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Mark Steyn: Eternally shifting sands of Obama's biography
OC Register ^ | 5-18-12 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 05/18/2012 2:28:19 PM PDT by radioone

It used to be a lot simpler. As E.C. Bentley deftly summarized it in 1905:

"Geography is about maps, But Biography is about chaps."

But that was then, and now Biography is also about maps. For example, have you ever thought it would be way cooler to have been born in colonial Kenya?

Whoa, that sounds like crazy Birther talk; don't go there! But Breitbart News did, and it turns out that the earliest recorded example of Birtherism is from the president's own literary agent, way back in 1991, in the official bio of her exciting new author:

"Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."

So the lunatic theory that Barack Obama doesn't meet the minimum eligibility requirements to be president of the United States was first advanced by Barack Obama's official representative. Where did she get that wacky idea from? "This was nothing more than a fact-checking error by me," says Obama's literary agent, Miriam Goderich, a "fact" that went so un-"checked" that it stayed up on her agency's website in the official biography of her by-then-famous client up until 2007:

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


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To: edge919

I;m sorry, I meant announced his run for president.


41 posted on 05/19/2012 2:13:47 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: radioone

Sunday AM bump ...


42 posted on 05/19/2012 4:23:45 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: radioone

Soviet historians could confidently predict the ineclutable future, but could never explain the ever changing past.


43 posted on 05/19/2012 5:00:23 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets
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To: Drew68

Ok then, if after all this you now conclude that he was in fact born in Hawaii and later claimed his Kenyan birth to gain educational funding as a foreign student or some ivy league admission advantage, why would he later spend such a massive amount of money to prevent the release of his genuine long form Hawaiian birth certificate? AND then when forced, disclosed such a poorly forged document? My hunch is this..... He was first truthful about his birth place in Kenya and then years later, in order to appear eligible as a candidate for president, created a lie about being born Hawaii. But I could be wrong.... It is only a hunch.


44 posted on 05/19/2012 5:17:04 AM PDT by Save-the-Union
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To: Save-the-Union

Occam’s Razor: In my opinion you’re asking the relevant questions and pointing out the most likely “explanation”. So one would think that Mark Steyn’s Occan Razor approach would go with what you’re suggesting.

But, basically, what just about everyone (including “mainstream” conservatives [e.g., Mark Steyn] who want not to stray beyond the outer limits of the politically correct reservation) WANTS TO BELIEVE is that Obama (in the present) tells the truth about “things”. Any discrepancy with things he said in the past MUST BE that he was LYING PREVIOUSLY. There can be no other accepted explanation.

Oh my, the madness of crowds.


45 posted on 05/19/2012 6:23:48 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: JLS

Thanks for the ping - Steyn is once again spot-on and hilarious. I know the LOL thing is overused, but I actually did that while reading the article.


46 posted on 05/19/2012 7:47:27 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: House Atreides

“”””””(including “mainstream” conservatives [e.g., Mark Steyn] who want not to stray beyond the outer limits of the politically correct reservation)...... Any discrepancy with things he said in the past MUST BE that he was LYING PREVIOUSLY. There can be no other accepted explanation.”””””

Interesting..... You seem to process this like a psychological profile to explain a flaw of in Mark Steyn’s Occan Razor logic. Maybe you are right.
BUT, I look at it as my humble contribution to a body of ideas. My input is what I see as most likely closer to the truth.
Maybe I am wrong but I am happy to speculate.

You see, because the obummer is such a liar, those of us conservatives who seek and understand original intent, are forced to speculate. But this makes me happy because I know by posting on this forum, we peel back the layers and slowly reveal the truth. It must be driving them crazy.....


47 posted on 05/19/2012 7:48:35 AM PDT by Save-the-Union
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To: InterceptPoint
Even Steyn is a sellout on this issue. Sad to say. The possibility that Obama was actually telling the truth about his birthplace way back then isn’t even a consideration.

I still enjoy Steyn on a lot of topics but I've thought less favorably of him ever since he went on a tear on a caller who brought up the eligibility issue when Mark was subbing for Rush. His arguments were absurd and revealed almost willful ignorance.

48 posted on 05/19/2012 8:03:09 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Drew68

I just firmly believe the notion that his teenage mother took a very expensive and arduous journey by herself to a third-world country specifically to have a baby is ridiculous.

You forget, the people are nuts.


49 posted on 05/19/2012 9:41:42 AM PDT by Josephat (`)
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To: radioone
Dear Mr. Steyn,

I am completely and thoroughly **P***** that you and other so-called “conservatives” so casually dismissed the Article 2 defenders claiming is was a “technicality”. Yes, I happened to be listening the very day that you called Article 2, Section 1, of the Constitution a “technicality”.

SHAME on you for taking this long to pay attention.

Sincerely,

Wintertime

50 posted on 05/19/2012 12:11:34 PM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: Drew68
I still believe Obama was born in Hawaii. I still believe the Kenyan birth conspiracy was absurd.
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Do you believe in the Easter Bunny, too?

Well....There are inconsistencies here. Before getting on any state ballot it needs to be checked out thoroughly with certifiable evidence.

51 posted on 05/19/2012 12:15:45 PM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: House Atreides
Exactly! Mr. Steyn is choking on a gnat of his own fabrication.

If Obama really was born in Hawaii, and not Kenya, why go to the trouble of posting a crudely made forged birth certificate?

52 posted on 05/19/2012 12:24:00 PM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: Drew68
I just firmly believe the notion that his teenage mother took a very expensive and arduous journey by herself to a third-world country specifically to have a baby is ridiculous.
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Yeah! Stanley Ann Dunham was the very epitome of rationality. ( sarc)

53 posted on 05/19/2012 12:28:47 PM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: edge919
Part of the problem is that being born in Kenya further removes Obama from being an “African-American” ... he wasn’t born to African-Americans and didn’t grow up in an African-American household.

I can't count how many times I've brought this up to other American blacks. They just didn't care that 0bama is not one of us!



Where there's a shell, there's a way.

25 years ago, we had Ronald Reagan, Johnny Cash, and Bob Hope.
Today we have Obama, no cash, and no hope!

If you can't appreciate the pure beauty of the violin after hearing this, something's wrong with your ears.

Or you can get raw with these strings.

How about this gamechanger from America's Got Talent (which they SHOULD have won).

Either way, the violin is sweet yet lethal.

Do it!

54 posted on 05/19/2012 9:49:28 PM PDT by rdb3 (If you were tried in court for being a Christian, is there enough evidence to convict you?)
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To: 9YearLurker
My take on Obama was he was born of an American mother thus he is an American. (Unless she or he had later renounced their citizenship)

However he was ”Kenyan” when it was convenient.i.e. passport, college, the Draft, bookselling, etc but “American” in elections, i.e, the presidency.

Thus "a man of all seasons," and the perfect lying Liberal.

The Left is just covering up his "inconvenient" lies.

55 posted on 05/20/2012 1:27:56 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: RedMonqey

Isn’t there something about someone born abroad to only one American parent who is under the age of 19 not being a US citizen at all?

If so, and if either of the Canadian or Kenyan hypotheses is correct, then I’d think there’d be question as to the legitimacy of his citizenship at all.


56 posted on 05/20/2012 1:38:05 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: radioone

He said he was born in Kenya.

Then he spends a kabillion dollars to keep us from verifying that he was actually born in Hawaii? He destroys archives, issues a fraudulent BC and seals records.

And Rush, Coulter, Levin and Steyn defend his eligibility with more energy than democrats.


57 posted on 05/20/2012 2:23:24 PM PDT by mom.mom
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To: mom.mom
>”And Rush, Coulter, Levin and Steyn defend his eligibility with more energy than democrats”<
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If true tyranny comes to the U.S., Rush, Levin, Coulter, and Steyn will sell their talents to the fascist oligarchy. They will lick the jack boots crushing our necks.

Bet on it! These so-called “conservatives” are phonies. They are entertainers. They have gonads the size of dust mites.

58 posted on 05/20/2012 5:02:01 PM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: 9YearLurker
Isn’t there something about someone born abroad to only one American parent who is under the age of 19 not being a US citizen at all?

Sorry for the delay but I wanted to be able to back up my comments.

Apparently the law isn't as clear as I thought.(One parent="Natural Born")

All the Natural Born cases I've researched involving alien parents have the offspring being physically born on US soil.

And Section 8 USC § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth only involve being "citizens" not "Natural Born" citizens.

And it may be just legalese(I'm not a lawyer)but the rest involve parents pural, not singular.

If the so called" birthers" can get ahold of the actual birth document, and not "copies" they may be on to something after all

Makes you wonder why Team Obama has been spending so much $$$ covering up if there's "No There" there... So unless something else pops up, I think I'm eating my words....at least a little. ;-)
59 posted on 05/22/2012 4:07:48 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: radioone

coming in 2 weeks late to this story/thread, I will advance another possible hypothesis, perhaps one already advanced.

Barak Hussain Obama was born in Hawaii, where he smoked a lot of reefer and did poorly at school. He ends up at Occidental college. At some point at Occidental College he decided he wanted to reach for more, so he fudges his transfer application to Columbia. It wasn’t enough just to be African American with those grades. It was better to be African African! So he tells them he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and voila - suddenly a shoddy academic record can be written off to cultural bias and lessened ability to understand the language. At Columbia he did better, and decided that this was such a good little scheme that he puts it on his Harvard Law application, where they see an African who lifted himself up by his bootstraps, jumped from Occidental to Columbia where he did do better - and voila, he is in at Harvard Law. The story sticks with him to get a book deal. Not realizing he would eventually reach for the highest elected office.

Not that it really mattered. But he could say nothing - either he was really born in Kenya, or his lied his way into a career that included a nomination to the Presidency. He shuts up and hopes it wont’ matter enough, which it didn’t.


60 posted on 05/29/2012 7:47:12 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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