Paul Ryan no help to Mitt Romney with Hispanics

What this shows is that it took them two days rewrite their, “Rubio won’t really help Romney win the latino vote” article to fit Paul Ryan.

LOL!

So true.

“My hispanic car detailer picked up my car this morning and we had a ten minute conversation about how bad BO is.

He said his entire family is voting for R and R.”

Yep. Middle-class is middle-class, regardless of ethnicity or skin color. Our interests are the same, regardless of ethnicity or skin color.

The middle-class is the ultimate egalitarian class. That’s why the Obammunists are trying to destroy the middle-class. Because the Obammunists can maintain power only by fostering class warfare, and by definition, the middle-class sits in the middle, and you can’t foster warfare from the middle.

I think it is funny when pundits try to compare Hispanics with blacks, politically. Blacks are a guaranteed Democrat vote, more fool they, because that means neither Republicans nor Democrats have to give a squat what they think.

Hispanics, however, are not a guaranteed vote any more than whites are. They like some things about both parties, and dislike other things. So it is always a haggle to win them over. And unlike blacks, who thrive on promises alone, Hispanics demand results, so can be electorally fickle.

Most of us missed those years that the republicans won the "fickle" Hispanic results, what were those years that the guaranteed Hispanic vote did not deliver for the Democrats?

Most Cuban-Americans and Venezuelan-Americans tend to support the Republican Party, while Mexican-Americans, Puerto Ricans, and Dominican-Americans tend to support the Democratic Party. But Mexican-Americans are 64% of all Hispanics, so dominate the results.

In the 2010 midterm elections, 60% of Hispanics voted Democratic, while 38% voted Republican.

According to an October 2010 report by the Pew Hispanic Center, Hispanics rank education, jobs, and health care as their top three issues of concern. Immigration ranks as the fourth most important issue for all Latinos.

Republicans have long maintained their party is a natural fit for Hispanics, particularly recent immigrants, because of the party’s social conservatism, anti-abortion stance and positions for private school vouchers and other school choice proposals as well as lower taxes.

(However, ironically, long-time immigrants increasingly lean Republican, often because the Democrats just cannot get it through their heads that Hispanics are not just a variety of lighter-skinned blacks, so the Democrats can take them for granted, and they will respond to similar patronizing promises that are never delivered.)

The most Hispanic-savvy Republicans are the Texans, who understand Mexican-Americans a lot better than most Republicans.

For example, many Mexican-Americans are in favor of tighter border controls, *unless* the advocates of these controls tinge their arguments in anti-Mexican (ethnic) terms. They are very sensitive to prejudice directed against them, and it can turn them against anyone.

Importantly, Mexicans integrate differently depending on where they settle, and their new home does have an effect on their political leanings. For example in Los Angeles they can easily ghettoize, and not integrate at all, which favors Democrats. But in Phoenix, they have to integrate, living and working around whites, and they integrate quickly and prefer Republicans.

Hispanics, however, are not a guaranteed vote any more than whites are. They like some things about both parties, and dislike other things. So it is always a haggle to win them over. And unlike blacks, who thrive on promises alone, Hispanics demand results, so can be electorally fickle.

It was a simple enough request.

What were those years that the guaranteed Hispanic vote did not deliver for the Democrats?

I think you are reading too much into the word “Hispanic”, as I pointed out. Mexicans deliver democratic, but only by 14%. But Cubans and Venezuelans have long delivered Republican.

If you lump them together as the Hispanic vote, they lean Democrat, but not by much, only because the Mexicans outnumber the others.

To make things more confusing, Hispanics as a whole are less inclined to vote than whites or blacks. This hides their political support.

So the answer is “no”, they don’t deliver to either party.

At least not yet.

I know about the Hispanic vote, and while it is nice that you too know the nuances in some of it’s regionalism, and related to national origin, your post 23 was absurd.

The Hispanic vote is dependably democrat and will be in 2012.

You can talk about the variations of, and local elections involving Hispanics but you can not make this ridiculous claim, “”Hispanics, however, are not a guaranteed vote any more than whites are. They like some things about both parties, and dislike other things. So it is always a haggle to win them over. And unlike blacks, who thrive on promises alone, Hispanics demand results, so can be electorally fickle.””

“Hispanics “ON WELFARE” will vote two to one for Dems regardless of who the VP nominee is. The gain for the Reps with Ryan is blue collar Dems, aka Reagan Democrats.”

My eye. Hispanics will vote 3 to 1 against Romney. I don’t buy the idea that Hispanics are as conservative as many try to make them out.