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Shocking Article "Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say"
Gabrielle Cusumano/Townhall Blog/ excerpt of UK article ^ | March 12, 2012 | Stephen Adams

Posted on 03/12/2012 8:29:01 PM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer

Article says newborn babies are not “actual persons” and do not have a “moral right to life”. The academics also argue that parents should be able to have their baby killed if it turns out to be disabled when it is born. " Article published in the Journal of Medical Ethics."

Note: I was stunned when I read this article and post it here to show how dangerous "liberals" dabbling in morality can be. I asked myself is this proposal going to show up in academic discussions in our universities and hospitals? GC

"Parents should be allowed to have their newborn babies killed because they are “morally irrelevant” and ending their lives is no different to abortion, a group of medical ethicists linked to Oxford University has argued. "

By Stephen Adams

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The article, published in the Journal of Medical Ethics, says newborn babies are not “actual persons” and do not have a “moral right to life”. The academics also argue that parents should be able to have their baby killed if it turns out to be disabled when it is born. The journal’s editor, Prof Julian Savulescu, director of the Oxford Uehiro Centre for Practical Ethics, said the article's authors had received death threats since publishing the article. He said those who made abusive and threatening posts about the study were “fanatics opposed to the very values of a liberal society”.

The article, entitled “After-birth abortion: Why should the baby live?”, was written by two of Prof Savulescu’s former associates, Alberto Giubilini and Francesca Minerva.

They argued: “The moral status of an infant is equivalent to that of a fetus in the sense that both lack those properties that justify the attribution of a right to life to an individual.”

More at: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9113394/Killing-babies-no-different-from-abortion-experts-say.html

(Excerpt) Read more at gabriellecusumano.blogtownhall.com ...


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1 posted on 03/12/2012 8:29:05 PM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

“Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say”

Strangely enough, I find myself in complete agreement with the headline. Think of it from a function standpoint: abortion IS killing babies. Anyone who supports abortion, ALREADY support killing babies. It’s the same thing being described in different words.


2 posted on 03/12/2012 8:33:50 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Right up M. Sangers alley. She was the mother of this and any and all thoughts from her should be burned and abolished forever.


3 posted on 03/12/2012 8:35:05 PM PDT by crz
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

This is what happens in godless countries. They are always vile, ugly, inhumane places with no Theological Virtues: Faith, Hope and Love.


4 posted on 03/12/2012 8:35:51 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: I cannot think of a name

““Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say””
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Yes, that is true, but I would change it to:
“Aborting babies no different from killing”


5 posted on 03/12/2012 8:37:50 PM PDT by AlexW
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6 posted on 03/12/2012 8:38:03 PM PDT by narses
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

It’s not killing, it’s murder.


7 posted on 03/12/2012 8:38:25 PM PDT by Jahoohio
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Babies are the best people.


8 posted on 03/12/2012 8:39:30 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Cometh the hour, cometh the man. NEWT GINGRICH 2012)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Well, the headline is correct, at least.

“Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say”

“Abortion no different from killing babies, experts say”

seriously, what IS the difference?


9 posted on 03/12/2012 8:39:56 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
Basic logic. a=killing babies. b=killing babies.

a=b.

Those things are equal.

Both are equal. And evil.

Killing babies is bad.

/johnny

10 posted on 03/12/2012 8:40:35 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: I cannot think of a name

I agree with your thinking but it appears the authors of the article are supplying grounds for infanticide using abortion as lawful and comparable justification. This is terrible.


11 posted on 03/12/2012 8:41:31 PM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

I know a lot of people like myself who don’t consider “academics” as being “actual persons”. They never WORKED a day in their lives and spend all of their time breathing oxygen, wasting water and expelling greenass gases into the ozone.


12 posted on 03/12/2012 8:43:35 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time for Americans to WEAN the government off of OUR money!!!)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Hitler tried that. I’ll bet those same “experts” would find that comparison offensive. If the shoe fits...


13 posted on 03/12/2012 8:43:53 PM PDT by Boiling point
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
Article says newborn babies are not “actual persons” and do not have a “moral right to life”. The academics also argue that parents should be able to have their baby killed if it turns out to be disabled when it is born. "

Progressives are progressing more and more every year back to their roots which is back to the days when they advocated eugenics.

More and more they are becoming the Nazis that accuse conservatives of being.

The Nazis stated that the disabled were not worthy of life. This is what the above statement advocates.

Eventually it will progress from the parents should be able to have their baby killed if it turns out to be disabled to the state should be able to kill their baby.

After that goal is achieved they progress on to the state can determine which adults are not worthy of life if they become disabled or unproductive or they cost to much to maintain.

14 posted on 03/12/2012 8:45:52 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
They are missing the main point and getting bogged in the details.

Sure, a=b. But KILLING BABIES IS WRONG!

They never go to the root of it.

/johnny

15 posted on 03/12/2012 8:46:12 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

This is not really new. About thirty years ago a French magazine reported on why it was better to kill babies after birth than abort them.

It is still sickening.


16 posted on 03/12/2012 8:48:06 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: I cannot think of a name
"Anyone who supports abortion, ALREADY support killing babies."

Pro-choicers know that abortion is equivalent to killing a baby.

They make up convoluted arguments to try to get around that with words like "mass of cells", "clump of tissue", "part of the woman's body", "fetal tissue" or my favorite "product of conception" -- or "POC" for short.

This is just trickery and even they know it deep down.

Abortion is killing another human being. It is the same as ripping the arms and legs off of a newly born baby.

These doctors in the journal are simply coming around to the admit the truth directly.

Killing inconvenient and despised subclasses of human beings has been popular for centuries. Slavery, genocide, total war, racists killings, Islamic executions. Same thing.

Abortion is just our version of killing the victim we hate.


17 posted on 03/12/2012 8:48:50 PM PDT by garjog
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
Murder is murder.

Slippery slope.

On and on we go....

18 posted on 03/12/2012 8:49:13 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Politics is fake. I think it's owned by Vince Mcmahon)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

These pigs should be hung!


19 posted on 03/12/2012 8:49:32 PM PDT by Artcore
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Using their brilliant logic, I guess we could also conclude that these academics could also be aborted...right? After-all, what's age have to do with it?

These people should really be careful what they wish for.

20 posted on 03/12/2012 8:52:35 PM PDT by Artcore
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