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Shameless, hapless vanity: Problem with the brakes on a 1993 F250
Vanity ^ | 5-20-2012 | Vanity

Posted on 05/20/2012 3:58:36 PM PDT by OKSooner

Tried posting this on F150online but no takers...

Y'know that little stamped steel doodad that connects the parking brake cable, coming from the parking brake pedal, to the two cables that each go to the brakes on each rear wheel?

Mine broke from metal fatigue. So I got a new one, fortunately, from my local dealer. It has three keyhole-shaped holes in it - one in the center, for the forward cable, and two holes on either end, one for each rear cable. It looks to me like it installs by slipping the cable stop for each cable thru the big portion of the keyhole shape, and then around to where the cable stop is bearing on the small part of the keyhole shape. You do this for each cable, forward and rear.

Of course, there's got to be a certain amount of slack in the lines. I tried doing it by pulling the parking brake pedal all the way up into the release position and then pulling the slack out of the rear cables. Obviously I'm still missing something.

If I have to pull off the rear brake drums and un-adjust the brakes to get mucho slack in the rear cables, how is this done? Any special brake tools required? Or is there some other way that doesn't involve messing with the brakes that I just don't know about?


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1 posted on 05/20/2012 3:58:43 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: OKSooner
what's the "brake"?
:-) yhea.. I'm shameless.

2 posted on 05/20/2012 4:03:24 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA. DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; different flie$". :^)
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To: OKSooner

3 posted on 05/20/2012 4:04:40 PM PDT by WackySam (Obama got Osama just like Nixon landed on the moon.)
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To: OKSooner

This is for a 89 but should be silmilar.

4 posted on 05/20/2012 4:10:31 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: WackySam

Hmmmm.... Not my truck but it might help. Thanks.


5 posted on 05/20/2012 4:10:55 PM PDT by OKSooner (Never take a "known safety risk" shooting with you even if he is an ordained minister.)
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To: OKSooner

Have you looked on youtube? All kinds or car repair videos on there.


6 posted on 05/20/2012 4:13:16 PM PDT by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM OBIWAN IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
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To: OKSooner
Hmmmm.... Not my truck but it might help. Thanks.

It should be similar, and have an adjustment rod with a nut on it near where all three cables come together.
7 posted on 05/20/2012 4:15:33 PM PDT by WackySam (Obama got Osama just like Nixon landed on the moon.)
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To: OKSooner

http://www.fordf150.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=53907


8 posted on 05/20/2012 4:18:55 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: OKSooner

The pickup is twenty years old. They don’t last forever. The 2013 Ford F250 is amazing. Take a test drive.


9 posted on 05/20/2012 4:22:54 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: OKSooner
"If I have to pull off the rear brake drums and un-adjust the brakes to get mucho slack in the rear cables, how is this done? Any special brake tools required? Or is there some other way that doesn't involve messing with the brakes that I just don't know about?"

You should not have to do this as most of the ajustment should be in the single cable with all the hardware.

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What you have is based on this same design maybe some differences but all in all works the same way.....Sort of.

10 posted on 05/20/2012 4:23:57 PM PDT by Johnny_cash
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To: OKSooner

I’ve got a 93 e250 and it just has that plate for connecting, no springs no adjusters. Looks like you’ll have to back off on the wheel adjustments to get enough slack, if you’re lucky maybe just one.


11 posted on 05/20/2012 4:42:29 PM PDT by DCmarcher-976453
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To: SVTCobra03

Not everyone can afford a $30,000-$35,000 truck.


12 posted on 05/20/2012 4:45:51 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: OKSooner

Pull each side cable as far as you can with pliers then clamp a vise grip on the cable gently so it does not pull in.

If this does not give enough slack then you need to manually adjust your park brakes in. If they are drums this is also your service brake.


13 posted on 05/20/2012 4:47:30 PM PDT by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: OKSooner

Take the nuts off the equalizer adjuster that is coming from the front of the vehicle. If there is no equalizer adjustment rod then there will be an adjustment further forward. Place the rear cables in the yoke that you bought and make sure the parking break is OFF. That is NOT depressed. You should be able to put the rod through the yoke from the forward cable and place the nuts back on the rod. Then adjust until just snug. DO NOT overtighten as the rear brake shoes will be in contact with the drum. When you press down on the parking brake pedal it should tighten and work. Good Luck


14 posted on 05/20/2012 5:07:06 PM PDT by timlilje
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To: OKSooner

I am not a mechanic, but I never saw a parking brake that went to the front wheel.


15 posted on 05/20/2012 5:17:20 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: SVTCobra03
"The pickup is twenty years old. They don’t last forever. The 2013 Ford F250 is amazing. Take a test drive."

Nothing personal, SVT, but I'm going to keep my '93 F-150 going 'til it or me dies.

I keep up the brakes, tires, clutch, engine, belts, plugs, transmission, tie rods, wheel bearings, shocks and everything else to the best of my ability.

I drug home almost a ton of compost the other day with the bed sitting on the axle. (10 miles). It made it.

I'd love to have a Diesel F-250 but not until this one dies.

16 posted on 05/20/2012 5:42:02 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: OKSooner
You Tube doesn't have your exact year or model but they can be a good source of DIY videos. Tons of videos on how to do brakes on models close to yours. I would take the part number and go to websites to see what years and models that cable covers. It could be the exact same as another model or year that videos are available for on You Tube.
17 posted on 05/20/2012 5:57:53 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Venturer

Where did I imply that?


18 posted on 05/20/2012 6:30:51 PM PDT by OKSooner (Never take a "known safety risk" shooting with you even if he is an ordained minister.)
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To: SVTCobra03
The 2013 Ford F250 is amazing. Take a test drive.

As well it should be, for $60k in a loaded 4x4 PSD.

19 posted on 05/20/2012 6:42:13 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: OKSooner

A brake spoon


20 posted on 05/20/2012 6:44:07 PM PDT by Figment
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Freepers, Just a little note.

Where is the YELLOW?



21 posted on 05/20/2012 7:12:39 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: OKSooner

I would follow the cable from end to end and make sure there is no adjustment point anywhere in between you missed. If you can’t find a way to get more slack from the front cable then you may need to loosen the star wheel adjusters in the rear drums. This can be done through a little window in the backing plates, but the star wheel auto adjuster is intended to go only one way as the brake shoes wear down. If you decide to try loosening it through the backing plate then you will need to push the lever out of the way that automatically adjusts the star wheel while you try and turn it The lever that auto adjusts the rear brakes also prevents the star wheel from turning backwards. Since your not familiar with what all this looks like you’re probably better off just taking the drum off so you can see what is going on in there and back the star wheel adjuster all the way back down that way. Worse case scenario, you may have to pull the rear brake shoes off and that should definitely give you the slack you need. It may only be necessary to do that on one side. It’s been many years since I played with the rear brakes on a Ford truck and my memory isn’t what it once was, but I think this is a pretty accurate description of the layout.


22 posted on 05/20/2012 7:25:08 PM PDT by Usually_Disappointed (I think the tree of liberty is getting thirsty...)
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To: OKSooner

Found On Road Dead at least ya won’t have to use any gun powder...
How many miles on it?


23 posted on 05/20/2012 7:50:09 PM PDT by Tigen (I shall raise you one .)
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To: OKSooner
” A man has to know his limitations”

I guess you did not, now take the truck to a MECHANIC and let him fix it.
When I was in the repair business, I had a sign that read:
Labor: $50.00 Hour
If you watch: #100.00 Hour
If you help: $200.00 Hour
If you tried to fix it your self: #400.00 hour
There was & is a good reason for that.

24 posted on 05/20/2012 8:32:14 PM PDT by Tupelo (TeaParty member, but no longer a Republican)
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To: OKSooner
” A man has to know his limitations”

I guess you did not, now take the truck to a MECHANIC and let him fix it.
When I was in the repair business, I had a sign that read:
Labor: $50.00 Hour
If you watch: $100.00 Hour
If you help: $200.00 Hour
If you tried to fix it your self: $400.00 hour
There was & is a good reason for that.

25 posted on 05/20/2012 8:33:07 PM PDT by Tupelo (TeaParty member, but no longer a Republican)
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To: OKSooner

Well?
Did you get it?


26 posted on 05/20/2012 8:42:16 PM PDT by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: OKSooner

“It has three keyhole-shaped holes in it - one in the center, for the forward cable, and two holes on either end, one for each rear cable.”

From the post.


27 posted on 05/21/2012 3:24:05 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Tupelo
If one is reasonably intelligent and willing to learn and has the time he can save alot by embracing self reliance and attempting difficult tasks. I have found that I can do most mechanical repairs on my own and save a lot of money. My desire to learn came about after being ripped off by supposedly respectable mechanics. Adjusting a brake cable is a fairly easy thing to do and this fellow is well on his way to learning how to accomplish it. I congratulate him on taking the initiative. I in no way am saying it is for everyone and there are instances when a mechanic is the best choice....it is always my last choich however.
28 posted on 05/21/2012 4:56:38 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Tupelo
If one is reasonably intelligent and willing to learn and has the time he can save alot by embracing self reliance and attempting difficult tasks. I have found that I can do most mechanical repairs on my own and save a lot of money. My desire to learn came about after being ripped off by supposedly respectable mechanics. Adjusting a brake cable is a fairly easy thing to do and this fellow is well on his way to learning how to accomplish it. I congratulate him on taking the initiative. I in no way am saying it is for everyone and there are instances when a mechanic is the best choice....it is always my last choice however.
29 posted on 05/21/2012 4:56:55 AM PDT by ontap
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To: ontap

Sorry for the double post!


30 posted on 05/21/2012 4:58:00 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Venturer

Forward cable I would think refers to where it attaches to the emergency brake pedal not the front brakes.


31 posted on 05/21/2012 4:59:47 AM PDT by ontap
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To: OKSooner

all the cables I have dealt with had a turnbuckle at some point but it has been a long time since I have dealt with one.


32 posted on 05/21/2012 5:02:17 AM PDT by ontap
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To: ontap

It’s not important enough to be worth arguing about.


33 posted on 05/21/2012 5:03:25 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer
Wasn't arguing ...simply pointing out your mistake.
34 posted on 05/21/2012 5:06:49 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Venturer

Yes, there’s a cable going forward to the parking brake pedal, and the two cables going to the rear go to each rear wheel.


35 posted on 05/21/2012 5:25:16 AM PDT by OKSooner (Never take a "known safety risk" shooting with you even if he is an ordained minister.)
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To: ontap

Thank you.


36 posted on 05/21/2012 5:26:41 AM PDT by OKSooner (Never take a "known safety risk" shooting with you even if he is an ordained minister.)
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To: ontap

LMAO at MY mistake.


37 posted on 05/21/2012 5:46:40 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer
From your post

It has three keyhole-shaped holes in it - one in the center, for the forward cable, and two holes on either end, one for each rear cable.” From the post.

No where in this post is the front brake mentioned... you misread the post initially... then you misread it again and even copied and posted it. it is commendable that you can laugh at your mistake though!

38 posted on 05/21/2012 7:09:33 AM PDT by ontap
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To: ontap

Yes: I am an ignorant SOB, thanks for pointing it out so well. Now have you finally made your point or will I get another message?


39 posted on 05/21/2012 8:25:08 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Never called you ignorant nor an SOB....just pointed out your mistake.Actually I don’t think it was worth the arguement!!!!!!


40 posted on 05/21/2012 1:04:48 PM PDT by ontap
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To: OKSooner

Did you get your friggen brake cable hooked up or not!!
This is a 5 minute operation!

$95.00 per hour from now on. No more free instruction.


41 posted on 05/21/2012 10:02:16 PM PDT by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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