth certificate that I’ve ever seen. This and Sheriff Arpaio’s bombshell yesterday should trigger a Congressional investigation into possible forged identity documents.
Thanks for posting.
If that’s all you’re getting it from, then you’re in trouble. We don’t allow parental moves such as adoption to negate regular citizenship status, and I certainly don’t see the precedent that has been established on that re NBC status.
Hey, I’m all for the Sheriff’s work and I think he’s uncovering some important stuff.
I just don’t see anything to back up the claim to that statement, which is central to the argument presented.
Here is the link to
"This is part one of a three part story which will present evidence discovered within the vital records archives of the United States, Great Britain and the Prefecture of Hiroshima, Japan which shows that Barack Obama exploited the municipality of Hawaii and U.S. Vital Statistics reporting methods in order to counterfeit birth records in a criminal attempt to deceive the American people and fraudulently usurp the power of the U.S. Presidency. "Also take a good look at the instructive graphic at the top of the blog page clarifying "natural born" qualifications. Well done.
I was curious about the expertise of the author of this post, Dan Crosby, but his bio wasn't readily available.
The following interesting and related bio info for Penbrook Johannson is, however, posted at one of his other blogs, "The Mombosan Son", :
"Not surprisingly, Barack Obama and I share biographical similarities. We were fostered in paradise, along with a younger sibling, by our white grandparents whose origins once resided in Midwest America before moving west with hope of a better life for our family. Our American grandfathers served the United States as members of the military and we both had a close relationship with a maternal grandmother who passed away in 2008. We both claim a Christian faith, and we are both educated in professional fields attending college where we had occasion to write for the college newspaper. We were both abandoned by our biological fathers who, at the time of our birth, both resided for some time in Hawaii. Then we were both paternally adopted. We were both born to educated, though wayward mothers during their less than discretionary teen years of the 1960s. Both of our mothers moved to the Pacific Northwest soon after our birth and, later, became ill with incurable sickness as we entered into the endeavors of our professional lives. I, too, was issued a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth after applying for the document based on Hawaiian law 338-17 which allowed me to gain natural-born American natal status despite my birth in Brisbane, Australia. I am natural-born citizen of the United States because the laws of the state of Hawaii says I am, despite the fact that my natal origins are nowhere near American soil. I could actually run for President, despite being born abroad, under the same circumstances Barack Obama was."posted August 6, 2010
Good one, thanks cinciella!
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Thank you for your researches.....
Can you give us a quick summary about the "pencil codes"
(I thought they were the football launch codes)
Thanks in advance.
It wasn’t my research. I just happened to find this post. I was talking about the numbers in pencil that are all over the birth certificate. I’ve always wondered if they were significant. I’ve never read an explanation of what they relate to, until this article, and it looks like they are significant.
The presence of the 6 next to the Place of Birth item is most troubling. As the second digit of the number 56, the 1961 VSIM uses the number 56 to code the location of births which occur outside of the United States but which are processed in conjunction with the county of registration. The states and the District of Columbia are numbered in alphabetical order from 01 to 51 while Puerto Rico, Guam, the Virgin Islands, and the Panama Canal Zone were 52 through 55, respectively. This left the number 56 as the code for classifying Remainder of the World. This can be found in the 1961, 1962, 1968, 1977, 1993 and 1999 versions of the VSIM. In 1993, number 55 was the code for New York City because of its large birth volume it was classified as its own major birth rate statistical reporting area.
Essentially, this means the code tape file contains two spaces for the state to record a geographic code for the foreign location of the occurrence of the birth without showing that location on the certificate for a resident mother.
On an alphabetical list of the states including District of Columbia, Hawaii is #12, #6 is Colorado, #26 Missouri, #36 is Ohio, and #46 is Vermont. This would certainly indicate that the birth took place outside the US.
The Constitution states ‘natural born citizen’. Being ‘natural born’ might be a given in some frame of reference but including the word ‘citizen’ makes for a specific feature. Your example includes my own birth and I have no problem not being a ‘natural born citizen’ even after service in WWII. The USA has been great to/for me even though I lost an only brother fighting on Okinawa.
There are several ways to lose one's "natural born" citizenship status. Adoption by foreign parents and acquiring citizenship in their country is certainly one of them. Once lost, the status of natural born citizenship can never be regained.
Who says—on either count?
You betcha. This is without doubt, one of (if not the best) articles about Obama's fake bc that I've ever seen.
Huh? That was the best part!
Abso-frikken-lutely. Best article I've seen on this subject in years.
Good on you, Quix. Very well done.
A hat tip is due to ExTexasRedhead. She sent it out.
A nice thought, but is there a shred of Constitutional corroboration of this claim?
I don't know, but such requirement might be found in our immigration statutes. Whether it is or not, I wholeheartedly agree that it ought to be.
A most excellent retort, my good Freeper!
People who view the condition of Natural Born Citizen in such a way, don't understand its meaning or history. That fact is made abundantly clear by the author of the piece in his opening statements.
Fact: The Framers attempted to restrict the highest office in the land to only those whose tie to The United States was as undiluted and unalloyed as possible (for obvious reasons).
The best way to ensure that the holder of the presidency was of the purest allegiance, was to restrict the holding of that office to only those who were born on US soil, to two US citizen parents.
That is the total simplicity of the Natural Born Citizen clause. There is no other complexity to it.
Thanks for posting the link to Part 1 of the three part series. If you haven’t already, can you post it as a stand alone thread? I think it would be helpful.
Without a doubt. And, this is just one of a three part series. Whoa Nellie!
“I always wondered what those penciled codes meant.”
You will not know what those penciled codes mean by going to the article discussed here because it is a fraud. The supposed images from the 1961 Vital Statistics Instruction manual are actually taken from the 1969 tape layouts (verified by matching imperfections in the image). The actual 1961 code “9” for race (and race is a central part of the argument) is “other non-white” not “not stated” as the article claims. That bit of fraud invalidates a major claim in the article.
Any time an article claims that experts contributed to it, and then no experts are listed, one might reasonably suspect that they are being intentionally misled.
If you really do want to know what the penciled codes mean, read my article:
How did we miss this?
This is precisely why there is little faith or trust in the court system, journalism or the people elected to represent American citizens. The fact is this president has never qualified for the presidency, should be impeached and everything he's enacted should be nullified. Those on talk radio and TV anchors with huge audiences refused to address the matter, yet condemned everything else along the way that Obama did that ripped the Constitution to shreds. Meanwhile a majority of Americans had serious concerns all along that this man should never have been a candidate for the highest position in this land.
Respect for the US Constitution should have taken precedent to EVERYTHING else that spewed out of their mouths about Obama. The fact this man was not Constitutionally qualified to be a US President in the first place is a gigantic face-palm to US history and everyone who played a part in ignoring it and refusing to address the matter in any legitimate way has no respect whatsoever for American sovereignty, no matter how they attempt to spin their deleliction of duty to America and Americans. Joking about it does not constitute educating or informing their audiences.
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