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Health care debate: Two views of liberty (Palin & conservatives vs. The Left)
The Minneapolis Star-Tribune ^ | July 3, 2012 | Michael Fuerstein

Posted on 07/03/2012 7:29:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

'Obama lies; freedom dies." That was Sarah Palin's tweeted response to last week's Supreme Court decision upholding President Obama's Affordable Care Act. Ultimately, the ruling turned less on lofty principles than on a narrow interpretive distinction. But as Palin's tweet suggests, the court's decision ultimately bears on broader questions about our national ideal of freedom.

To appreciate this point requires a brief excursion into political philosophy.

In concluding his defense of the Affordable Care Act, Solicitor General Donald B. Verrilli Jr. argued that access to health care would "unshackle" citizens from the "disabilities" of bad health, thus giving them "the opportunity to enjoy the blessings of liberty." In response, representing the states contesting the law, Paul D. Clement dismissed this argument, noting "that it's a very funny conception of liberty that forces somebody to purchase an insurance policy whether they want it or not."

Clement's response nicely captures the essence of a broad-based conservative attack: Health care reform restricts individual choice through government intervention, and any government restriction on individual choice is an assault on individual freedom. Freedom, on this view, simply means freedom from government interference, and government interference, therefore, is at best a necessary evil to be minimized wherever possible...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: obama; obamacare; palin; socializedmedicine

1 posted on 07/03/2012 7:29:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hell the mandate is only one part of all the fascist provisions

If the voters knew what was in those 2000 plus pages they wouldn’t be sleeping well this 4th of July Eve

2 posted on 07/03/2012 7:32:21 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: uncbob

I had a great fight with the libs on Huffington Compost today. They were all bent out of shape because North Carolina was closing a Planned Parenthood. I told them to remember what Obama told Bart Stupak. Vote for Obamacare and I promise abortions won’t be covered.

Well, since Obama lied and went back on his word, there is no longer a need for Planned Parenthood because now a woman can go to any doctor and have an abortion.

Oh... I was called a racist and I also hate women.

3 posted on 07/03/2012 7:38:20 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: Norm Lenhart
'Obama lies; freedom dies."

Paging Norm, you still want to think she likes your position?

4 posted on 07/03/2012 7:47:45 PM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt, the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Leftists use the “Racist” BS card every single time they are shown to be wrong on an issue..oh and the “Hate” women garbage that they say, its funny that they say they are the party that cares about women..they really show it with the disgusting tweets and facebook comments they leave Sarah Palin and Michelle Malkin every single day

5 posted on 07/03/2012 7:52:25 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's worth reading the entire article. One cannot win a war without understanding the enemy, and this guy speaks for America's enemies.

In carrying out these interventions, governments engage in coercion through laws that interfere with individual decisions, as the Affordable Care Act would do. But in these cases the freedom to be left alone would be no real freedom at all, since the goods produced by government interference are essential to the possibility of valuable options in life. That is the point that Sarah Palin is missing.

We already have universal access to medical care in the United States. Any illegal alien, any poor uninsured minimum wage worker, and any other American can already show up at the emergency room and get treated for self-identified medical emergencies regardless of ability to pay. They lie when they imply that this is about medical care. It's about equality of outcomes - making sure we all get equal service at the doctor's office, just as we do with the IRS or the Department of Motor Vehicles. It's all about socialism and power, not helping the poor, and once government controls our access to medical care, they have a very big hammer to control our actions, since government can choose when some will be more equal than others.

6 posted on 07/04/2012 6:38:57 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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