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Netanyahu reaffirms Israel claim to parts of West Bank
Reuters ^ | January 24,2010 | Jeffrey Heller

Posted on 01/24/2010 12:26:43 PM PST by ColdOne

Our message is clear: We are planting here, we will stay here, we will build here, this place will be an inseparable part of the State of Israel for eternity," Netanyahu said in the Gush Etzion enclave.

Speaking after meeting U.S. President Barack Obama's Middle East envoy in Jerusalem, Netanyahu vowed Israel would also keep its two biggest West Bank settlements, Maale Adumim and Ariel.

His comments came as no surprise to the Palestinians, who were put on notice by

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: Quix
Well said!
151 posted on 01/25/2010 5:02:11 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: humblegunner

Which of the following words is difficult to understand?

“I’ve never said otherwise.”


152 posted on 01/25/2010 5:04:07 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: wmfights

Thanks for your kind words.


153 posted on 01/25/2010 5:05:30 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
“I’ve never said otherwise.”

So Israel, in rejecting Christ, is damned.

That is different than "chosen".

154 posted on 01/25/2010 5:13:10 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner; Amityschild; Blogger; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...

You seem to see an absolute dichotomy

where I don’t believe God sees one.

I have no idea how God is going to work all those parameters out regarding Israel.

Certainly the 144,000 accept Christ and are His Witnesses.

And, I’ve read a fellow living in Israel who insists that the percentage of Messianic Jews now approaches the percentage that God told the OT prophet had not yet bowed to Baal.

I don’t know how God is going to work those issues out.

I believe the Bible—ALL THE BIBLE—whether it always fits my linear logic, or not. I trust God with those mysteries.

I just know that The Jews ARE God’s Chosen.

That HE IS NOT REMOTELY FINISHED WITH THEM AS HIS CHOSEN; AS CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB.

That Salvation is through Christ alone.

That God seems to make a distinction between the Church of Jesus Christ as represented by the thrones of His Disciples vs the Children of Jacob as represented by the thrones of the Patriarchs.

That Christians are GRAFTED into the CHOSEN JEWISH NATION vs the other way around.

That our INHERITANCE THROUGH CHRIST OF ABRAHAM’S BLESSINGS affords us all those blessings—AS ABRAHAM’S SEED BY ADOPTION, BLOOD BROTHERS THROUGH CHRIST’S BLOOD.

Lots of things I don’t know. Those things I do know.


155 posted on 01/25/2010 5:39:28 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: humblegunner

Some folks claim there’s more than 60 ORTHODOX RABBIS in Israel who secretly believe in Jesus as their Messiah.


156 posted on 01/25/2010 5:40:45 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: humblegunner
"It hasn't happened yet" doesn't get it.

Do you believe God is done with the Jews?

157 posted on 01/25/2010 6:06:42 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: humblegunner

Hi Humblegunner,

I know Jewish people who love Christ and serve Him just as we are called to. God is opening the eyes of some of these people to see that the Messiah they have sought has indeed come and will be coming again...and they have accepted Him as their Messiah.... There are some Jewish Christians on FR. as well.

Throughout the ages God has always reserved a remnant, a selected group of Jewish people, despite the armies He brought against them for their disobediance then, and He does so to this day as well..... Because... the covenant God made to Abraham/Israel of was NOT conditional...He would always reserve a remnant, Just as He promised to Abrabham that He would.

If you check the Hisory of the Covenants God made with Israel you will find some were ‘conditional’ covenants others were not. So It’s important one understands these in relation to how Israel stood then, now ,and will in the future.

So there is today a remnant of Believing Jewish people who have accepted Jesus as their Messiah...and they are indeed a pleasure to know...and there will be more to come up until that day.


158 posted on 01/25/2010 6:12:12 PM PST by caww
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To: Dr. North; Quix
...all very apt monikers for the false theology being promoted by those who believe as you do.

What are your eschatological views?

These threads can be a lot of fun and very educational when posters actually present their views and why they hold them.

159 posted on 01/25/2010 6:16:05 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Dr. North

Dear Dr.North, I have always viewed your other posts and respected your opinion and that which you’ve given others because you have always supported that with scripture or at the very least a strong arguement. But as far as I’ve gotten on this thread I have not seen that...this doesn’t seem like you at all....I’m hoping as I get to the end of this thread I will see you has I’ve seen you on other threads..unless of course if it’s someone else posting here using you name?????


160 posted on 01/25/2010 6:18:33 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

INDEED.

THX.


161 posted on 01/25/2010 6:29:14 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: caww

My goodness, kind words towards me here.

Thank you.


162 posted on 01/25/2010 6:48:03 PM PST by Dr. North
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To: wmfights

The path was set a long time ago: to be good with God one must accept Christ.

Theere is no parallel path accorded to those who reject Christ.


163 posted on 01/25/2010 6:50:16 PM PST by Dr. North
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To: Quix

If the Iranian uprisings fail to overthrow the mullahcracy, Israel will act to behead that regime, and not worry for some time about the nuclear weapons program there. Right now Israel is waiting this out, to see if Hitler Jr (Ahmedeadman) is overthrown, or will manage to cling to power. My guess is, he will not be overthrown, and will come through the current crisis stronger than ever.

Also, I would guess that Israel will kill the sorry S.O.B. when he ventures out of Iran on some diplomatic trip. The plane carrying him will simply be shot right out of the sky and drop unremarked into the ocean. The entire Israeli attack squadron will return unscathed. If something goes wrong (if the enroute midair refueling fails for some reason, for example), the squadron will still successfully carry out their mission, and ditch in a prearranged location to be rescued by one or more Israeli subs.

The Saudis will supply some of the necessary intel to enable the Israelis to make the hit.

Removal of a hostile regime in Iran is a necessity to avoid a multifront war and internal uprising by Hamas, Fatah, Hizbollah, Syria, and what passes for the Lebanese army. I have confidence in the Israelis’ ability to defeat their foes, even if it proves terribly costly in lives and treasure.

The way the alliances have shaken out puts a neutral Jordan as a wedge along the eastern frontier of Israel; the Saudis are beset in the south and east by various Shiite groups funded by Iran, and Egypt has been sitting on a longterm buildup of other jihadist terror groups for decades (smart move, Sadat, letting your eventual killers out of prison to balance the hardcore Nasserites), so neither will fire a shot against or tolerate much nonsense along their common borders with Israel.

Turkey and Syria had been continually at each other’s throats (one pretext used by Syria was the Turkish dams on the Euphrates and its tributaries, which largely originate in Turkish territory) but have basically joined forces with Iran (and its proxies in Lebanon); Iraq is in a vise now, and will be in joint talks with those three as soon as US troops have completely left, if not before then.

The Russians are playing all sides, which is a nice safe way to come out on top no matter who wins.

The nest of vipers known as Saudi Arabia has helped spawn a worldwide jihadist movement without any official sponsorship but with the full knowledge of what Ariel Sharon once referred to as “those 3000 corrupt princes”. They’re in bed with the Russians regarding the jihadist groups operating in ever-greater numbers inside Russia’s perennial enemy China.

If the Taliban / al-Qaeda authority links up with Iran (geographically), it’ll be the beginning of the end of Saudi influence in Central Asia, and they know that too.

For that matter, if Iran’s influence becomes dominant among the various rag-tag tribes without flags in the ethnic Pollock painting that is Afghanistan, Pakistan, and various other ‘stans now in turmoil, I would look toward a major power shift when Ahmednutjob (if he’s NOT bumped off by Israel) engineers a major rapprochement with India. It would be a huge coup for India, since its archenemy China has made a lot of inroads over the past thirty or more years, helping the Pakis with their Bomb, building Iran’s communications infrastructure and working/training in its petroleum industry.

Russia would not care who runs the jihadist activity inside China, so out the Saudis would go.

India grows stronger as Pakistan disintegrates, and its only long-term worry is who controls the Paki atomic stockpile. India’s excellent diplomatic relations and military connections with Israel continue to grow. Naturally that could be threatened the instant Iran and India share a rice buffet and sign trade and military cooperation agreements. Among those agreements would be arrangements to secretly cooperate in the dismantling of Pakistan, and continued fragmentation of the rest of Central Asia.

Henry Kissinger and Anwar Sadat used the October 1973 “Yom Kippur” war to simultaneously end conventional warfare against Israel for the foreseeable, as well as to basically eject the Soviets from significant influence in the OPEC countries.

At that time, and starting with the OPEC embargo, Saudi Arabia began its political ascent as well as its serious campaign to spread Islamic rule throughout the Earth — but learned a little history lesson (and not very well did it learn) about how much unity there is in the Islamic world. This was most obvious when the Shah was overthrown in Iran, but Saddam’s stupid miscalculation (the eight year Iran-Iraq war, which cost 100s of 1000s of lives on both sides) and turncoat behavior (not one but two invasions of Kuwait, the latter one being far better known) after having been supported by the Saudis (who could not have been in favor of his precipitous action) and Kuwaitis during the Iran debacle.

It isn’t a coincidence that the Russians and Arabs dismembered the ever-unstable Afghanistan and fought over it for years until the Russians turned tail — and that the battle over it was tied to petroleum development in Central Asia, a restive Islamic population then under Soviet rule, and the overthrow of the Shah.

Even Obama knows that Afghanistan can’t be abandoned — not least because Obama serves the interests of his Saudi masters. And it’s not a coincidence that his choice of VP has spent a few decades wearing a dog collar and eating out of a bowl served up by the Iranian mullahcracy — Obama has pressed for direct negotiations without condition with the Iranian regime.

They weren’t fooled.

Neither are the Israelis.

The Turks have the second largest army in Europe (after Russia’s) and believe they can cope with Iran’s armed forces (and I believe they’re dead wrong; Iran’s army is IMHO the most underrated in the region at least), but seek cooperation for both idealogical reasons and common territorial ambitions (partition of Iraq, or at the least, cooperation in dealing with the Kurds).

The Turks also don’t have any interest in the disintegration of Syria, the prospects for which have been the driving force behind Syria’s lesser-of-two-equals relationship with Iran. Syria got kicked out of Lebanon due to Iranian proxy terrorist activity (Syrian nationals on vacation or on military leaves and whatnot were getting murdered) over a period of some years, and of course the abortive Lebanese independence movement. Syria’s last few assassinations of Lebanese politicians were massively stupid missteps, and led to the loss of an occupied neighboring country that had been a source of revenue.

Turkey and Iran will eventually come to blows, but it will be some years from now. Turkey doesn’t want Syria to become another fragmented failed state, and wants a buffer between itself and the mess that is Lebanon. The prospect of an independent Kurdistan — part of which would be carved out of Syria, Turkey, and Iran, all of which have at least some Kurdish enclaves contiguous with the autonomous Kurdish region in northern Iraq — doesn’t thrill Istanbul.

All this will unfold over years, more than a decade probably.

A good time for Israel to rub out Ahmedinijad would be while he’s on the way to meet with the government of India. But there is no bad time to do it.


164 posted on 01/25/2010 7:28:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I think that’s the best analysis I’ve read anywhere.

I think you would do well to put it in it’s own thread.

Please do so and let me know.

I’ll ping my END TIMES list.

Great job.

Thanks. Very perceptive, imho.

Time will tell, for sure!


165 posted on 01/25/2010 7:45:31 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: SunkenCiv

However,

I do suspect that things are going to be compressed into a much shorter time . . . and . . . sadly for millions . . . much more dramatic than your scenarios.

I hope I’m wrong and you are right.


166 posted on 01/25/2010 8:11:59 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Thanks Quix.


167 posted on 01/25/2010 8:28:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: Quix

I also neglected to mention (thought about it, got distracted and forgot) the recent fly in the ointment, which consists of India’s and China’s joint repudiation of carbon caps and other nonsense at the Copenhagen conference. Israel has resold some US military technology to China in the past, and all things considered, they have more in common with each other than with the crazy Muzzie despotates and terrorist groups. It can’t be hopeful to China that its former ally, Pakistan, is disintegrating. Pakistan represented one of the few successes China had in trying to break the Soviet policy of containment (analogous to US policy toward the USSR) of China, and rapprochement with India will probably be the big story, rather than an Iranian-Indian deal.


168 posted on 01/25/2010 8:38:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


169 posted on 01/25/2010 8:38:34 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting.

thanks.


170 posted on 01/25/2010 8:40:07 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Dr. North

When the last shot has been fired and the dust settles, Israel will occupy every square inch thatr God promised them.Jersalem is where Jesus will rule from David’s throne for a thousand years.


171 posted on 01/25/2010 9:20:46 PM PST by sport
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To: Dr. North

It is what the Bible says. Whether you subscribe to it or not is irrlevant.


172 posted on 01/25/2010 9:23:08 PM PST by sport
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To: sport

Wrong. That won’t happen.


173 posted on 01/25/2010 9:23:41 PM PST by Dr. North
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To: sport

You are wrong.

About a great many things.


174 posted on 01/25/2010 9:24:19 PM PST by Dr. North
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To: humblegunner
So Israel, in rejecting Christ, is damned.

That is different than "chosen".

There is your opinion. Then we have God telling Israel:

"For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession." (Deut. 7:6)

So, as much as you want to cling to your hate, God has different plans for His people.

Israel, as a nation, will not be damned, but will be brought back to God.

No matter what you would like to see happen to them.

175 posted on 01/25/2010 11:49:56 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
So, as much as you want to cling to your hate

Please point out any indications of this "hate" and I shall be happy to address them.

Or are you just making things up to suit your agenda?

176 posted on 01/26/2010 7:18:08 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: GiovannaNicoletta; humblegunner
Israel, as a nation, will not be damned, but will be brought back to God.

Just a thought, but Israel pays a terrible price for it's disobedience, which is actually a blessing for us. God has provided for our salvation by grace through faith and during this time that we are being brought into Jesus' flock they are not because of their disbelief. It is the Tribulation that ultimately opens their eyes. Amillenialists miss this point because of their belief we have replaced Israel and God is done with them.

177 posted on 01/26/2010 7:43:51 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights
For many, by all indications, Israel is their new god.

That's idolatry.

178 posted on 01/26/2010 12:41:36 PM PST by Dr. North
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Say to the current residents of Israel, “You all need to accept Christ!”.

See how they react.

They reject Christ.

They can change that if they want to, but most will clearly communicate that they do not want to.


179 posted on 01/26/2010 12:46:11 PM PST by Dr. North
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To: humblegunner
Please point out any indications of this "hate" and I shall be happy to address them.

No problem.

The Jews, who do not accept Christ, and according to John 14:6 cannot enter heaven, can not therefor be His "chosen people".

It just torques me to see the Jews, who do NOT accept Christ, flouted as the "chosen people"

Well, they had just better not come around ME spouting that “chosen people” malarkey when they fail to accept Christ.

Scripture records that the 144,000 Jews will be singing a song no others can sing.

The Macarena takes practice, but in the end.. anyone can sing it.

Jews reject Jesus.

Need there be any more said than that?

I'm not about to run up to anyone who rejects Jesus and call them "God's chosen" or assume they are saved.

So Israel, in rejecting Christ, is damned.

That is different than "chosen".

To reject the clear, unambiguous Scripture where God leaves no doubt whatsoever that the Jews are His chosen people, the people through whom He brought forth our Savior, takes hatred. There is no other way someone would take such a foolish risk.

And you know what? It's nobody's business what the Jews do with Jesus Christ and it's nobody's place to hate them because of what one may think of the current, short-lived, spiritual condition of the Jewish people. If it wasn't for the Jews, we wouldn't have Jesus Christ. I know you like to discard Scripture you don't like, but unfortunately there is the little piece about God cursing those who curse the Jews. That applies to everyone and God means what He says.

The Jews are God's business, and God's business alone and never did He give anyone the authority to judge the Jewish people based on bias and hatred. They are His chosen people. It's as simple as that, and it's His place, not any human being's, to deal with them.

They are not going to be damned, they're going to be brought back to God and saved.

Whether you like it or not.

180 posted on 01/26/2010 1:15:12 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Dr. North
The Scripture on this was posted awhile ago, but since you have decided, in your infinite human wisdom, to discard at least one of the books God wrote, I don't expect you to understand any of the others.

Including the part where God states that the Jews are His chosen people and how they will come back to Him and be saved.

You're on your own.

181 posted on 01/26/2010 1:29:38 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I am with reality.


182 posted on 01/26/2010 1:43:37 PM PST by Dr. North
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To: Quix; Alamo-Girl
I'm giving thanks to God for your beautiful essay/post, dearest brother in Christ!

Somehow I feel sure you'd want it that way.

May He ever bless you, and all your loved ones!

183 posted on 01/26/2010 1:47:04 PM PST by betty boop (Malevolence wears the false face of honesty. — Tacitus)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
To reject the clear, unambiguous Scripture where God leaves no doubt whatsoever that the Jews are His chosen people, the people through whom He brought forth our Savior, takes hatred.

No, it requires only reading ability.

If it wasn't for the Jews, we wouldn't have Jesus Christ.

He's only Jewish on His mother's side.

The Jews are God's business, and God's business alone and never did He give anyone the authority to judge the Jewish people based on bias and hatred.

I still haven't seen evidence of hatred.
Indifference, maybe. Certainly no predisposition to
embrace any group of non-Christians.

They are His chosen people.

So what are Christians then? We accept Christ while they
do not, yet they are chosen? I takes "hate" to ask this?

they're going to be brought back to God

AH! So they have departed from God? How could they be "brought back" otherwise?

184 posted on 01/26/2010 1:49:44 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: Dr. North

That’s debatable.


185 posted on 01/26/2010 1:50:56 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: humblegunner
No, it requires only reading ability.

Well then you need to get someone to read Scripture to you because if you can't see where God clearly states that the Jews are His chosen people then you don't have reading ability.

He's only Jewish on His mother's side.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt on this and take it as a joke. Nobody can be that ignorant.

I still haven't seen evidence of hatred. Indifference, maybe. Certainly no predisposition to embrace any group of non-Christians.

Of course you haven't. Everyone discards the Scripture about God's love for the Jews and the fact that they are the nation He created especially to bring Christ into the world. Everyone takes it upon themselves to judge God's people. It's not hatred. Really.

So what are Christians then? We accept Christ while they do not, yet they are chosen? I takes "hate" to ask this?

They are chosen. If they die without knowing Christ as Savior, they go to hell. They lived for 2000 years without their own country, being persecuted and hunted and slaughtered because of their stubborn disobedience and their rejection of their Messiah. They are the most despised group of people on the face of the earth.

They are still chosen. Not because of them, not because they are somehow magical, but because of God and His faithfulness for the eternal covenants He made with Abraham. They are loved by God, not because of them, but because of Him. And He has loved them through all the centuries of disobedience and rejection and unbelief and the day is coming soon when He will remove the blindness from their eyes, and they will realize what they have done, and they will come back to Him.

And, it is still none of our business. This is God's affair and the only thing we need to know is that they are the apple of His eye, and we are to love them. The time is coming, after all, when the Gentiles will no longer run the show and the Jews will be extremely esteemed people.

That day is on it's way.

AH! So they have departed from God? How could they be "brought back" otherwise?

Yes, they have departed from God as they have throughout history and God will bring them back to Himself as He has throughout their history.

It's difficult to reconcile calling oneself a Christian yet harboring hatred toward His people and rejecting what He has said about His love for His people and His plan for His people.

Something maybe to pray about.

186 posted on 01/26/2010 2:19:18 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
In your fourth paragraph you fail to answer the key question.

Something maybe to pray about.

Perhaps so.

187 posted on 01/26/2010 2:23:51 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Nope, everything was answered.


188 posted on 01/26/2010 2:26:27 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

This is a debate forum.


189 posted on 01/26/2010 4:22:49 PM PST by Dr. North
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

There is a true Christianity which has no need of idolatry of Israel, and no need of paradoxically endorsing a different religion which willfully rejects Christ.


190 posted on 01/26/2010 4:52:47 PM PST by Dr. North
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To: betty boop

Your kind words, Dear Sister in Christ, touch and humble me deeply. I had no idea you’d bother with my poor words.

Thanks much.

BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.


191 posted on 01/26/2010 5:06:13 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: sport

AGREED.

Though sometimes, it seems to me that Scriptures indicate that

. . . David will rule from David’s throne . . . over Israel

And Christ will rule over all Creation from there.

Lots to discover then! LOL.


192 posted on 01/26/2010 5:08:38 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Dr. North

I find your perspective

terminally, horribly UNBiblically wholesale

WRONG.

You have avoided Zech and Daniel.

You trash Revelation.

Evidently you Trash Romans 11 and Hebrews.

Just how much of your Shredded Bible is left that you really trust as God’s Word?


193 posted on 01/26/2010 5:10:15 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Dr. North

GOD ALMIGHTY HAS DECLARED

THAT AS LONG AS THERE ARE STARS, SUN AND MOON

HIS PROMISES TO ISRAEL—BLOOD ISRAEL—REMAIN IN FORCE.

I’m sure HE’S impressed with your telling

HIM—ALMIGHTY GOD, THAT HE DIDN’T MEAN THAT.

LOL to the max.


194 posted on 01/26/2010 5:11:38 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: wmfights

INDEED.


195 posted on 01/26/2010 5:12:47 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Characteristically, you remain in the darkness of being utterly incorrect.


196 posted on 01/26/2010 5:14:01 PM PST by Dr. North
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To: Dr. North; wmfights; Amityschild; Blogger; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

Would be . . . if it were true.

Which, it’s WHOLESALE NOT TRUE . . .

I don’t know of a single FREEPER who idolizes Israel in the least.

We just have the GOOD HORSE SENSE

TO BELIEVE ALMIGHTY GOD

WHEN ALMIGHTY GOD DECLARES THAT THOSE WHO BLESS THE CHILDREN OF JACOB WILL BE BLESSED.

AND THOSE WHO CUR5SE OR TROUBLE ISRAEL WILL BE CURSED OR TROUBLED.

That may be mystifying theology to some . . .

It’s pretty clear to those of us who have the minimal sense necessary to TAKE GOD AT HIS WORD.

. . . KIND OF LIKE . . . David did, Elisha did, Daniel did, Paul did, Luke did, John did . . .


197 posted on 01/26/2010 5:17:26 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Nobody can be that ignorant.

= = = =

I used to think that before I lived hereon! LOL.


198 posted on 01/26/2010 5:19:59 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

This is God’s affair and the only thing we need to know is that they are the apple of His eye, and we are to love them. The time is coming, after all, when the Gentiles will no longer run the show and the Jews will be extremely esteemed people.

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INDEED!

Though the CHRISTIAN BLOOD BROTHERS GRAFTED IN TO THE JEWISH TREE

will likely have some pretty important positions as well . . . there ARE 12 Israelite Partiarch thrones AND 12 DISCIPLES’ thrones . . . kind of implies an equal and parallel role for Christian heirs of Abraham.


199 posted on 01/26/2010 5:22:27 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Dr. North

And your coy, cryptic, mostly non-communications are supposed to be a demonstration of some sort of

. . . what . . .

secret NON-debating . . . . silent . . . CODE????


200 posted on 01/26/2010 5:23:49 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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