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TEC ^ | 8-25-2012 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 08/25/2012 11:01:14 AM PDT by blam

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1 posted on 08/25/2012 11:01:20 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Government Elites and their Cronies are Hell bent on making us all poor.


2 posted on 08/25/2012 11:13:32 AM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Give me Liberty or I'll stand up and get it for myself!")
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To: blam

I understand voluntary compassion, but all these sob stories are meant to change public policy. Help those in need, if you want to, but don’t force others to give their hard earned wealth.

From the article: “...and the overwhelming greed that we see in society today is absolutely astounding.”

What the hell is that supposed to mean? Come, take my property, because you “need” it and I don’t. If poor cannot afford goodies, then better work to become rich. If their current work isn’t making them rich, work harder and smarter. Don’t lambast the rich for their “overwhelming greed”.

Any civilized society operates on the back of its rich(industrious), not on the back of its poor — most of whom are complete drain on society. Only communist countries operate on the back of its poor... since everybody is poor.


3 posted on 08/25/2012 11:14:15 AM PDT by sagar
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To: DivineMomentsOfTruth

“Government Elites and their Cronies are Hell bent on making us all poor.”

No, only you can make yourself poor. Your lifetime of bad decisions are reflected on your bank balance and investment portfolio. Blaming others for your failure is not the hallmark of a free society.


4 posted on 08/25/2012 11:16:49 AM PDT by sagar
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To: blam

“All over the country cities are passing laws making it illegal to feed the homeless, and in other instances cities are actually making it illegal to be homeless.”

The author sticks this worm in to a nice apple-y article about the poor WORKING people. (For THEM, I ache)

The homeless here...eat very well, with many meals freely given to them by well- meaning, but sadly misguided liberals.
Many homeless are obese dt the # of freebies they get, and believe me, they do know how to game the system.

Never mind the blight they bring to the rest of us.
Crime, public intoxication, drugs, crazy unnecessary drama, feces, vomit, used condoms... noooo!
I gots to feel good about myself and feeds em.

I don’t know about making it illegal to feed them...but you know, it’s illegal in National Parks.
Decreases the animal’s skills to survive = they become dependent.
What’s the diff?

We need to somehow “target” the WORKING poor.
“If you don’t work, you don’t eat” THAT is moral.
Feeding non-working scam artists is immoral.


5 posted on 08/25/2012 11:30:06 AM PDT by spankalib (The downside of liberty is the need to tolerate those who despise it.)
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To: sagar

He said that they WANT us to be poor. Surely you agree with that statement?


6 posted on 08/25/2012 11:33:00 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: blam
First of all, Who is Michael Snyder?..should I know who he is? and if I do not, am I an uneducated dolt?

Is the picture, him?

If you think that things are bad now, just wait, because things are about to get a whole lot worse....

....Is this a warning, no matter who wins the election in 70 days?

I can't keep up anymore....and I sure as hell can't force people to make better choices in life, like making 'A's in school, do not smoke, do not drink in excess, do not take drugs, do not get pregnant at 14 and stay out of jail....& on & on

7 posted on 08/25/2012 11:33:56 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Elections have consequences....)
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To: spankalib

PS
I just figured out the “Target Program”:

Reduce ALL taxes to flat 9%
Abolish stoopid alphabet agencies
Do everything else to slash spending that we’ve kvetched about on here for YEARS (UN, ETHANOL, PBS, etc. buh bye!)

In the resulting economy (through the roof Alice!) - anyone who is not working is either certifiably disabled of slothful.

spank for prez!


8 posted on 08/25/2012 11:40:08 AM PDT by spankalib (The downside of liberty is the need to tolerate those who despise it.)
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To: sagar

“I understand voluntary compassion, but all these sob stories are meant to change public policy.”

The fact is that an increasing number of people have no stake at all in this country. I’m not endorsing giving them something for nothing, but a lot more people are looking at a future as bleak as that of a 15 year-old “cash-for-kids” teenager from the projects. A lot of people are looking for work and can’t find any, and the falling wages would have many people working long hours for practically nothing. I don’t think CCC-type work is the answer because of the corresponding government costs, but a better business atmosphere would surely help. The current business model, in which many Americans can no longer purchase anything because they no longer earn any real wages isn’t working (though it is for Asia, since they now have many former American jobs).

The Dems would love to have 51% of Americans on the gov’t. teat to win elections and let the other 49% fund it; the Repubs can’t give the impression that they offer a future to only 51% of Americans to get through elections. Communism and socialism arose for reasons that shouldn’t be ignored.


9 posted on 08/25/2012 12:03:17 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: spankalib

“If you don’t work, you don’t eat” THAT is moral.

That’s a great concept that worked for many years here, when jobs were plentiful and Americans weren’t competing with Red Chinese peasants (who weren’t afforded a fraction of the rights or protections we would require for our own workers).

I knew when welfare reform passed they weren’t going to cut off the multi-generational welfare recipients; they would just change the name of what they were receiving. The “white” alternative I’ve seen a few times is to get a fake “autism spectrum” diagnosis for your child to receive Social Security for them.


10 posted on 08/25/2012 12:07:47 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: blam

“The following is from a recent article by Chris Hedges.”

That’s this “Chris Hedges”: “http://www.democracynow.org/2007/2/19/chris_hedges_on_american_fascists_the

At least “Chris Hedges” conducted the interview where Cornel West basically called Obama an oreo
http://www.truthdig.com/report/page2/the_obama_deception_why_cornel_west_went_ballistic_20110516/

But I hope the Freepers taken in by your post are few and far between, because it is radical Marxism you’re pushing


11 posted on 08/25/2012 12:08:47 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: sagar

“No, only you can make yourself poor. Your lifetime of bad decisions are reflected on your bank balance and investment portfolio. Blaming others for your failure is not the hallmark of a free society.”

That attitude (right or wrong) is why Americans have taken the European route, and many have basically stopped breeding. They don’t want anyone telling them they made themselves poor (though they still b!tch about the foreign replacements that have to be imported for work, to fill school seats, prop up empty housing, etc.).


12 posted on 08/25/2012 12:10:59 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
(The Clinic) also handles what in the local vernacular is known as “the crazy check” -- payments obtained for mental illness from Medicaid or SSI -- a vital source of income for those whose five years of welfare payments have run out. Doctors willing to diagnose a patient as mentally ill are important to economic survival. “They come in and want to be diagnosed as soon as they can for the crazy check,” the nurse says. “They will insist to us they are crazy. They will tell us, ‘I know I’m not right.’ People here are very resigned. They will avoid working by being diagnosed as crazy.”

I wonder why Social Security is going bankrupt.

13 posted on 08/25/2012 12:34:43 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: blam

The “rich folk” anecdotes (which prove nothing) are all “so-and-so has money (note we are not told how that money was earned): how DARE they spend it on themselves!

The lefts attack on prosperity continues unabated. The only way to make sure someone doesn’t spend money on shoes is to take that money away and give it to the poor.


14 posted on 08/25/2012 12:39:18 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 85+% of the black vote)
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To: spankalib

*** and in other instances cities are actually making it illegal to be homeless.”****

I remember when cities and towns had vagrancy laws to keep the bums out. Then the courts threw the laws out an the bums took over the local public facilities.

Has something changed?


15 posted on 08/25/2012 12:40:19 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Tyrannies demand immense sacrifices of their people to produce trifles.-Marquis de Custine)
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To: sagar

You obviously don’t know what I’m talking about.


16 posted on 08/25/2012 12:54:38 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Give me Liberty or I'll stand up and get it for myself!")
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To: blam

A good take on modern poverty is for the poor, with some assistance, to do the unthinkable: leave the cities and return to rural American small towns.

For many decades now, the demographic flow in America has been from small town to the big cities, and in truth this has been taking place since just after World War I.

One of the reasons for this is that small towns are boring.

However, boring is a lot more tolerable when the light dawns that it is also economical. People can live much better, or at least much less expensive, lives trading the high tech for the low tech, cooking their own food, sewing their own clothes, and accepting a lower level of health care than that provided by a government willing to ruin our collective future.

The way to bring this about is by states and counties deciding to rebuild towns that are more self sustaining, that is, they have some water and farmland. Think of it as low income housing for people willing to work.

A lifestyle more along the lines of the 1940s. It really isn’t that bad living in such a place as long as you are willing to work. And with some state and county support, a few thousand people could live there, which takes a big bite out of poverty.


17 posted on 08/25/2012 1:15:54 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: B.O. Plenty
"....Is this a warning, no matter who wins the election in 70 days? "

I think so.

No matter who wins, TSWHTF...there's no other way back from here.

18 posted on 08/25/2012 1:36:46 PM PDT by blam
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To: B.O. Plenty
First of all, Who is Michael Snyder?..should I know who he is? and if I do not, am I an uneducated dolt?

Beats me. All I could think of is Mitch Snyder, who has something to do with the homeless and Rush's homeless theme update. "I ain't got a home..."

19 posted on 08/25/2012 2:26:14 PM PDT by Dianna
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Mike Snyder is a banjo player out of Nashville. He is very good. My favorite of his songs is “Domineque Chicken” (pronounced dominecker).


20 posted on 08/25/2012 2:29:44 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (<)
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