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In A Few Years China Will Likely Be the Second-Most Important Country for Israel
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Posted on 07/01/2012 9:58:45 AM PDT by arthurus

The most obvious reason is that the Chinese–one important official called it the “little superpower–perceive that Israel in particular and the Jewish people in general have been success stories. Ten or twenty years ago this would have been less unique in the world. But now, sad to say, it stands out more because the United States and Europe, perhaps only temporarily, are not working very well.Of course, on a strategic level, Israel and China have some differing interests but these are less important than they may appear to be. China wants to have commerce with everyone, including Iran, and is protecting Syria in the international framework.

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1 posted on 07/01/2012 9:58:55 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: arthurus

Israel does try hard, and has been successful in the past, in trying to sell sophisticated military systems and aircraft to China.

China benefited immensely from the Lavi fighter plane technology (co-developed with US assistance) that Israel handed over to them.

This was nearly two decades ago.

The recent incident I can remember is the attempted sale of the PHALCON AWACS to China.


2 posted on 07/01/2012 10:06:59 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks arthurus. Sidebar:
3 posted on 07/01/2012 10:16:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: James C. Bennett

Many Americans do not realize that China was one of the few nations during the 1930’s that let the Jews facing Nazi prosecution come to live. Shanghai had one of the largest Jewish communities before Hitler shut off the exodus. Israel whenever it is possible have paid back to past supporters. This is one of the motivation Israel has for being friendly with China. However Israel’s friendship is tempered by its relation with the US, and China knows that and is not offended by Israel’s limits. But China unlike the US. recognizes the value of Israel and the talents of the Jews, while the US taken over by Arab money, Ron Paul and Dem leftist do not.


4 posted on 07/01/2012 10:16:56 AM PDT by Fee
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To: arthurus
it stands out more because the United States and Europe, perhaps only temporarily, are not working very well

We're gonna be a little tied up for the next 50 years or so figuring out who's gonna pay for Sandy Fluke's contraceptives not so much a world power so Israel will be wise to hedge their bets.

5 posted on 07/01/2012 10:21:59 AM PDT by Calusa (The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
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To: arthurus
Israel and China also have many parallel interests, among them the desire for stability in the Middle East and the hope that revolutionary Islamism doesn’t spread. And China’s policy of dealing with all other countries has another side, since it will not let its relationships with Israel be interfered with by any possible Arab or Iranian demands. Indeed, if China decides to become the main customer for Israeli natural gas and oil exports, the Jerusalem-Beijing relationship may be Israel’s most important link, second only to the one with the United States.

China's attitude is commerce and profit from both sides while preventing confrontation and violence from both sides. Additionally, China recognizes the superior value of Israel over Iran and Syria, and assumes Israel will defend herself, the US does not support either position.

Rubin does not mention Russia executing a similar policy as a cooperating competitor with China.

It's about energy, commerce, value and profit. Islam and Islamic nations are the makings of a s**t sandwich, China, Russia and Israel are going to get the bread, and the US and Western Europe are going to get the s**t.

6 posted on 07/01/2012 10:31:32 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Fee
Yes.

Likewise, one of the motivations for Israel to maintain very friendly relations with India is similar - the Indian Subcontinent has been one of the rare place in the world where Jews escaping persecution (Crusaders, Inquisitioners, Islamists, etc.) have always found welcome refuge, over millennia:

“When the Portuguese arrived in 1498, they brought a spirit of intolerance utterly alien to India. They soon established an Office of Inquisition at Goa, and at their hands Indian Jews experienced the only instance of anti-Semitism ever to occur in Indian soil.”

SOURCE: Who are the Jews of India? - The S. Mark Taper Foundation Imprint in Jewish studies.

University of California Press. 2000. p. 26. ISBN 978-0-520-21323-4.

7 posted on 07/01/2012 10:42:47 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: arthurus

Or, while our US political/regulator class was playing Lawrence of Arabia,...


8 posted on 07/01/2012 10:49:02 AM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: arthurus

First, Principles!

China is collectivist. Israel is collectivist.

America is not in principle, but is now a de facto collective run by unelected bureaucrats..

The cultural rot of collectivism is deep in America.


9 posted on 07/01/2012 10:50:09 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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You’re still thinking of the collectivist Israel of the 1950’s. Israel in 2012 is a thriving hi-tech economy that is pretty far removed now from the kibbutznik driving a tractor.


10 posted on 07/01/2012 10:57:53 AM PDT by Astronaut
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“You’re still thinking of the collectivist Israel of the 1950’s. Israel in 2012 is a thriving hi-tech economy that is pretty far removed now from the kibbutznik driving a tractor.”

Jews are the best practitioners of socialism, but if you want a definitive insight into Israel,s socialism and its results, read the answer to Robert Ardrey when he asked the Polish immigrant farmer why his field was obviously more productive than the nearby collective field which was on the best kibbutz in all Israel. It can be found in African Genesis, by Robert Ardrey.

Using a prominent soi dissant America as an example, one can take the socialist out of Chicago, but one can't take the “Chicago Way” out of the socialist.

Same with Jews and collectivism.

11 posted on 07/01/2012 1:09:30 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: GladesGuru
The Likud has spent the last 15 years privatizing industries in Israel. Its economy is growing because of it. Israel (67.8) scores closer to the US (76.3) than US does to Hong Kong, which is first place. China proper has a score of 51.2

AS for the article, Israel is in a tight spot. Our leadership both Obamunist and Neocon are functionally allied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

12 posted on 07/01/2012 3:13:25 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: James C. Bennett
Israel does try hard, and has been successful in the past, in trying to sell sophisticated military systems and aircraft to China.
I'm sure Israel could sell more equipment to China. But China keeps selling to Israel's Arab enemies and supporting Iran.

The recent incident I can remember is the attempted sale of the PHALCON AWACS to China.
The Phalcon is Israeli not American. Israel defered the sale at the request of the US. However the US also tried to block Israeli sales to India, not on the basis of American security but so that we could sell India less equipment. And then we have the Harpy anti-radar UAVs, which Israel sold to China and then siezed during a refit at the behest of the US. Meanwhile, we vacillate on selling weapons to Taiwan.

13 posted on 07/01/2012 3:20:33 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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Israel has actually managed to sell Python 3 missile (modified AIM -Sidewinders) to China since the 80s.


14 posted on 07/03/2012 5:57:40 AM PDT by ravager
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To: ravager

What nobody (nobody) is paying attention to, is that China of yesterday, is not the China of tomorrow.

We are mute on that.

China is in a unique position, to turn the world upside down.

Potentially for bad.


15 posted on 07/03/2012 6:02:24 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: ravager

There is no “managed”. This was done with US approval. The ChiComs were out allies during the later part of the Cold War. I find the sales of Italian Aspide missiles, which is an improved AIM-7 Sparrow. China then re-engineered this into the PL-10.


16 posted on 07/03/2012 10:52:06 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: rmlew

“There is no “managed”. This was done with US approval.”

Nah. Not sure about that one.
http://giwersworld.org/israel/missiles.phtml


17 posted on 07/03/2012 11:50:36 AM PDT by ravager
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The Python 3 is not a modified AIM-9. It is a larger missile with a different warhead and seaker. It is a development of the earlier Shafrir. Israel has devloped many systems from American ones, but this isn’t one of them.


18 posted on 07/03/2012 11:16:27 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: ravager
"Admiral Quigley said he did not know if the State Department had complained when it was notified of the sale."
So the best you can find from an antisemitic site (seriously, check out your source http://giwersworld.org/ ) is an admiral, not a state dept source, who admits ignorance.
19 posted on 07/04/2012 3:30:12 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: rmlew
Wrong. Shafrir is a smaller missile compared to the Python with a much smaller range and poor performance. The dimensions of Python roughly match that of AIM-9.
20 posted on 07/04/2012 10:43:15 PM PDT by ravager
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