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Why Obama might have claimed he was born in Kenya
Flopping Aces ^ | 05-21-12 | DrJohn

Posted on 05/21/2012 5:07:53 PM PDT by Starman417

The issue of Barack Obama's birthplace has been simmering for a long time. It has been ridiculed by the left incessantly, as well as by some on the right. The seemingly sensible course is to deny that Obama was born anywhere else but in Hawaii, but as is typical of Obama, nothing is as it initially appears. There are questions that need answers.

Breitbart has disclosed that Obama's literary agent published a booklet that describes a young Barack Obama as being born in Kenya:

Breitbart News has obtained a promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obama's then-literary agency, Acton & Dystel, which touts Obama as "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."

The booklet, which was distributed to "business colleagues" in the publishing industry, includes a brief biography of Obama among the biographies of eighty-nine other authors represented by Acton & Dystel.

It also promotes Obama's anticipated first book, Journeys in Black and White--which Obama abandoned, later publishing Dreams from My Father instead.

All too predictably, the media immediately leaped to defend Obama, asserting this was some sort of oversight:

Barack Obama birth certificate conspiracy theorists have been foiled again.

Conservative-leaning Breitbart.com on Tuesday published a copy of a promotional booklet from Obama's former literary agency. According to a brief biography in the 1991 booklet, Obama was "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii," fueling fire to the idea that the president is not a natural-born American citizen.

As New York magazine noted, the article caused a stir in conservative circles, drawing commentary from the Drudge Report and other popular websites.

However, the woman who wrote Obama's biography in the pamphlet said Thursday that she had misidentified Obama's place of birth.

"This was nothing more than a fact-checking error by me -- an agency assistant at the time," Miriam Goderich, who worked for the literary agency Acton & Dystel, told Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii."

So the left would have us believe that this woman allowed this error to fester for 20 plus years. Saner heads might question why this remained uncorrected all this time. Maybe she didn't know Obama had been elected President? From where did she get the notion that Obama could have been born in Kenya?

But then another "Born in Kenya" account emerges- this one from the AP in 2004.

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: kenya; kenyanbornmuzzie; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: Starman417

MMMMM.....’cuz he was....?? And at the time wasn’t contemplating a run for the Presidency?


21 posted on 05/21/2012 6:47:22 PM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Victor
Besides the fact that it's Uber-Chic to be from Kenya....unless, of course, you are thinking about a run for President of the United States.

Then it's not so chic.....

22 posted on 05/21/2012 6:51:45 PM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: so_real

You know Sasha and Melia have been told since they were children that he was born in Kenya-cause he was. I would love to know what they are thinking about their father having to say he was born in Hawaii and putting out that birth certificate when they know he wasn’t. Poor girls have a lot to bear trying to hold up Daddy’s lies.


23 posted on 05/21/2012 6:53:39 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: dandiegirl

Has any one checked Sasha and Melia Birth Certificate’s? ..because the father’s place of birth is usually listed


24 posted on 05/21/2012 7:10:41 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: Mr. K

What evidence is there that he was born in Kenya?


25 posted on 05/21/2012 7:22:04 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: tophat9000

Has any one checked Sasha and Melia Birth Certificate’s? ..because the father’s place of birth is usually listed

Wow! Great point. If he were born in USA he could put theirs out there too for further proof.


26 posted on 05/21/2012 7:23:02 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: Doc Savage
It definitely makes me feel saner...

Obama released a short form copy of his birth copy in 2008, and a copy of the original last year. You can claim they are both forgeries, but that implies a conspiracy between Obama and the State of Hawaii which is implausible. Meanwhile there isn't any specific evidence as good as the State of Hawaii documents he was born anywhere else.

27 posted on 05/21/2012 7:31:37 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: Doc Savage
In all honesty Doc., what do you expect to achieve by proving Obama (Bill Ayers) is a lair? The only way to act against Obama is Impeachment and Congress would never bring a charge against him when there is no detailed statutory process to register or verify a Presidential candidate's qualifications even up to this moment. The point is moot. The only way it could matter is to set the record straight in the history books of the future. Even then, it would only be one sentence describing a crazy Constitutional oversight that allowed a fraud to become President.
28 posted on 05/21/2012 7:43:06 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: MrShoop

I know you’ve already received a number of replies to your post, but I’d like to formally (and politely) ask you to point us to some form of proof that 0bama was born in Hawaii. Something that wasn’t fraudulently created in bits and pieces and pasted together within the past few years.

Thank you.


29 posted on 05/21/2012 8:21:08 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( ABO - 2012 )))))
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To: Starman417

Here’s a wild theory. Maybe he really was born in Kenya.


30 posted on 05/21/2012 8:35:29 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: MrShoop

What evidence is there that he was born in Kenya?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1grt5uehak


31 posted on 05/21/2012 8:35:41 PM PDT by Herbster
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To: MrShoop

I personally downloaded the long-form birth certificate from the white house’s website on the day the released it and was able to use Adobe Illustrator to disassemble the pieces. That document definitely did NOT come from Hawaii. It was created by an 0bama lackey who failed to “flatten” the image before uploading it and they got caught. Besides, both the short-form and the long-form list BHO Sr’s race as “African” which isn’t a racial designation and never was. It’s not even a nationality. Do a little research and find out what the proper terms were back in 1961. You’ll find they’re most likely “black”, “negro” or “negroid” or something similar. That was the proper vernacular of the day. Another mistake made by the fool(s) who fabricated 0bama’s papers.

Nothing is real about him except for the danger he poses to our country.


32 posted on 05/21/2012 8:39:28 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( ABO - 2012 )))))
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To: laweeks

I think the woman in question is not his actual grandmother but another wife of his grandfather—a step-grandmother.


33 posted on 05/21/2012 8:41:57 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: MrShoop

“I know FR is birther territory, but the likelihood there is a conspiracy that includes Obama and officials of the state of Hawaii to present a fraudulent birth certificate isn’t plausible. And while people pick at the evidence that is out there for the Hawaii birth, there isn’t any positive evidence of his birth elsewhere.”

TheObamaFile.com has compiled a number of links to these various stories:

Kenya Sunday Standard headline — “Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate”.....SundayJune 27,2004
http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/Born04.htm

The Nigerian Observer — “Americans will today go to the polls to elect their next President with Democratic Party candidate, Senator Barack Obama largely favoured to win. The Kenyan-born Senator will…”
http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/Born01.htm

USAfrica — “Kenyan-born OBAMA makes history…wins presidential nomination of U. S. Democratic party; eyes on White House…”
http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/Born09.gif

AllAfrica.com — ” Little wonder then why Kenyan-born Barack Obama, America’s first Black President…”
http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/Born02.htm

GraphicGhana.com — “For Ghana, Obama’s visit will be a celebration of another milestone in African history as it hosts the first-ever African-American President on this presidential visit to the continent of his birth.” The same article, with the same quote, appeared in ModernGhana.com. http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/AfricaContinentOfHisBirth.htm
http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/Born05-ContinentOfBirth.htm

The Ghana Times — “So far, the odds favour the once underdog in American politics, Obama, the African-American Senator from Illinois state. A Congressional Quarterly (CQ) politics monitored on BBC put the Kenyan born American ahead of his rivel, John McCain.”
Tues 04, Nov 2008 http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/Born07.bmp
I also extensively covered Mr. Obama’s July trip to Ghana here.

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/2009/07/11/modernghana-com-obamas-visit-to-the-continent-of-his-birth/

How do you account for all of the African News Agencies saying Obama was Kenyan -Born??


34 posted on 05/21/2012 8:49:58 PM PDT by ebysan (ebysan)
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To: Starman417
However, the woman who wrote Obama's biography in the pamphlet said Thursday that she had misidentified Obama's place of birth.

So then why Kenya? Why not Kentucky, South Africa or Mali. She misidentified from what source? I'll bet it was from Obama's lying lips.

35 posted on 05/21/2012 9:16:41 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Ineptocracy; the Obama way.)
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To: MrShoop
What evidence is there that he was born in Kenya?

Didn't you hear? He said he was born in Kenya.

36 posted on 05/21/2012 9:19:33 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The President who ate the dog, will soon wag the dog.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Guess what, Elizabeth Warren said she was part Cherokee and Richard Blumenthal said he served in Vietname, does it make it true? Obama probably did say he was born in Kenya, and someone should find out and hold him accountable.


37 posted on 05/21/2012 9:52:31 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: Two Kids' Dad
The two copies of his Hawaii Birth Cert are better evidence than anything else I've seen that say he was born elsewhere. No one is showing a Kenyan birth cert or getting high level Kenyan government officials to vouch for it.

Most of the arguments that they are forgeries are based on a misunderstanding of how scanning and compression work. Both were certified by the State of Hawaii, so if they were forged it means that it a massive conspiracy, which is just silly.

38 posted on 05/21/2012 10:01:13 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: Two Kids' Dad
You can claim they are forgeries, but you can;t claim they didn't come from Hawaii. The State of Hawaii made this statement:
The Hawai‘i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.

“We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai‘i,” Hawai‘i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai‘i.”

On April 22, 2011, President Obama sent a letter to Director Fuddy, requesting two certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth. Also on that day, Judith Corley, the President’s personal attorney, made the same request in writing on behalf of the President. (Letters from President Obama and Ms. Corley are attached).

On April 25, 2011, pursuant to President Obama’s request, Director Fuddy personally witnessed the copying of the original Certificate of Live Birth and attested to the authenticity of the two copies. Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, certified the copies.

President Obama authorized Ms. Corley to pick up the documents. On April 25, 2011, Ms. Corley appeared in person at the Hawai‘i State Department of Health building in Honolulu, paid the requisite fee, and was given the two certified copies, a response letter from Director Fuddy to President Obama, and a receipt for payment. (Letter from Director Fuddy is attached).

Source: Hawaii Health Department Grants President Obama's Request for Certified Copies of 'Long Form' Birth Certificate

So if you want to claim they are forgeries, you have to weave into your story that the Hawaii State officials are all involved in the conspiracy as well.

39 posted on 05/21/2012 10:08:34 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: ebysan
Why do you think they reported it? It probably wasn't because someone showed them a kenyan birth certificate. There could be lots of reasons. Obama may have claimed it himself to gain some sort of affirmative action advantage. It could be wishful thinking on their part. It could be a misunderstanding. Incorrect stuff gets printed every day in the US press, which as biased as it is has a somewhat higher standard than the African News Agency.

This is where the office is for the Nigerian Observer, not sure they do a lot of fact checking:

http://www.panoramio.com/photo_explorer#view=photo&position=971&with_photo_id=32670543&order=date_desc&user=2687089

40 posted on 05/21/2012 10:37:23 PM PDT by MrShoop
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