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To: steve86

The nation can be saved, but trying to use morality lessons, when the patient is close to death on the operating table is probably not the best way to do it.

Christianity + state sponsorship = inquisitions.

Or do you forget your history?


24 posted on 03/15/2012 11:15:47 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30

The United States of America is all past tense to me now.

This is what happens when graces are removed.

Paganism + secularism = Decline of Empire


32 posted on 03/15/2012 11:18:55 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: Jonty30

I am not a supporter of Santorum. I’m scratching my head over why he’s focusing on this instead of, oh, I dunno, the country going bankrupt.

But I think it’s folks like you who forget their history. The obscenity laws were and have been on the books for centuries. CENTURIES.

If you think banning obscenity is the equivalent of the Inquisition, then I’d have to agree with some other folks here....we are definitely too far gone to save.

You look up the America the Founding Fathers gave us. You tell me whether they gave carte blanche to the production and dissemination of obscene materials in this Republic.


60 posted on 03/15/2012 11:37:49 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Jonty30
The nation can be saved, but trying to use morality lessons, when the patient is close to death on the operating table is probably not the best way to do it. Christianity + state sponsorship = inquisitions. Or do you forget your history?

The level of ignorance on this subject here on FR is astounding. Whenever reforms have been successfully accomplished in history, whether it be Rome, China, Byzantium, Persia, the Catholic Church, etc., such reforms have always been accompanied by a general revival and enforcement of moral norms. Indeed, without such a revival, all reforms will FAIL.

In our current state, you can pass all the laws you want and nothing will change. What is needed is a revival of authentic Christian values among the people who will then demand it of their leaders. Anything short will not revive this republic.

And yes, such a revival CAN be initiated from the top down. It can't be sustained that way, but it can be started.
78 posted on 03/15/2012 11:49:28 AM PDT by Antoninus (Goal #1: Defeat Romney. Goal #2: Defeat Obama. If we don't achieve both goals, 2012 is a loss.)
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