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Capretta & Levin: Finding the Insurance “Requirement” Unconstitutional May Undermine Obamacare
volokh ^ | 7 16 12

Posted on 07/16/2012 7:39:03 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch

To uphold the Affordable Care Act, Chief Justice Roberts adopted a “saving construction” in which he deleted the “requirement” that all non-exempt Americans buy health insurance, leaving only the “penalty,” which he then recharacterized as a tax. The next day, in my Washington Examiner essay, Roberts decision didn’t open floodgates for ‘compulsion through taxation’, I contended that it was a serious misreading of the opinion to say that the individual insurance mandate had been upheld under the Tax power. Instead, the law had been rewritten to eliminate the mandate, leaving only the penalty. Some questioned the meaningfulness of this distinction.

Today, in their essay, The Mandate After the Court, James Capretta & Yuval Levin explain how this aspect of Roberts’ unique opinion weakens the already weak penalties, thereby undermining the statute’s ability to prevent the insurance death spiral its other insurance company regulations will cause.

The CBO clearly understood the mandate to consist of the federal government ordering people to buy coverage. In a 2010 paper explaining its assessment of the mandate, the agency said the law meant that “nearly every resident of the United States will be required to have health insurance coverage.” That paper also makes clear that the CBO understood the mandate and the penalty as two distinct if related components of the law, each with its own effect on public behavior, and that the fact of the mandate as a legal requirement was very important. The effects of the mandate would not just be a matter of math but would be influenced by people’s inclination to be honest and “their desire to comply with the law” ordering them to buy coverage….

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: constitution; healthcare; individualmandate; obamacare; penalty; tax; taxes; undermine
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1 posted on 07/16/2012 7:39:11 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks InvisibleChurch.


2 posted on 07/16/2012 7:49:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Roberts adopted kids were threatened so he paid his dues, to Obama.

There never was a more dirtier deed do’er than Obama/


3 posted on 07/16/2012 7:50:50 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: InvisibleChurch

‘Instead, the law had been rewritten to eliminate the mandate,’

In other words Roberts violated the Constitution TWICE in one ruling: first by not striking down the entire law under the commerce clause as unconstitutional: second by acting as a one man super legislature and writing and implementing laws. What reason is there not to impeach this jack wagon!?


4 posted on 07/16/2012 7:50:53 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town
I think he got the four to sign off on the CC limit with out recalling that there are other appeals out there and as a member of the majority he could review the case.
5 posted on 07/16/2012 8:11:50 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: Jim from C-Town

BUMP!


6 posted on 07/16/2012 8:55:10 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Jim from C-Town
Let me ask you this, Jim...what question was the Court asked to answer?
Here, let me help you...

@Merit Briefs
@Brief for Respondents on Severability
@Reply Brief for Respondent's on Severability

Use the "Search" function and look up "question".

7 posted on 07/16/2012 9:57:02 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
Use the “Search” function and look up “question”

I'd rather not. Roberts treachery needs no further explanation than the lawless embrace of tyranny by a statist central government.

8 posted on 07/16/2012 11:51:32 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

bump!


9 posted on 07/17/2012 12:07:28 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: Jim from C-Town
I'd rather not.
Really?! I tell ya, I'm shocked at your total lack of interest!
If you're going to rail against something shouldn't you at least be informed about what you're railing against just in case someone confronts you?

Roberts treachery needs no further explanation than the lawless embrace of tyranny by a statist central government.
My, my, yet another "Two Minutes Hate".

10 posted on 07/17/2012 12:21:33 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Yeah, Still don’t care to read it.

Thanks anyway. Sorry you had to do all that searching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAqxWa9Rbe0


11 posted on 07/17/2012 1:10:55 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town
I understand. Ignorance is bliss, and you're completely elated.
12 posted on 07/17/2012 7:22:55 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

I could always read up and become more learned.

You will always be an asshole!


13 posted on 07/19/2012 10:08:14 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town
You will always be an asshole!
Yeah for me! You've just admitted that while I may be an asshole I'm not an ignorant asshole!
14 posted on 07/19/2012 10:27:54 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

No, just a straight up asshole.

You wear it well.


15 posted on 07/19/2012 10:30:25 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town
You wear it well.
You wear your coat of ignorance poorly.
It'll never keep you warm or keep the rain off.
16 posted on 07/19/2012 11:04:07 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
I do not need to learn from the web sites to which you linked. That is why I didn't care to read them. they and you are a waste of my limited and valuable time.

I do not need to know more about WHY Roberts chose to break his vow to God and rewrite legislation and ignore an easily understood document like the Constitution. He decided to do so. That in and of itself, is reason enough to hold this jack wagon up to an impeachment. Regardless if the Senate would ever convict and remove.

The citizenry has every right to expect the SCOTUS to rule in a CONSTITUTIONAL and, possibly more importantly, a CONSISTANT manner. The need for reams of paper to put to bed the issue that the Federal Government does or doesn't have the right to force a citizen in a free society to engage in economic activity with a third party or face a penalty/tax/tax/penalty, Whatever, doesn't take a JD from HAAAAAAAARVARD or even a law degree. It is COMMON SENSE. That is why so few lawyers and other practitioners of the lying arts can't figure it out. That is also why, since this morally bankrupt Chief Justice has decided that the government CAN cause a person to be penalized/taxed for NOT doing something, it is reasonable to assume that we no longer live in a free society.

Your desire to somehow PROVE that he did anything reasonable, or even sane, in his ruling is tiring.

Simply calling someone ignorant doesn't make it so, but judging from your history on this site, there seems to be a consensus that you are indeed an asshole, ignorant or otherwise.

17 posted on 07/19/2012 11:53:52 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town
I do not need to learn from the web sites to which you linked.
Sounds more like you don't want to learn anything.

These are your words...I could always read up and become more learned.
You could, but you won't.
Keeping yourself ignorant allows you to continue in the same manner you are now.

Simply calling someone ignorant doesn't make it so...
Nope, your own words and inaction make it so. It's your own doing, not mine.

...but judging from your history on this site, there seems to be a consensus that you are indeed an asshole, ignorant or otherwise.
Oh, my! I'm supposed to be worried about some nebulous "consensus"?
I'll not be Delphi'd! (Using the Delphi Technique to Achieve Consensus)
Not working on me, Mr. Facilitator.

18 posted on 07/20/2012 12:34:34 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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