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California Board Blocks Chick-fil-A Opening
CBN News ^ | August 9, 2012

Posted on 08/09/2012 8:42:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The gay marriage controversy may now be standing in the way of a new Chik-fil-A opening in California.

This week, five members of Santa Barbara's architectural board abstained from approving a landscaping plan for a restaurant. The move essentially halts the project from moving forward.

City Councilman Frank Hotchkiss condemned the board and requested its members resign.

"For a group thats supposed to working on architectural benefits for the city to just stop what they're doing because of their political views is outrageous," he said.

Board member Gary Mosel disagreed with Hotchkiss.

"I feel he's jumping the gun, and not knowing the situation and asking for our resignation is not a fair assessment," he said.

Mosel admitted he abstained from the vote because he's a member of two gay and lesbian groups. But he said each board member has their own reasons for not voting.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bluezones; california; chickfila; facism; frankhotchkiss; garymosel; gaymarriage; gaystapo; homofascists; homosexualagenda; kenyanbornmuzzie; liberalfascism; mayor; pedophiles; santabarbara; sodomhusseinobama; swrdswllwngsdshw

1 posted on 08/09/2012 8:42:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Faggot Nazis


2 posted on 08/09/2012 8:45:17 PM PDT by Lockbar (I promise to move fire-wood twice a day.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, I’m glad that there is no such barrier to the opening of the San Jose and Walnut Creek stores.


3 posted on 08/09/2012 8:46:04 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They need to sue the city. It will be solved in a ny minute


4 posted on 08/09/2012 8:46:36 PM PDT by ncfool (OMG 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If we have patience, through abortion and Obama care, these guys will all fade away over time,


5 posted on 08/09/2012 8:48:04 PM PDT by llevrok (2012 : Elect Adults)
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To: Lockbar
"Faggot Nazis"

Victorious Faggot Nazis.


6 posted on 08/09/2012 8:52:13 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These guys are all against the 1%
Well, they only represent the 2%

The 98% of homeowners in that town - who will have better/more stable property taxes because this business wants to build there - should get a bit uppity...


7 posted on 08/09/2012 8:52:50 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The hate from liberals is unbelievable.


8 posted on 08/09/2012 8:53:27 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: llevrok

Good one.

Someone here posted a graphic.

Had the swastika and words saying homo nazis we’re back and fabulous. Paraphrasing here.


9 posted on 08/09/2012 8:53:42 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And all this time I thought Chik-fil-A was the latest slasher movie out out of Hollywood; I gotta get out more...

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10 posted on 08/09/2012 8:55:25 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They should rename Cancer.

I’m sorry, it looks like you have Terminal Liberal.


11 posted on 08/09/2012 8:56:57 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Republicans Hope people are Smart, but Democrats Know people are Stupid.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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12 posted on 08/09/2012 8:59:36 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

it is most certainly time to get these jerks out of office LONG OVERDUE.


13 posted on 08/09/2012 8:59:36 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: ncfool

Except it takes about 3 years to get through our Court system here.


14 posted on 08/09/2012 9:00:17 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: ncfool
They need to sue the city. It will be solved in a ny minute

Government discrimination based on religious convictions? Sounds like a federal civil rights lawsuit if there ever was one.

15 posted on 08/09/2012 9:09:35 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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16 posted on 08/09/2012 9:14:20 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Ambition Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Having been through stuff like this with developers trying to tear down Historic Houses to build condo developments,I can tell you that if City Councils or Planning Boards are determined one way or another on a case like this, they can damn well do anything they want, anywhere in the process, to either approve or disapprove a developer/entrepreneur’s plans.
These things can and do take 2-5 years to reach a conclusion in municipalities. The ONLY way to guarantee this place will be built, and built because it SHOULD be built, is for an engaged civic activist group to get involved, work every day for it, and against those who want to stop it, question and expose their political motives, make an argument on a practical level for why it will be good for the area, etc.,etc. Make noise, get publicity, flood your town’s monthly meeting with a few hundred people, and not give up.
That is the only way you’ll win. Otherwise the opposition will play with nonsense like “the landscaping plan doesn’t coincide with our Master Plan or our Building Codes”.
And when they lose that argument they will move on to some other “reason”. Luckily, their time is running out, and their boy will not be in office after November.


17 posted on 08/09/2012 9:20:37 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Funny how religious persecution is just peachy when it comes from a protected “victim” group on the left.

You would think they would be the first ones to support the rights of others.

(not)


18 posted on 08/09/2012 9:23:23 PM PDT by Tigerized ("..and whack 'em, and whack 'em, and whack 'em!' cried the Toad in ecstasy." (also my 2012 strategy))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Houston, I think we’ve had a First Amendment violation here.”


19 posted on 08/09/2012 9:25:32 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Facist. CFA should sue all of them under their constitutional rights. Rahm et al included.


20 posted on 08/09/2012 9:25:44 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are useless and useful idiots.)
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To: Fledermaus
"Facist."


21 posted on 08/09/2012 9:30:11 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
City Councilman Frank Hotchkiss condemned the board and requested its members resign.

Councilman Hotchkiss is right on the money. Slap these wackos down fast and furiously. No mercy and no excuses accepted. Can't stay focused on your job, resign and find a kissing gig somewhere.

22 posted on 08/09/2012 9:33:07 PM PDT by Col Freeper (FR: A smorgasbord of Conservative Mindfood - dig in and enjoy it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I feel he’s jumping the gun, and not knowing the situation and asking for our resignation is not a fair assessment,” he said.

Mosel admitted he abstained from the vote because he’s a member of two gay and lesbian groups. But he said each board member has their own reasons for not voting.

With all the S’s in those three sentences, I bet he was lisping and spitting all over the place


23 posted on 08/09/2012 9:33:16 PM PDT by Figment
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A good lawsuit and lot's of discovery will get the government's attention.
24 posted on 08/09/2012 9:34:11 PM PDT by NOezmoney (If OBozo destroys America, and the media doesnÂ’t report it, will it even make a sound?)
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To: bicyclerepair

25 posted on 08/09/2012 9:41:43 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds like the perfect reason for a law suit against the city council for religious persecution.

“The owner of the company is Christian, and his affirmation of those Christian beliefs resulted in the governmental attack on our business.”

It should be filed in federal court.

Mark


26 posted on 08/09/2012 9:57:41 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: MarkL

And they should sue for financial damages, incurred in the delays, as well as the delay in opening for business.

Mark


27 posted on 08/09/2012 10:02:11 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Old Sarge
That is a good graphic. Geeeez-is this America anymore? PC has gone wild. Disgusting. What do we have next? Every CEO of every company having to pass a nazi ‘viewpoint’ exam before they are allowed to grow their respective business?
28 posted on 08/09/2012 10:18:18 PM PDT by Republic (Keep uhbama desperate - seems to force slips of honesty from his angry interior)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If only there were an organization of lawyers who would file 1st amendment violation cases against these little dictators of tolerance and do it Pro Bono. Oh wait, isn't that what the ACLU claims it was founded to do?
29 posted on 08/09/2012 10:29:21 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: Old Sarge

Nothing more dangerous than a Gaystapo armed with heavy U.S. military weapons. I can see them now, saying to 0bama, “We’ve got your back, thir.”


30 posted on 08/09/2012 11:21:18 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bookmark


31 posted on 08/09/2012 11:22:36 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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BOYCOTT THILLY THANTA BARBARA!
32 posted on 08/09/2012 11:23:55 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: supremedoctrine
Yep, about 12 years ago, my local board stopped my development plans for a new shopping center. After my 6th submittal to the board, they refused my proposal and their basis of denial was that my landscaping design was, ‘too French’. Whatever the heck that means.

Actually, it was two lesbo board members that struck down my plans. Funny thing was, when I asked for an explanation of what ‘too French’ means, they simply informed me that it was not their position to design the landscape and that was all they had to say on the matter.

Architectural review boards can/ are a pain in the butt. Most are controlled by libs with too much time on their hands.

33 posted on 08/09/2012 11:44:34 PM PDT by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In my opinion, Chic-Fil-A should cut its losses immediately and run - - don’t walk - - away from that place without so much as a word. Just flat-out disappear from that sick toilet and make it like you were never there. Dead serious (unsolicited) advice.


34 posted on 08/09/2012 11:50:54 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: redshawk

I once had a hearing before a municipal “Technical Review Board” where I was appealing for a waiver for something that would have cost me a ton if I had to include it in my building plans. One Wednesday evening I met the board at a room in the local township hall and saw that one of the four members was a guy whose grandson I coached at baseball for many years. He came to most of the games and so we knew each other.

My waiver got approved.


35 posted on 08/10/2012 12:01:45 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Glad to hear your project moved forward.

It's not what you know, it WHO you know that really matters.

Although I've had that happen to me in many of my developments and I would always feel glad when I was approved, and most bitter when not; I still don't like it.

Years ago while in college, I conducted surveys of local governing boards as a school project. Anyhow, days when I shaved and dressed in a suit, I was given coffee....days later, at the same place (wearing tee shirt, blue jeans, and unshaven) security was called.

Have you read about the Dallas Cop and his Chick-Fil-A nightmare?

36 posted on 08/10/2012 12:26:41 AM PDT by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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To: Revolting cat!

That is one spooky pic. Dang!


37 posted on 08/10/2012 12:29:44 AM PDT by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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To: Lancey Howard
In my opinion, Chic-Fil-A should cut its losses immediately and run - - don’t walk - - away from that place without so much as a word. Just flat-out disappear from that sick toilet and make it like you were never there. Dead serious (unsolicited) advice.

Ok, so you are calling 'Uncle' to the libs and to the Constitution?

This type of thinking is exactly what 0pansy, Pelosi, Reid and let's not for get about ChuckyShummer and the rest of the OURcorruptGANG wants you to do. Just Give-UP. Or, better yet, OBEY.

38 posted on 08/10/2012 12:40:15 AM PDT by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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To: redshawk

Don’t be naive. You would fight to locate a franchise where you’re not wanted? That toilet is the only available opening for a new Chic-Fil-A? Remind me not to let you run any businesses for me.


39 posted on 08/10/2012 12:55:50 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: fella

Need to establish a REAL-ACLU that tows completely to the constitutional line. Put the commies out of business.


40 posted on 08/10/2012 12:58:48 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Lancey Howard
Don’t be naive. You would fight to locate a franchise where you’re not wanted? That toilet is the only available opening for a new Chic-Fil-A? Remind me not to let you run any businesses for me.

Naive my butt, Sounds like you would give up your freedom to appease a group that hates GOD and worships 0pansy. Where do you stop bending over? Are you willing to burn GOD and the Constitution as well? I truly hope not. Howard, you truly seem like you have strayed from GOD.

I will help you come back to GOD.

41 posted on 08/10/2012 1:34:54 AM PDT by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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To: redshawk
Naive my butt, Sounds like you would give up your freedom to appease a group that hates GOD and worships 0pansy. Where do you stop bending over? Are you willing to burn GOD and the Constitution as well? I truly hope not. Howard, you truly seem like you have strayed from GOD.

I didn't read that into his post at all. It's more a question of whether to fight this flagrant violation of the First Amendment in the courts or to allow Santa Barbara to suffer the natural consequences of turning away jobs and business. Eventually, California will die of self-inflicted wounds, and simple walking away and shaking the dust off your feet allows them to make that happen more quickly. In this instance, I'm with you that we should fight evil directly. They should be sued for both permission and for damages, with both the city and the individuals who made this un-American decision held liable.

42 posted on 08/10/2012 3:01:19 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: supremedoctrine

No kidding. Local zoning boards are the closest thing to commissars that I have ever dealt with. Just horrible. And you have to stand there and say, “please sir...can I have another?”


43 posted on 08/10/2012 5:09:44 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would sell the land to some hazardous waste disposal company for a few pennies and tell Santa Barbara to kiss my ass if they want any chicken.


44 posted on 08/10/2012 5:14:22 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: supremedoctrine

Good points. What this illustrates is the danger of over-regulation. What you described can extend to everything we do as regulations grow.


45 posted on 08/10/2012 5:49:51 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought CA was against racism. Then again the state did allow a perverted homosexual to stalk and sexually harass a normal kid. That kid was forced to take action on his own, ending in the killing of a sexual predator homosexual.


46 posted on 08/10/2012 6:58:22 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: ncfool
They need to sue the city. It will be solved in a ny minute

Maybe not. The penultimate California example is Half Moon Bay. They went to the wall and lost big time.

47 posted on 08/10/2012 7:16:09 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: ncfool

They need to sue the city. It will be solved in a ny minute


Nah, Councilman Hotchkiss just needs to invite the Chik-Fil-A mobile lunch wagon to Santa Barbara on an upcoming Saturday afternoon. I am sure a thousand of us would show up. I will. Be sure to invite the rest of the S.B. pols to witness how much potential tax receipts to the city’s coffers.

At some point, we could all start chanting “ Eat Mor Chicken “ with the same cadence like at baseball games where the fans chant “ Let’s Go (local-team-name-here) “.


48 posted on 08/10/2012 11:37:44 AM PDT by AlexisHeavyMetal1981 (Eat Mor Chikin)
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