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Why Obama might have claimed he was born in Kenya
Flopping Aces ^ | 05-21-12 | DrJohn

Posted on 05/21/2012 5:07:53 PM PDT by Starman417

The issue of Barack Obama's birthplace has been simmering for a long time. It has been ridiculed by the left incessantly, as well as by some on the right. The seemingly sensible course is to deny that Obama was born anywhere else but in Hawaii, but as is typical of Obama, nothing is as it initially appears. There are questions that need answers.

Breitbart has disclosed that Obama's literary agent published a booklet that describes a young Barack Obama as being born in Kenya:

Breitbart News has obtained a promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obama's then-literary agency, Acton & Dystel, which touts Obama as "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."

The booklet, which was distributed to "business colleagues" in the publishing industry, includes a brief biography of Obama among the biographies of eighty-nine other authors represented by Acton & Dystel.

It also promotes Obama's anticipated first book, Journeys in Black and White--which Obama abandoned, later publishing Dreams from My Father instead.

All too predictably, the media immediately leaped to defend Obama, asserting this was some sort of oversight:

Barack Obama birth certificate conspiracy theorists have been foiled again.

Conservative-leaning Breitbart.com on Tuesday published a copy of a promotional booklet from Obama's former literary agency. According to a brief biography in the 1991 booklet, Obama was "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii," fueling fire to the idea that the president is not a natural-born American citizen.

As New York magazine noted, the article caused a stir in conservative circles, drawing commentary from the Drudge Report and other popular websites.

However, the woman who wrote Obama's biography in the pamphlet said Thursday that she had misidentified Obama's place of birth.

"This was nothing more than a fact-checking error by me -- an agency assistant at the time," Miriam Goderich, who worked for the literary agency Acton & Dystel, told Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii."

So the left would have us believe that this woman allowed this error to fester for 20 plus years. Saner heads might question why this remained uncorrected all this time. Maybe she didn't know Obama had been elected President? From where did she get the notion that Obama could have been born in Kenya?

But then another "Born in Kenya" account emerges- this one from the AP in 2004.

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: kenya; kenyanbornmuzzie; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: 4Zoltan
Here is a New York Times article from February 6, 1990, pre-literary agent bio, that says he was born in Hawaii.

And he also wrote a book (1995) that talks about his being born in Hawaii.

I am aware of both. These two examples do not change my impression that he led people to believe he was from Kenya. Race Bannon is a freeper on this website who personally claims to have met Barack Obama in Hawaii, and he likewise claims that Barack Obama told him he was from Kenya. I have also exchanged messages with a commenter who claims to have met Barack Obama in Lake Decatur in Decatur, IL when he came for a visit with his mother and Peter Geitner's children (Treasury Secretary Timothy Geitner's father) back in the 1970s, and he too said Barack told him he was born in Kenya. I regard it as credible because everything else he told me I was able to verify as true. Did you know that Ann Dunham actually worked for Peter Geitner?

There are a couple of videos of Barack Obama insinuating that he is from Kenya, and there are at least two of his wife doing the same thing.

Apart from that, one of the Hawaiian Newspapers ran an article (later corrected) asserting he was born in Indonesia. Chris Mathews (On Hardball) claimed back in 2007 that Barack was born in Indonesia, and insinuates his source was Hillary Clinton who was supposedly attacking Barry for having been born in Indonesia.

I haven't even gotten in to the half dozen African Newspapers claiming such, or the NPR article claiming he was born in Kenya. There are so many people getting his birth place as Kenya, that it just stretches credibility to believe that they all came up with the same delusion at the same time.

Now we have this latest revelation that he was posing as a "Kenyan" back in 1991, and so it just stands to reason that the source of all the confusion is the guy who claims to be from here when it suits his purpose, and claims to be from somewhere else when THAT suits his purpose.

I think it suited little Barry Obama to believe he was the son of some very important man in some exotic far off foreign country. I don't think there is a shred of truth to it, but i'm sure the fantasy comforted little abandoned Barry.

61 posted on 05/22/2012 3:02:49 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: 353FMG
"....You have to be kidding....."

I think you misunderstood....

What I meant was that Obama used his Kenyan origins as a resume enhancer to further certain aspects of his career, long before running for the Presidency.

He created the illusion that it was uber-chic, by being black but not an American black....

62 posted on 05/22/2012 3:12:46 PM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Victor

You’re forgiven, sin no more.

For your penance, go to Mombasa, drink some Tusker beer and get a sunburn on Niyali beach.


63 posted on 05/22/2012 3:19:37 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: DiogenesLamp

You original comment was that prior to 2006, he consistently claimed to be born in Kenya. But the examples you cite are for the most part post 2006.

1.) New York Times, February 6th, 1990 - “born in Hawaii”
2.) Los Angeles Times, March 19th, 1990 - “born in Hawaii”
3.) Associated Press, May 3rd, 1990 - “born in Hawaii”
4.) Literary Agent Bio, 1991 - “born in Kenya”
5.) “Dreams of My Father”, 1995 - birth hospital in Hawaii
6.) Honolulu Advertiser, January 8th, 2006 - “Both were born outside the country - Obama in Indonesia, Duckworth in Thailand.”
7.) Hardball with Chris Matthews, December 18, 2007 - “But didn‘t Hillary dump on Obama a few days ago for playing up his Indonesian roots? So, what is she up to here? Is she pushing how great he is for having been born in Indonesia, or what, or simply reminding everybody about his background, his Islamic background? “
8.) Michelle Obama, December, 2007 - “Barack a Kenyan”
9.) Michelle Obama, August, 2008 - “His home country in Kenya”


64 posted on 05/22/2012 7:43:31 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan
You original comment was that prior to 2006, he consistently claimed to be born in Kenya. But the examples you cite are for the most part post 2006.

It is what it is. We have the examples we have because back when he was just a state Senator (or even before that) no one cared where he was from. It didn't matter at all. Nowadays we are just able to find things that haven't been pulled/corrected by his agents and allies, or sealed by executive order. We find what we find because it's on the internet. Not so much of what was published back in the 1990s *IS* on the internet.

But one of your points begs the question. If his 1995 book says he was born in Hawaii, how did his literary agent get that so wrong? Presumably she read the book. Right? :)

I have recently read articles that demonstrate his bio was corrected/edited many times between 1991 and 2007, but they never changed his place of birth until 2007. Funny that.

65 posted on 05/23/2012 5:45:51 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: MrShoop
Honestly, your theory makes much less sense than the people who claim it is a straight forgery.

Actually BOZO, it's a proven forgery!

Full Video of Sheriff Joe Arpaio Press Conference 3/1/12 - Obama Eligibility Cold Case Investigation
66 posted on 05/23/2012 4:39:21 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: MrShoop

67 posted on 05/23/2012 4:42:55 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: MrShoop
... another Elizabeth Warren indian situation.

You know nothing about her ancestry. Your president also made the same claim about having Cherokee ancestors.
68 posted on 05/23/2012 4:54:17 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer
You know nothing about her ancestry. Your president also made the same claim about having Cherokee ancestors.

So you think she is a cherokee? you are wackier than I thought. Any claim to her so called indian heritage has been debunked. The only "proof" so far is a family newsletter.

69 posted on 05/23/2012 5:26:03 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: MrShoop
So you think she is a cherokee?

Where did I say that idiot?

Any claim to her so called indian heritage has been debunked.

Really? Prove it. Like I said, you knew nothing about her ancestry, but maybe your just learned something. So you also believe your president?

Ancestors of:
Elizabeth A. Herring
1st Generation

1. Elizabeth A. Herring was born Jun 22, 1949 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Co., OK and died  in -.

Other events in the life of Elizabeth A. Herring
Graduation : 1970 in University of Houston
Degree : 1976 in J.D., Rutgers University
Appointed : Between Nov 25, 2008 and Nov 15, 2010 in Chairperson of the Congressional Oversight Panel
Appointed : Between Sep 17, 2010 and Aug 1, 2011 in Special Advisor for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
Pic : Elizabeth (Herring) Warren

Father: 2. Donald Jones Herring was born Nov 5, 1911 in Hughes Co., OK and died Dec 3, 1997 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Co., OK.

Mother: 3. Pauline Reed was born Feb 14, 1912 in Oklahoma and died Jul 18, 1995 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Co., OK.


2nd Generation (Parents)

2. Donald Jones Herring was born Nov 5, 1911 in Hughes Co., OK and died Dec 3, 1997 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Co., OK.

Other events in the life of Donald Jones Herring
Social Security Number : 445-20-3211

Father: 4. Grant Leslie Herring was born Aug 6, 1887 in Billings, Christian Co., MO and died May 28, 1969 in Hughes Co., OK.

Mother: 5. Ethel Virginia Jones was born Jul 27, 1887 in Christian Co., MO and died Nov 11, 1975 in Hughes Co., OK.


3. Pauline Reed was born Feb 14, 1912 in Oklahoma and died Jul 18, 1995 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Co., OK.

Father: 6. Harry Gunn Reed was born Oct 1, 1872 in Mt. Vernon, Jefferson Co., IL and died Dec 23, 1956 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Co., OK.

Mother: 7. Bethania Elvina Crawford was born Oct 29, 1875 in Lebanon, Laclede Co., MO and died Nov 15, 1969 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Co., OK.


3rd Generation (Grandparents)

4. Grant Leslie Herring was born Aug 6, 1887 in Billings, Christian Co., MO and died May 28, 1969 in Hughes Co., OK.

Other events in the life of Grant Leslie Herring
Social Security Number : 446-34-4068
Occupation : Merchant

Father: 8. John Hayne Herring was born Jul 20, 1860 in Cornwall, England.

Mother: Mary Annie Scharan was born Mar 5, 1860 in Switzerland and died Jan 5, 1941 in Wetumka, Hughes Co., OK.


5. Ethel Virginia Jones was born Jul 27, 1887 in Christian Co., MO and died Nov 11, 1975 in Hughes Co., OK.

Father: Summerfield Jones was born Mar 25, 1837 in Maryland and died Mar 11, 1904 in Missouri.

Mother: 9. Sarah Frances Kerr was born Jul 20, 1854 in Missouri and died Jul 6, 1938.


6. Harry Gunn Reed was born Oct 1, 1872 in Mt. Vernon, Jefferson Co., IL and died Dec 23, 1956 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Co., OK.

Father: Joseph H. Reed was born 1837 in Ohio and died After 1880.

Mother: Charity Louise Gorman was born 1841 in Illinois.


7. Bethania Elvina Crawford was born Oct 29, 1875 in Lebanon, Laclede Co., MO and died Nov 15, 1969 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Co., OK.

Father: 10. John Houston Crawford was born Mar 26, 1858 in Missouri and died Jan 23, 1924 in Hughes Co., OK.

Mother: 11. Paulina Ann Bowen was born Apr 1858 in Camden, Ray Co., MO and died Jan 1905 in Clarksville, Johnson Co., AR.


4th Generation (Great-Grandparents)

8. John Hayne Herring was born Jul 20, 1860 in Cornwall, England.

Other events in the life of John Hayne Herring
Immigrated : Aug 26, 1866

Father: John Herring was born 1839 in Cornwall, England and died 1904 in Billings, Christian Co., MO.

Mother: Ann Hayne was born 1828 in England and died 1889 in Billings, Christian Co., MO.


9. Sarah Frances Kerr was born Jul 20, 1854 in Missouri and died Jul 6, 1938.

Father: 12. Matthew H. Kerr was born Mar 9, 1822 in Warren Co., TN and died Feb 26, 1895 in Christian Co., MO.

Mother: 13. Sarah Ann Elizabeth Ellis was born Jun 9, 1832 in Kentucky and died Apr 9, 1900 in Christian Co., MO.


10. John Houston Crawford was born Mar 26, 1858 in Missouri and died Jan 23, 1924 in Hughes Co., OK.

Father: 14. Preston H. Crawford was born 1824 in Tennessee.

Mother: Edith March was born Mar 5, 1826 in Bledsoe Co., TN and died Jun 24, 1871 in Laclede Co., MO.


11. Paulina Ann Bowen was born Apr 1858 in Camden, Ray Co., MO and died Jan 1905 in Clarksville, Johnson Co., AR.

Father: 15. George Washington Bowen was born Feb 14, 1827 in Marion Co., IN and died Jan 14, 1907 in Clarksville, Johnson Co., AR.

Mother: 16. Bethania Clark was born Feb 27, 1828 in Kentucky and died Jan 1, 1926 in Johnson Co., AR.


5th Generation (Great(2)-Grandparents)

12. Matthew H. Kerr was born Mar 9, 1822 in Warren Co., TN and died Feb 26, 1895 in Christian Co., MO.

Other events in the life of Matthew H. Kerr
Census : 1850 in Page 292B, Polk, Greene Co., MO

Father: 17. William Kerr was born Mar 11, 1791 in Sevier Co., TN and died Mar 27, 1875 in Greene Co., MO.

Mother: 18. Anne Nancy Hubbert was born Aug 7, 1793 in Tennessee and died Sep 20, 1853 in Greene Co., MO.


13. Sarah Ann Elizabeth Ellis was born Jun 9, 1832 in Kentucky and died Apr 9, 1900 in Christian Co., MO.

Other events in the life of Sarah Ann Elizabeth Ellis
Census : 1850 in Page 292B, Polk, Greene Co., MO

Mother: Minerva was born About 1815 in Kentucky.


14. Preston H. Crawford was born 1824 in Tennessee.

Father: Jonathan Houston Crawford was born 1800 in Tennessee and died Jan 23, 1841 in Jackson Co., TN.

Mother: Neoma Sarah Smith was born 1794 in North Carolina.


15. George Washington Bowen was born Feb 14, 1827 in Marion Co., IN and died Jan 14, 1907 in Clarksville, Johnson Co., AR.

Father: 19. Abraham Bowen was born Jul 7, 1794 in Jefferson Co., WV and died Feb 22, 1875 in Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN.

Mother: 20. Ruth Smith was born Oct 28, 1799 in Washington Co., PA and died Apr 9, 1887 in Marion Co., IN.


16. Bethania Clark was born Feb 27, 1828 in Kentucky and died Jan 1, 1926 in Johnson Co., AR.

Father: 21. Daniel W. Clark was born 1793 in Virginia and died 1870 in Camden, Ray Co., MO.

Mother: 22. Mary Matney (nicknamed "Polly") was born Feb 15, 1797 in Tazewell Co., VA and died 1846 in Indiana.


6th Generation (Great(3)-Grandparents)

17. William Kerr was born Mar 11, 1791 in Sevier Co., TN and died Mar 27, 1875 in Greene Co., MO.

Father: 23. Robert Kerr III was born May 15, 1758 in Mecklenburg Co., VA and died May 6, 1819 in Sevier Co., TN.

Mother: 24. Amy George was born Nov 19, 1767 in Berks Co., PA and died Sep 17, 1837 in Sevier Co., TN.


18. Anne Nancy Hubbert was born Aug 7, 1793 in Tennessee and died Sep 20, 1853 in Greene Co., MO.

Father: 25. Robert Hubbert was born Sep 15, 1771 in Virginia and died Between 1830 and 1840 in Marion Co., AL.

Mother: Martha was born Apr 12, 1773 in Virginia and died About 1797.


19. Abraham Bowen was born Jul 7, 1794 in Jefferson Co., WV and died Feb 22, 1875 in Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN.

Other events in the life of Abraham Bowen
Pic : Abraham Bowen

Father: 26. Jesse Bowen was born Sep 22, 1772 in Calvert Co., MD and died Oct 13, 1843 in Concord, Ross Co., OH.

Mother: 27. Priscilla Bowen was born Feb 2, 1776 in Calvert Co., MD and died Jan 27, 1863 in Ross Co., OH.


20. Ruth Smith was born Oct 28, 1799 in Washington Co., PA and died Apr 9, 1887 in Marion Co., IN.

Father: Ephraim Smith was born 1775 in Monmouth Co., NJ and died Oct 2, 1822 in Henry Co., IN.

Mother: 28. Ann Charity Farnsworth was born 1776 in New Jersey and died Dec 8, 1865 in Crawfordsville, Montgomery Co., IN.


21. Daniel W. Clark was born 1793 in Virginia and died 1870 in Camden, Ray Co., MO.

Father: John Clark was born Aug 12, 1765 in Lancaster Co., PA and died Sep 13, 1844 in Greene Co., IL.

Mother: Nancy Fielding was born  in Virginia.


22. Mary Matney (nicknamed "Polly") was born Feb 15, 1797 in Tazewell Co., VA and died 1846 in Indiana.

Father: 29. Brooks Matney was born 1775 in Prince George's Co., MD and died Feb 13, 1828 in Tazewell Co., VA.

Mother: Jennet Young was born 1776 in Virginia and died Apr 14, 1847 in Tazewell Co., VA.


7th Generation (Great(4)-Grandparents)

23. Robert Kerr III was born May 15, 1758 in Mecklenburg Co., VA and died May 6, 1819 in Sevier Co., TN.

Father: 30. Robert Kerr, Jr. was born 1732 in Mecklenburg Co., VA and died 1806 in Green Co., TN.

Mother: Martha Hayes was born 1733 in Virginia and died Jul 13, 1786 in Tennessee.


24. Amy George was born Nov 19, 1767 in Berks Co., PA and died Sep 17, 1837 in Sevier Co., TN.

Father: 31. Edward George was born 1732 in Chester Co., PA and died 1798 in Cookeville, Putnam Co., TN.

Mother: 32. Martha Woolaston was born 1727 in Berks Co., PA and died Apr 1, 1808 in Jefferson Co., TN.


25. Robert Hubbert was born Sep 15, 1771 in Virginia and died Between 1830 and 1840 in Marion Co., AL.

Father: James Hubbert was born Jul 18, 1741 in England and died Feb 8, 1824 in Tennessee.

Mother: Elizabeth Anderson was born Jul 13, 1750 in Virginia and died Oct 8, 1821 in Tennessee.


26. Jesse Bowen was born Sep 22, 1772 in Calvert Co., MD and died Oct 13, 1843 in Concord, Ross Co., OH.

Father: 33. Abraham Bowen, Jr. was born About 1740 in Calvert Co., MD and died About 1800 in Calvert Co., MD.

Mother: Truman was born About 1745 in Calvert Co., MD and died 1810 in Calvert Co., MD.


27. Priscilla Bowen was born Feb 2, 1776 in Calvert Co., MD and died Jan 27, 1863 in Ross Co., OH.

Father: 34. Young Bowen was born About 1746 in Calvert Co., MD and died After 1810 in Calvert Co., MD.

Mother: Eleanor was born Between 1755 and 1758 in Maryland and died After 1810 in Calvert Co., MD.


28. Ann Charity Farnsworth was born 1776 in New Jersey and died Dec 8, 1865 in Crawfordsville, Montgomery Co., IN.

Father: 35. Henry Farnsworth, Jr. was born 1750 in Hunterdon Co., NJ.

Mother: Elizabeth was born 1752.


29. Brooks Matney was born 1775 in Prince George's Co., MD and died Feb 13, 1828 in Tazewell Co., VA.

Father: Walter Matney was born About 1738 in Prince George's Co., MD and died Mar 11, 1799 in Washington Co., VA.

Mother: Mary (nicknamed "Polly") was born 1750.


8th Generation (Great(5)-Grandparents)

30. Robert Kerr, Jr. was born 1732 in Mecklenburg Co., VA and died 1806 in Green Co., TN.

Father: Robert Kerr was born 1681 in Scotland and died 1735.

Mother: Jessica Monroe was born 1690 in Virginia and died 1735.


31. Edward George was born 1732 in Chester Co., PA and died 1798 in Cookeville, Putnam Co., TN.

Father: Richard George was born Oct 10, 1699 and died Jun 12, 1783 in Virginia.

Mother: Rebecca Jane Ellis was born Jan 27, 1703 in Delaware Co., PA and died Nov 1742 in Chester Co., PA.


32. Martha Woolaston was born 1727 in Berks Co., PA and died Apr 1, 1808 in Jefferson Co., TN.

Father: Samuel Woolaston was born 1695 in Berks Co., PA and died Jun 1768 in Reading, Berks Co., PA.

Mother: 36. Gobitha Powell was born Feb 19, 1695 in Radnor, Chester Co., PA and died Feb 1768 in Berks Co., PA.


33. Abraham Bowen, Jr. was born About 1740 in Calvert Co., MD and died About 1800 in Calvert Co., MD.

Father: Abraham Bowen was born Between 1691 and 1699 in Calvert Co., MD and died About Mar 1762 in Calvert Co., MD.

Mother: 37. Sarah Young was born Aug 14, 1712 in Calvert Co., MD and died About Jan 1776 in Calvert Co., MD.


34. Young Bowen was born About 1746 in Calvert Co., MD and died After 1810 in Calvert Co., MD.

Father: Abraham Bowen was born Between 1691 and 1699 in Calvert Co., MD and died About Mar 1762 in Calvert Co., MD.

Mother: 38. Sarah Young was born Aug 14, 1712 in Calvert Co., MD and died About Jan 1776 in Calvert Co., MD.


35. Henry Farnsworth, Jr. was born 1750 in Hunterdon Co., NJ.

Father: 39. Henry Farnsworth was born Feb 13, 1691 in Chesterfield, Burlington Co., NJ and died Oct 9, 1758 in Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ.

Mother: 40. Mary Brinson was born About 1692 and died 1748 in Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ.


9th Generation (Great(6)-Grandparents)

36. Gobitha Powell was born Feb 19, 1695 in Radnor, Chester Co., PA and died Feb 1768 in Berks Co., PA.

37. Sarah Young was born Aug 14, 1712 in Calvert Co., MD and died About Jan 1776 in Calvert Co., MD.

38. Sarah Young was born Aug 14, 1712 in Calvert Co., MD and died About Jan 1776 in Calvert Co., MD.

39. Henry Farnsworth was born Feb 13, 1691 in Chesterfield, Burlington Co., NJ and died Oct 9, 1758 in Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ.

40. Mary Brinson was born About 1692 and died 1748 in Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., NJ.



70 posted on 05/23/2012 5:40:27 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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