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What would ‘President Romney’ really mean for gun owners?
Monachus Lex ^ | September 2, 2012 | John Pierce

Posted on 09/02/2012 7:56:38 PM PDT by JohnPierce

“Deadly assault weapons … are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.”

- Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney

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As the Republican National Convention comes to a close, it is time for me to live up to the promise I made when I wrote about Why gun owners should fear a second term for President Obama. That promise was to give the Republican nominee the same skeptical scrutiny that I gave to President Obama. And just as in that previous article, I am limiting my discussion to gun rights issues only.

I think it is only fair to note that, going into this article, I had some preconceived notions. Surely whoever the GOP nominated would be a sympathetic figure from a gun rights perspective wouldn’t they? After all, isn’t the GOP the gun-rights party? Well as it turns out, maybe not if you are a Massachusetts republican.

In her speech at the RNC, Ann Romney alluded to this, noting that “You may not agree with Mitt’s positions on issues or his politics. Massachusetts is only 13% Republican, so it’s not like that’s a shock.”

But wait … Is it really that bad? What exactly has Mitt Romney said or done that could be construed as anti-gun?

Perhaps most widely reported is the claim that he signed an ‘assault weapons‘ ban while Governor of Massachusetts. In 2004 he signed into law S.2367 which has been reported to be a state version of the federal ‘assault weapons’ ban. Now … signing a bill banning a large category of semi-automatic rifles, including the AR-15 which is one of the most popular rifles selling in America today, would definitely be a direct attack on the Second Amendment. But is that actually what Governor Romney did?

Actually no. Prior to S.2367, Massachusetts already had an ‘assault weapons’ ban in place. S.2367, which cleaned up a number of aspects of Massachusetts’ draconian gun laws, simply updated the existing law to include the definition from the federal ban instead of merely incorporating it since the federal ban was slated to sunset. The NRA goes into detail on their site about why the bill was in fact a victory for Massachusetts gun owners.

However, Governor Romney sullied the signing of this bill by making the comment that I opened the article with in which he parroted the words of the anti-gun forces and demonized so-called ’assault weapons.’ He may have not signed a ban, but his words tell us that he probably would have signed such a ban if it were placed before him.

What else has he done? In 2003, he signed a bill to increase firearms license fees from $25 to $100. To be fair, he proposed that the fee be increased only to $75 and the legislature instead took it to $100. But that still means he proposed a 300% increase in the cost to exercise what he has stated he believes to be a constitutional right. And he ultimately signed a bill making the increase 400%. This may seem trivial to many but it is a huge burden on those living in poverty. For many working families, such a fee effectively denies them the right altogether.

Dan Gross, relatively new president of the Brady Campaign (formerly Handgun Control, Inc.) had glowing words for Governor Romney when his record for gun control is compared to that of President Obama; “In their time in office, I would say with a pretty strong degree of certainty that Romney did more.”

Yet amazingly, in 2007 when speaking to the NRA via videotape, he made the astonishing claim that “As governor I worked closely with the NRA and The Gun Owners Action League to advance legislation that expanded the rights of gun owners in my state … We made it easier for people to exercise their constitutional rights.”

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“Really? That’s what you think you did? Really?”

Because in the real world, forcing people to pay $100 to exercise a fundamental right is not making it ‘easier for people to exercise their constitutional rights!‘

In the real world, calling popular sporting firearms “instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people” is not ‘expanding the rights of gun owners!’

Governor Romney has known for some time that he needed to reform his image with gun owners if he ever wanted to have a shot at the presidency. His efforts in that regard have not inspired confidence.

He joined the NRA as a life member in the summer of 2006, stating that “I’m after the NRA’s endorsement … [and I] joined because if I’m going to ask for their endorsement, they’re going to ask for mine.” That sounded a little too mercenary for most NRA members who join not for personal benefit but rather because they want to protect the right to keep and bear arms.

And the stumbles continued. In 2007, in an interview with The Glenn and Helen Show, he claimed “I have a gun of my own” in response to a gun owner’s question only to have to admit days later that this was not in fact true.

In late 2007, in an interview with Tim Russert, he reiterated that were he president, he would sign a reauthorization of the federal ‘assault weapons’ ban if it made it to his desk although he quite seriously assaulted the english language in doing so.

“Just as the president said, he would have, he would have signed that bill if it came to his desk, and so would have I.”

More recently, in an interview with CNBC’s Larry Kudlow on July 23rd, 2012, he was asked about S.2367. Rather than clarifying the issue, he choose to give a political answer which only alarmed gun owners further (emphasis added):

“Well, actually the law that we signed in Massachusetts was a combination of efforts both on the part of those that were for additional gun rights and those that opposed gun rights, and they came together and made some changes that provided, I think, a better environment for both, and that’s why both sides came to celebrate the signing of the bill. Where there are opportunities for people of reasonable minds to come together and find common ground, that’s the kind of legislation I like. The idea of one party jamming through something over the objection of the other tends to divide the nation, not make us a more safe and prosperous place. So if there’s common ground, why I’m always willing to have that kind of a conversation.”

Given his earlier demonization of ‘assault weapons’ and his continued support for a reauthorization of the federal ‘assault weapons’ ban, this answer leaves gun owners wondering whether a ‘President Romney’ might not support significant future gun control legislation if it were pushed by a bi-partisan group. It certainly does not inspire the kind of confidence one would like in a presidential candidate that is asking us for money and grassroots effort on his behalf.

While the NRA has not endorsed Governor Romney, he has received the official endorsement of outspoken rocker Ted Nugent but not before Romney reportedly pledged over the phone that “there would be no new gun laws or restrictions on Second Amendment rights in his administration.” I must say that a phone pledge is not the kind of reassurance I would like before opening my checkbook and hitting the streets for a candidate.

Perhaps the only thing that could be said with some degree of certainty is that a ‘President Romney’ would almost certainly nominate more pro-gun judges than would President Obama. And that is no small issue. During his first term alone President Obama has appointed two Supreme Court justices, 35 Court of Appeals judges, and 139 district court judges.

And these judges affect our rights in very real ways and will continue to do so for years to come. As I noted in my article about Why gun owners should fear a second term for President Obama, Heller was only decided by a 5-4 majority. Roberts, Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, and Alito were the majority.

McDonald v. Chicago was also only decided by a 5-4 majority with the same 5 conservative justices as the majority. Revealingly, President Obama’s first nominee to the Supreme Court, Justice Sotomayor joined the dissent characterizing the right to keep and bear arms for self-defense as “not fundamental”.

And here are some more numbers that should worry gun owners: Justice Scalia is 76 this year. Justice Kennedy is 75. If either of those justices decides to step down or suffers a health problem during the next four years then you can rest assured that any nominee President Obama puts forward will not vote the right way on the next gun rights case, many of which are already working their way up through the courts of appeal.

On the other side of the coin, Justice Ginsburg is 79 this year and Justice Breyer is 73. If either of these justices were to retire from the court, there would be an opportunity to shore up the slim majority that we currently hold in the Supreme Court.

I do believe that a ‘President Romney’ would likely be far better for gun rights than a second-term President Obama for the reasons laid out in my previous article about President Obama. But those reasons are all based on the anti-gun tendencies of President Obama rather than any significant pro-gun tendencies on the part of Governor Romney. I truly dislike rewarding someone for past bad behavior but politics is not an easy game and ‘choosing the lesser of two evils’ is the rule rather than the exception more often than not.

The potential federal judgeship appointments alone should be enough to get gun owners to offer their support to Governor Romney but I don’t think it is enough to truly energize them. After all, we are talking about a man who has the support of both Ted Nugent and Dan Gross of the Brady Campaign.


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To: MNJohnnie

Romney agrees with US 75% of the time? RomneyCare, gay marriage, same sex adoptions, cap & trade, free cars,insurance,repairs and AAA cards for welfare recipients, vast majority of judicial appointments to liberal democrats,and forcing catholic hospitals to perform abortions. Sounds like a record any liberal would defend. I understand the people who feel they have to hold their nose and vote for Romney, I don’t understand the ones like you who vote with eyes closed and ears plugged. With voters like you things will never change because you are the useful idiots of the liberal RINOs. I will be happy when Obama loses but sad that you liberals will continue to destroy this country.


81 posted on 09/03/2012 12:50:16 AM PDT by brightright
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To: JohnPierce

Romney will force Obama to take the financial meltdown in November after election day. Wall street and entitlements will crumple. 2A rights will remain untouched until the recovery. May take a decade.


82 posted on 09/03/2012 1:16:01 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Kansas58

“Silly, egotistical, bullheaded and stupid conservatives will give Obama another 4 years.”

I agree.

This childish ‘my way or the highway’ crap will give 0bama another 4 years to finish us off....forever.


83 posted on 09/03/2012 3:55:19 AM PDT by panaxanax (Voting 'Third Party' will ensure a Communist-Marxist-Socialist dominated Supreme Court!)
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To: JohnPierce

I think Romney’s a squish on the issue, but if he wins he’ll likely be accompanied by a substantial Congressional majority, who aren’t going to initiate anything like that. Now the second half of the term, when POTI traditionally lose ground in Congress, might be a different story. OTOH, I have a hard time seeing him losing the House even then, so it may not be a problem.


84 posted on 09/03/2012 7:36:16 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Parley Baer
If a bear attacks me in woods, I would rather have an assault rifle than a handgun.

If a bear attacks me on my property, I would rather have an assault rifle than a handgun.


85 posted on 09/03/2012 8:06:16 AM PDT by jy8z (From the next to last exit before the end of the internet.)
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To: JohnPierce; Solson
>Only one question needs to be asked....is he better than Obama?
And the answer to that is a resounding “Yes!”

I'm not sure about that. Romney and Obama have many political similarities, enough so that there is no significant difference between the two. With Obama there is at least the polarizing factor which binds a lot of people [general population] against him; with Romney, however those people will think 'I did something' and fail to follow-through on demanding good changes like government accountability. -- That complacency I think is a greater danger than simply having a terrible man in the office of the President, precisely because it signals to all of the government that they can get away with anything, even selling your children into slavery.

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86 posted on 09/03/2012 8:24:16 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Read it and weep. A Democrat Congress and a Democrat President passed it and signed it. A GOP Congress and a GOP President killed it.

That's factually incorrect, even by your own citation:
The Federal Assault Weapons Ban expired on September 13, 2004, as part of the law's sunset provision.

The Republican Party literally had to do nothing. Why should we give them credit for it expiring, when they say they are for the 2nd Amendment shouldn't that mean that they fight for it? Shouldn't that mean that they actively try to repeal the GCA and NFA? Until then, the Republican Party should get very little to no credit for being "pro 2nd Amendment."

87 posted on 09/03/2012 8:30:22 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: wrench

You may choose to shoot yourself in the foot. Not everyone is obliged to make the same choice simply because you have made it for yourself.


88 posted on 09/03/2012 9:04:39 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: wrench

Indeed. Those same folks are content to keep the status quo—keeping the DemoRepublican party in power, because they really don’t mind the DemoRepublican party being in power.


89 posted on 09/03/2012 9:23:37 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: OneWingedShark

There is a huge and massive difference. If you can’t see that, I can’t help ya.


90 posted on 09/03/2012 9:36:50 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Solson
There is a huge and massive difference. If you can’t see that, I can’t help ya.

Really? Then Romney hasn't pushed socialized medicine? Or implemented gun restrictions? Or appointed liberal [read activist] judges? Or pushed same-sex marriage/union?

There are a few Freepers from Romny's state who will quite disagree with you. And it's incredibly dumb not to at least acknowledge the reputation that he made for himself: saying what he thinks you want to hear; hell, there's a lot of witty political cartoons that tell the truth of Romney (which is that you cant trust what you hear).


91 posted on 09/03/2012 2:38:22 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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