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The Republic, if We Can Keep It (CW2)
American Thinker ^ | March 29, 2012 | Michael Applebaum, MD

Posted on 03/29/2012 5:56:51 AM PDT by Travis McGee

Edited on 03/29/2012 6:02:43 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

With its uninterrupted history of peaceful transition of power through elections, America has a multitude of citizens who justifiably feel pride in the strength of their democracy. But it cannot be denied that political tensions are rising, and it is not uncommon for occupants of both ends of the political spectrum to voice fears of (or hopes for) revolution. Is there any reason to believe that the republic is in danger of revolutionary activity?


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: absolutedespotism; bloodoftyrants; cw2; cwii; cwiiping; libertyordeath; longtrainofabuses; tyranny; usurpations; waronliberty
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To: sport

The history of this nation has not been taught to the last two generations. That’s why it’s almost over.


21 posted on 03/29/2012 8:25:26 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( "It happened. And we let it happen. - Peter Griffin, Family Guy)
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To: ctdonath2; Durus

>Why is it constantly referred to as CW2 instead of Revolutionary War 2?<

>>Because our goal is to preserve the existing Constitution.

If anything, we’d be counter-revolutionaries.<<

WHAT IS A PATRIOT?

PATRIOTS are not “Revolutionaries” trying to overthrow the government of the United States.

PATRIOTS are “Counter-Revolutionaries” trying to prevent the government of the United States,
from overthrowing the Constitution of the United States. - Unknown Author


22 posted on 03/29/2012 8:30:32 AM PDT by B4Ranch (There's Two Choices... Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered ...)
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To: Terry Mross

Amen to that! And it was by design, not omission.


23 posted on 03/29/2012 8:40:48 AM PDT by sport
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To: Travis McGee; All

Economic deprivation of society at large was not a factor Brinton found to be of significance (Anatomy, at 32). However:

... what provokes a group to attack a government is not simply deprivation or misery, but an “intolerable gap between what people want and what they get[.]” (Anatomy, at 30)


And the word “get” is not what I believe some of us expect, or feel entitled to, for lack of a better term...

We simply want the Federal government to live within its means, and stay out of our lives as much as possible...

The more that happens...Prosperity, both economically and socially will occur, it has to...

A total rejection will need to have happen to ensure some form of continuity to the next iteration of this country, if the bubble bursts...

But as someone here said earlier, it’s going to take the same kind of people (they know a few) of Founding Father caliber to step up and fix/rebuild this nation...

I’m not so sure there are enough people like that to do the job...Furthermore, the country and the world haas changed quite a bit since those heady days of the Continental Congress and those white guys in wigs first got together to figure this thing out...

But that doesn’t mean we cannot go back and study what and how they did it...

I would though like to propose a thought process, plant a seed...

If the Federal government shut down due to fiscal insolvency, and no remedy is immediately put into place to correct the problem, not delay the inevitable by spending bills just to keep them running...

I believe the congress, Senate and administration should step down immediately and a process for a national election within one week be allowed to take place, however impractical that may be, if they cannot be good stewards of our expectation to correct their fiscal irresponsibilities, then it is obvious we have the wrong people in there...

But again, we are talking about political cowards, and they tend to do things that do not put themselves in any jeopardy...

Just my opinion, shootin’ from the hip...So to speak...


24 posted on 03/29/2012 8:40:56 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: No One Special

As long as politicians are elected by majority vote, the welfare state will only grow larger.


25 posted on 03/29/2012 8:45:00 AM PDT by sport
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To: All

“I got some swampland in Louisiana I wanna sell ya...Cheap!!!”

Correction...It is really a Crawdad Farm...Only swampland if ya buy it...

;-)


26 posted on 03/29/2012 8:57:00 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Travis McGee

bfl


27 posted on 03/29/2012 8:58:06 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: B4Ranch

” WHAT IS A PATRIOT?

PATRIOTS are not “Revolutionaries” trying to overthrow the government of the United States.

PATRIOTS are “Counter-Revolutionaries” trying to prevent the government of the United States,
from overthrowing the Constitution of the United States. - Unknown Author”

B U M P


28 posted on 03/29/2012 9:05:09 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Clean house in D.C., or the alternative is obvious.


29 posted on 03/29/2012 9:11:35 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sport
Let it be impressed on your mind that God commands you to choose for rulers just men who will rule in the fear of God [Exodus 18:21]. . . . If the citizens neglect their duty and place unprincipled men in office, the government will soon be corrupted . . If our government fails to secure public prosperity and happiness, it must be because the citizens neglect the Divine commands, and elect bad men to make and administer the laws. [Noah Webster, The History of the United States (New Haven: Durrie and Peck, 1832), pp. 336-337, 49]
30 posted on 03/29/2012 9:33:25 AM PDT by No One Special
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To: No One Special

Your post # 30 tells the tale, doesn’t it?


31 posted on 03/29/2012 9:50:12 AM PDT by sport
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To: ctdonath2; B4Ranch; JimRed
I fear it will become increasing obvious to almost everyone that we no longer live in a constitutional republic. Our government has knowingly, and for at least the last 80 years, worked to subvert the constitution in order to become our rulers.

As such I prefer RW2 because reversing this course is more similar to the Revolutionary War to the Civil War.

32 posted on 03/29/2012 10:15:23 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: sport

No. It’s just a way of looking at things.


33 posted on 03/29/2012 10:25:15 AM PDT by No One Special
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To: rarestia

>>The American “experiment” has failed and is turning into a crusty mess at the bottom of history’s petri dish.<<

IF it has failed, it is because We, the people have done little to keep it alive. Contrast your life today to that of the Founding Fathers. Could we give up half as much? A quarter? An eighth perhaps? We have failed to heed Franklin’s warning. We have failed to hear Jefferson’s plea.

It is useless to try and work within the current system. Look at what has happened to the “TEA Party” candidates we helped to elect. They are all falling over themselves to out-RHINO the RHINOs.


34 posted on 03/29/2012 10:46:15 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Just cleaning the House won’t get rid of all of the vermin. We may need to fumigate...


35 posted on 03/29/2012 10:52:09 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Dead Corpse

Fumigate.....yeah, good idea. We won’t have to search for mold though.....just remove McConnell, McCain and Lugar, and most of the mold will be gone : )


36 posted on 03/29/2012 11:36:18 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Dead Corpse

I forgot Graham.....the poofter!


37 posted on 03/29/2012 11:47:55 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Travis McGee
With its uninterrupted history of peaceful transition of power through elections,

except CW I and reconstruction. southern states did not participate in national elections.

38 posted on 03/29/2012 12:10:22 PM PDT by matt1234 (Bring back the HUAC.)
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To: NTHockey

I’m 32. I could do without any gaming console. I could do without my computer. I could do without my TV. I could even make do, albeit with difficulty, without my car. I could do without air conditioning (saying a lot since I live in Florida) and without power, if it came to that.

I cannot do without my weaponry. I cannot do without the love of my family. I cannot do without my country.

I would fight until I’m no longer breathing, and I fear that it will come to that in my lifetime. America gave up on itself. I haven’t given up on America.


39 posted on 03/29/2012 2:43:45 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: LurkingSince'98

There is a little bit of me in all of them. Not Phil Carson so much — I’m younger and prettier than that old cripple.


40 posted on 03/29/2012 2:51:28 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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