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TEA Party Failures In Florida This Week Are A Warning
RantPolitical.com ^ | 8-16-2012 | PolitiJim (@politiJim)

Posted on 08/16/2012 4:55:53 AM PDT by rightjb

I’m concerned about the unrestrained euphoria of conservatives who believe that the Tea Party is unstoppable and that the election will be a rout in November. As a Cub fan I haven’t dealt with it often, but I’ve heard that over confidence can lead to disaster. (Somehow the Cubs are able to invite disaster without it.)

The TEA Party candidates lost Tuesday in Florida and Wisconsin. Even after flirting with attractions to elements of ObamaCare, former Governor Tommy Thompson won in Wisconsin. The Queen of TEA herself endorsed Rep. Sandy Adams but even that couldn’t create a repeat of the Texas grassroots tsunami experienced by the Palin/Cruz combo. What happened?

If this brings new calls that the TEA Party is dead, that is just as ignorant as thinking that it can’t be stopped.

I’ve been trashed for trying to bring a little perspective to the real TEA Party power, and no doubt the Pollyannas will think I’m trying to water it down. Nothing is further from the truth. What I’ve learned in 30 years of business is that while faith may move mountains, NOT accurately understanding your predicament can bring a mountain crashing down upon you. Even in Texas where the Cruz win is cited as a TEA Party victory, only 1/3rd of GOP voters would self-identify themselves as with the movement. This fits with national statistics that only about 27% of Americans drink the TEA. The more sobering stat is that 24% support Occupy Wall Street. But you won’t hear that in conservative media. TEA Candidates have not been dominating as some might think. Statistics show...

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To: muawiyah
rightjb's postings have stirred up discussion ~ much of it enlightening.

You're right about that, but my objection to this particular blogger is for a different reason entirely. Hit-and-run posting simply to get blog hits. Never takes part in that stirred-up discussion.

He may be a blogger, but he's hitting the Mittbots right where we like it.

Ooooh...how original and creative. Mittbot! How on earth did you come up with an impressive ad hominem like that?

41 posted on 08/16/2012 7:10:31 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: rightjb

Thanks for throwing cold water on an energized base...maybe if enough of these articles are posted it will become a self-fulfilling prophesy. Why don’t you join the MSM?


42 posted on 08/16/2012 7:29:09 AM PDT by soakland
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To: rightjb

43 posted on 08/16/2012 7:57:10 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: arasina
Hmm, Mittbot? Dunno, but I've been using it for over 5 years now.

Maybe that gives you a clue.

Let me say this about that ~ don't be such a Mittbot!

44 posted on 08/16/2012 9:06:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: soakland
The base can never be more energized than where Mitt and his running dog lackeys left it, and that wasn't terribly energized ~ least not for him!

Remember, he's only got 38% of the base who'll say they're "for him". The other 61% are "against Obama" ~ and there really are limits to what you can do with that.

Then there's the moderator lineup for 5 debates ~ Fidel Castro must have picked these characters. Best thing Mitt could do is GET OUTTA' THEM NOW, but apparently he thinks the moderators are great.

I'm not sure it's possible to fire up a base with a burned out former Massachuetts liberal governor. Fur shur Dukakis couldn't do it.

45 posted on 08/16/2012 9:14:03 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rightjb

I hate to see Mica going back to Congress and its disappointing that three candidates that were more conservative than Tommy Thompson squared off against him and split the conservative vote.

I wish we could win them all. But the establishment candidates are usually better funded and sometimes are better campaigners.

We know we will be fighting the commies in the general election. We are going to have to get better at fighting in the primaries. My opinion is that we too often let the primaries sneak up on us and then find we have several conservatives splitting the vote against one squishy moderate.

The struggle never ends.


46 posted on 08/16/2012 9:37:27 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: rightjb

“only about 27% of Americans drink the TEA. The more sobering stat is that 24% support Occupy Wall Street”

I’m concerned that any conservative would believe these are equal movements.

The TEA Party is grassroots.

OWS is a paid group of do-nothings being used to stir the pot against capitalism.


47 posted on 08/16/2012 9:41:21 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia ("Together we will unite America and get this done" - Paul Ryan - August 11, 2012)
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To: rightjb

Allen West, Tea Party hero kicked ass and took names. (As usual)


48 posted on 08/16/2012 9:43:05 AM PDT by Finatic (I ran out of change and have given up on hope. FUBO, I am so sick of your sorry a$$ you effin punk)
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To: rightjb

Allen West, Tea Party hero kicked ass and took names. (As usual)


49 posted on 08/16/2012 9:43:23 AM PDT by Finatic (I ran out of change and have given up on hope. FUBO, I am so sick of your sorry a$$ you effin punk)
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To: rightjb

Allen West, Tea Party hero kicked ass and took names. (As usual)


50 posted on 08/16/2012 9:43:27 AM PDT by Finatic (I ran out of change and have given up on hope. FUBO, I am so sick of your sorry a$$ you effin punk)
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To: muawiyah

“The GOP-e doesn’t think that’s .....”,

Please, what is GOP-e? My understanding of the term would tend in the direction of ‘e’ alluding to a ‘lite’ self serving version of a hollowed out GOP. Is that close?


51 posted on 08/16/2012 9:43:42 AM PDT by widdle_wabbit
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To: Ratman83

This sponger uses FR as a repository for his rants and hits to his blog. He never responds to any posts so not sure he even reads FR for the comments.

Here is his posting history and you’ll note it is nothing but post of his blog rantings. FR is a free site to promote his agenda.

Note the history:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:rightjb/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change


52 posted on 08/16/2012 9:45:39 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport

Yep, I was trying to get him to complain about the posting of the full article (I have done it a couple of times) so then maybe he could be zotted.


53 posted on 08/16/2012 9:59:20 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: oh8eleven
It would certainly be helpful if the local Tea Party's would post voter guides on their websites. The same goes for candidates who are chasing Tea Party votes.
54 posted on 08/16/2012 10:03:21 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Liberty is not collective, it is personal. All liberty is individual liberty. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Ratman83

Yep, I was trying to get him to complain about the posting of the full article


Good luck but my guess is he never reads the comments about his articles. Just looking for blog hits, imo. I doubt there is anywhere else on the web where can he get the magnatude of free exposure that he gets via FreeRepublic.com. Maybe FR should set up a fee for using its resources as he’s doing.


55 posted on 08/16/2012 10:06:20 AM PDT by deport
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To: widdle_wabbit
We used to refer to the REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT which is entirely too much breath to waste on them, but they are a state of mind ~ the Republicans who imagine they are moderate, and in the know, and have the correct answers unlike the rest of us who are knuckle draggers and religious freakazoids.

Actually, they're pushing it to even stay in the party with that attitude, but there you have it.

Someone came up with "GOP-e" for "Republican Elite" because it was shorter, the "e" in lower casen clearly reflected our disdain for their pretension, and it took back the words "Country Clubber" and "Rank and File" so we could deal with the Conservative Republican subgroups who (1) Provide the permanent party structure (and to a degree, the money), and (2) The folks who do the door knocking and doorbell ringing, passing out literature, getting people to the polls ~ and all that sort of work ~ all unpaid, all free will, all necessary to make the party go.

I liked that GOP-e term and thought we should use it so I started using it all the time when we deal with that crowd.

It's different than Mittbot. A Mittbot is a Romney hanger-on or advocate who thinks his candidate is smarter than everybody else (hence the sometimes use of "GOP-e" in concert with Mittbot), and any criticism of his candidate is also a criticism of Mormonism, and maybe even the Snake River Valley!

So, yeah, you probably have that all figured out ~ being GOP-e is not something any sensible person wants to be, but there they are anyway. They are one of the smaller Republican factions these days.

56 posted on 08/16/2012 10:10:20 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: widdle_wabbit
We used to refer to the REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT which is entirely too much breath to waste on them, but they are a state of mind ~ the Republicans who imagine they are moderate, and in the know, and have the correct answers unlike the rest of us who are knuckle draggers and religious freakazoids.

Actually, they're pushing it to even stay in the party with that attitude, but there you have it.

Someone came up with "GOP-e" for "Republican Elite" because it was shorter, the "e" in lower case clearly reflected our disdain for their pretension, and it took back the words "Country Clubber" and "Rank and File" so we could deal with the Conservative Republican subgroups who (1) Provide the permanent party structure (and to a degree, the money), and (2) The folks who do the door knocking and doorbell ringing, passing out literature, getting people to the polls ~ and all that sort of work ~ all unpaid, all free will, all necessary to make the party go.

I liked that GOP-e term and thought we should use it so I started using it all the time when we deal with that crowd.

It's different than Mittbot. A Mittbot is a Romney hanger-on or advocate who thinks his candidate is smarter than everybody else (hence the sometimes use of "GOP-e" in concert with Mittbot), and any criticism of his candidate is also a criticism of Mormonism, and maybe even the Snake River Valley!

So, yeah, you probably have that all figured out ~ being GOP-e is not something any sensible person wants to be, but there they are anyway. They are one of the smaller Republican factions these days.

57 posted on 08/16/2012 10:13:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: deport
Maybe FR should set up a fee for using its resources as he’s doing. Sounds good to me.
58 posted on 08/16/2012 10:14:55 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: deport
What matters is if I use his posts as a base to bounce off of to get across my position ~ same as you!

This guy has a blog, and his stuff is there, and he drops some of it in here. I think he actually gets down and dirty in some arguments here on FR under a different name since some things totally unassociated with his name DO SHOW UP in his rants even though those were hot topics on FR ~ so he had to read us ~ and I think discuss. And he ain't alone.

In short, he has two pen names ~ maybe three ~ and he's keeping them separate for some reason.

I have only one pen name I've used for half a century. That's what I use for anything political whether it's here or somewhere else. My pen name gets Ramadan and Christmas greetings from the Saudi ambassador every year.

If I ever start a blog my pen name there will be different.

59 posted on 08/16/2012 10:20:02 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Hmm, Mittbot? Dunno, but I've been using it for over 5 years now.

Maybe that gives you a clue.

Let me say this about that ~ don't be such a Mittbot!

You silly man, you.


60 posted on 08/16/2012 10:33:47 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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