Skip to comments.Girlfriends, Letís Talk About How to Convert a Democrat
Posted on 04/26/2012 3:28:33 AM PDT by Kaslin
It starts with a "G." This is Janine Turner's inaugural column for PJ Media.
Think movie scene: a restaurant anywhere in America. A group of five female friends are sitting around talking — three are Democrats, two are Republicans. At a table with no salt shaker and a Michelle Obama-approved menu, the Democrats’ conversation starts like this:
Can you believe the Republicans are taking away our contraception?
This dialogue quickly deteriorates into a misinformed, Obama-fueled fiasco: the wicked “one percent,” the “fairness” of free health care, equal outcomes rather than equal opportunities, etc.
The Republican women look at each other with an unspoken, secret “OMG,” yet they do what conservatives do best: remain conservative. As the Democrat women ramble on about the inequality and wickedness of America — taking no heed that anyone else at the table could possibly disagree with them — the conservative women remain silent.
They do not enter the fray because they know the risks. They know that the Democrats, not able to defend their wiles with wisdom, will attack the Republican womens character. They know that Democrats cannot have a reasonable conversation, and a brouhaha will ensue.
The Republican women, who feel intimidated, remain mute. They believe their inner fortitude is enough. But is it? No, it is not. The stakes are too high. The republic is vulnerable, our childrens futures in jeopardy.
It is now crucial for conservatives to roll up their sleeves and to join the debate. Isolating into the haven of friends who are of the same mind at home, in church, and even on talk radio is no longer an option. Preaching to the choir will not win our country back in 2012.
Its time for Republicans to pronounce: Women are smarter than this.
How does one convert unyielding and uninformed liberals? With reason and knowledge. To enter into this battle, one must be armed, agile, sharp, and resolute.
Here are some tools. When the Democrats start ranting, use the GIRLFRIENDS acronym to forge through the storm.
G: Get Reasonable. Want to teach your children that laws dont matter? Be a Democrat.
I: Informed on Phony Contraception Battle. Want your children to lose their religious freedom? Be a Democrat.
R: Republicans Are the Womens Party. Want your daughter to be constrained by government? Be a Democrat.
L: Legislative Liberty Is Lost. Want your child to live under tyranny? Be a Democrat.
F: Fuel and Energy Policies Are a Farce. Want your childs transportation to be a horse? Be a Democrat.
R: Return Women to the Workforce. Want your daughter to live off the government? Be a Democrat.
I: Insolvency — Sinking in a Sea of Debt. Want your child to live in debt, hounded by creditors? Be a Democrat.
E: Entitlement Society — Give me Liberty and Gimme, Gimme! Want your child to be dependent on other peoples money? Be a Democrat.
N: National Security — We Are Vulnerable. Want to teach your child its okay to be bullied? Be a Democrat.
D: Darkness — Democrats Want Us to Be in the Dark. Want your child to sit in the dark? Be a Democrat.
S: Sick — Our Health Care Will Soon Be Hopeless. Want your child to be sick for a year? Be a Democrat.
So, men and women, get out and talk with your GIRLFRIENDS. We can convert Democrats to Reason — the Republican Party. But we have to enter the fray to do it.
We are smarter than the propaganda we are being sold. Times are serious. To win in 2012, we must be vocal.
Very good points. Save for later.
Does this work for men too?
I have found that trying to convert someone who does not have a passion for truth is a waste of time.
There are three major obstacles: normalcy bias, cognitive dissonance, and intellectual dishonesty.
The human mind can rationalize anything it wants to, no matter how absurd it is.
To be a DemocRAT is to live in a perpetual state of cognitive dissonance.
This is very good, but I’m afraid it will only work on a very small minority of democrats. You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.
In the words of the comedian Ron White:
“You can’t fix stupid”
A-freaking-men. I am so bloody sick of people—both men AND women—thinking they can read my mind by looking between my legs.
On a slightly related note, I have an explicitly-stated right to bear arms, and I also have a right to protect myself from unwanted sex. Since rights come from other people’s pockets now, when can I expect to receive my free firearms?
My husband thinks Janine is hothothot.
You, and he, are probably right. I've brought a couple of liberal leaning friends around - but it has taken literally years of steady effort. Basically you have to:
Always be sane/rational. Don't give in to wild exaggeration or angry discourse - even when they do.
Point out whenever they go off-topic (as liberals do) when they start to lose an argument based on facts. Liberals will always deflect the argument onto a side issue, make emotional appeals, or even resort to personal insults/attacks. Don't respond to these in kind, and don't let the discussion go astray. "Are we done discussing X, have you conceded that I am right on it and would now like to talk about Y?" "Your personal attack on me (or X) leads me to believe you have no real facts to add to our discussion on Y." etc. Be prepared. Almost any substantive discussion with a liberal will end with them trying one or more of techniques.
Always point out that for any supposed "cure" for some real or imagined suffering they see in the world, someone else must suffer. (lost money, resources, freedoms) Ask them if they would like to be the oppressor of these other people.
Know that you are first going to have to "un-educate" them on just about everything they think they know about how the world, economy, government, business etc. works. Because they are a liberal, they've accepted the indoctrination crammed down the throats of unsuspecting students in our public schools and most colleges. Use real-world examples of both the successes of captialism and the private sector, as well as the failures of socialism and fascism. The source material here is almost limitless. Don't over do it and inundate them.
The best thing that can happen to a liberal - that will help you convert them back to reality - is if they get a real job and/or something happens to them that makes them accept real responsibility. When you actually have to work to put food on the table, or take care of an ailing relative, etc. it changes your outlook from the great sounding ideals of liberalism/socialism. You start to see the real consequences of those ideals, and how they lead to fascism. They need to see, first hand, their resources being confiscated for others, their freedoms impinged. It is kind of cold, but they need to have their rampant idealism crushed. A little idealism is a good thing. Too much in the real world leaves you open to abuse and manipulation by those with less than lofty motives.
I claim a couple of successes at converting friends. However, I must also confess a couple of losses too. One I knew I'd lost when he succumbed to a terminal case of PDS. He just couldn't stop regurgitating all the hate-filled drivel about Sarah Palin. He couldn't even tell me why, with any specific examples (based on fact), he didn't like her. When his Facebook posts became full of vile hate speech towards her I finally completely disassociated myself from him. The irony here is he is a homosexual, and you'd think he'd be a little more sensitive to prejudice and hateful speech and insults. Par for the hypocrisy course with terminal liberals I guess.
A second friend has married a liberal woman and I'm afraid he's more taken with her charms. ;-) Sadly he is also allowing himself to be sucked into her world view. He actually thinks obamacare is a good thing. He voted for obama, and is planning on voting for him again. His transformation is so sickening I just can't be around him anymore. Nice guy, his wife is a nice person, but they are just so short-sighted and eff'd in the head I can't take it.
“There are three major obstacles: normalcy bias, cognitive dissonance, and intellectual dishonesty.”
True - plus it’s a matter of identity. As a former lib, I thought that I was one of the “good” people, compassionate and caring. Those Conservatives were selfish, hard-hearted, etc. etc. It took caring more about honesty than my identity - and becoming a Conservative meant bewildering and disappointing - and losing the respect of many family members and friends. It definitely put a barrier between us on some levels. So getting honest is a dangerous thing for a lib and takes some courage. That’s one reason you find them defending all kinds of obviously indefensible actions of Democrats - because it’s a threat to their very identity to take even a step in the other direction.
So as Levin often says, if a lib is not open to really listening and taking in facts, or in his terms, is a “drone,” it is a waste of time to try and make them see reason.
liberals are mentally unstable.
female liberals especially.
they are a lost cause. ridicule them... berate them... but don’t think you can ever reason with them. it’s just not possible. getting through their bi-polar meds and social dogma is hard enough.. forget all the defensive memes enforced by the guilt of abortions
just remove them from your life whenever possible. they are lost and irredeemable except in some extreme circumstance (usually requires a radical life event to shake them awake)
I find it works VERY well to play dumb and say, “What? What do you mean the Republicans are trying to take away our contraception?” Act very stupid, say you hadn’t heard that, and get them to go further and further into detail: what Republican? What law? Oh, so they aren’t really trying to take away the right to actually buy contraceptives, they just think we should pay for our own contraceptives. I see. So how is it wrong to ask people to pay for their own things? Oh, poor women can’t afford it? How much does it cost? What, you mean poor women can afford all those braids and weaves but they can’t come up with $9 for pills? Gosh, I’m broke, is there a program to pay for the front-end alignment I can’t afford?
Etc. Repeat as needed. If they think you’re one of them at first, it works very well.
An actual conversation.
LIBERAL CHICK: The United States is a warmongering nation. There’s no moral justification for war.
CAPITALIST PIG: Really? How about Hitler?
LIBERAL CHICK: Making war was totally unnecessary. I would have opened a dialogue with Hitler, negotiated with him, discussed what he wanted and struck a bargain with him. Anything is preferable to war.
CAPITALIST PIG: (Severe eyeroll) Really? So you’re Chamberlain?
LIBERAL CHICK: Who’s Chamberlain?
And so it goes...
GOOD STRATEGY IDEAS. Saw Hannity doing this with that liberal whacko Tamara or whatever her name is, the other night. He was spoon-feeding her in tiny questions, got her to agree with each one, until she went ballistic when she realized he had her trapped (some discussion about the middle east issues).
But in my experience, reasoning with Democrats is difficult because many of them respond poorly to it. Even if you manage to maintain a calm demeanor and offer reasoned arguments to counter their assertions, it is often ineffective.
A reflexive liberal emotionalism and a prevailing assumption of moral superiority lead many Democrats to accuse rather than assert, which forces Republicans to defend themselves instead of making their points logically.
Another challenge I have encountered is an ideological one: it is very difficult to reach someone for whom quite literally: everything they believe is wrong.
One cannot have a rational policy discussion about immigration or health care with someone who does not even share your understanding of essential first principles, such as the nature of man or the proper role of government in society.
And it is not simple policy differences, but fundamental principles and perceptions that increasingly divide America.
I have found the libs I tried to share truth with to have the same baseless bigotry against conservatives as Marxists do with the wealthy, and Nazis do with Jews.
It’s like a cult of ignorant, arrogant hypocrisy.
With massive doses of projection thrown in.
Like you said, a false identity.
Marxists and Nazis think they are doing good for the world, just like liberals.
No offense meant, former lib.
No problem....I admit I was deluded for a long time, but fortunately I woke up, thanks to the Clintons. That did it for me. Started observing, listening to talk radio, reading...I saw how the left reacted to Clinton’s illegal behavior and tried to make it about sex. And the women’s groups - I lost all respect for them, realized it was all about abortion. As Coulter said, Liberalism is a religion and abortion is its sacrament.
“Liberalism is a Mental Disorder” is a book by Michael Savage.
I have not read it, but I’m sure its good. I totally agree with the premise.
The interesting fact about the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal is the facts Clinton’s media sycophants chose to not mention.
A case could be made that the CEO of a company having an affair can be a separate issue from his competence at performing his job.
I personally have a problem with that amoral behavior, but think about it this way:
The facts so conveniently ignored by the Clinton supporters is that this argument only holds water IF the mistress does not work for the CEO, and the IF the act IS NOT performed on company property and on company time.
What CEO would not be fired if he was having sex with one of his organization’s interns in his office on company time like Clinton was?
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