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When The Music Stops – How America’s Cities May Explode In Violence
Western Rifle Shooters Association ^ | September 4, 2012 | Matt Bracken

Posted on 09/04/2012 5:37:03 AM PDT by Travis McGee

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To: CodeToad; All
Just damn. 1 day. That’s it. 1 day. As one poster put it, the dumb broad stood at the welfare office for 6 hours and that could have been a work day. 1 day. No food.

She has six kids. Do you think she would be able to get a job in one day? Everything she has known her entire life has been that the system delivers, and it sometimes delivers faster if you push it and complain.

What do you expect her to do! What would you do in her shoes?

The frightening thing about Matt's essay is that everything follows pretty well *if* the cards do not work for an extended period.

Therefore, it is in all our interests to insure that the cards work at least somewhat, and do *not* go out for extended periods. It may even work better if the recipients get used to the cards not working for a few hours, or a day at a time. That would build some resiliency into the system.

This is a very bad scenario that we *do not* want to happen. Welfare reform moved a lot of people out of welfare. The crime rate is going down, which means that the number of really nasty hard cases out there is likely going down too.

We can work our way out of this problem without a crash and CW2. It can be done.

361 posted on 09/05/2012 5:19:49 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Travis McGee
Talk about rose colored glasses. And a long time freeper to boot.

Thanks for the essay, I have sent it to some friends since you posted it. I see Ann Barnhardt blogged about it too. Good.

Take care!

362 posted on 09/05/2012 5:20:19 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Travis McGee; Louis Foxwell
Boys, Boys let us stop the very nasty name calling.

Here are three graphs of homicides and where they occurred in Chicago. Calling someone “RACIST” is a nasty accusation. Now TM and LF, feel free to research the demographics of the tag marks on these Chicago Murder Maps. I personally cannot imagine someone behaving better under worse economic conditions. But may be I have a negative view of the human condition.

The Red Eye Map has brief descriptions of each violent attack. The Google Map is from 2009 and is very dramatic and is the reason I linked it. The Chicago City boundaries are clearly marked in the Business Insider graph. When analyzing the Business Insider graph, let us just say it would have been safe for Obama’s “white” grandmother to walk the streets in those neighborhoods where there are no tags.

Redeye
http://homicides.redeyechicago.com/

Google Murder Map of 2009
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&source=embed&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=113815459076713258356.000463b77495ac9c316f8

Business Insider 2012 to date
http://www.businessinsider.com/this-map-of-chicagos-2012-homicides-shows-what-its-like-to-have-dozens-of-shootings-every-weekend-2012-7

Search
Google: Murder Map Chicago

363 posted on 09/05/2012 5:20:39 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. TY)
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To: Travis McGee
Controlled demolition. Guided destruction. Exec orders to maintain the fall.
Barry is not all that bright;but he has the top tier of old line communists, anarchists/Fabianistas and the ilk for assistance.
the system is corrupt throughout. Positions of decision-makers and those who simply 'sign-off' on the decisions are in place.

Look at the White Hut 'guest books.' She (Piven) has been there multiple times.
Look for checks cut to her for 'Consulting.'
I doubt she works for free these days.
Follow the $$$s.
364 posted on 09/05/2012 5:24:10 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Tainan; Travis McGee
"I also note that no mention (credit?) is given to this being the end-game result of following the Cloward-Piven Strategy model.

Probably an additional 5,000 just on this aspect contributing to the debacle.
"

That's an excellent idea (writing about it, that is). Socialists would encounter one obstacle, though: lack of valuable revenues from domestic manufacturing to distribute so broadly. Granted, fast, government-spurred rages of nationalism followed by manufacturing buildups have happened before (followed by much greater disasters of war).


365 posted on 09/05/2012 5:30:55 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: ctdonath2

That half will be a minority in the vigilante corps.


366 posted on 09/05/2012 5:37:31 PM PDT by expat2
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To: CodeToad

We’ll never know — but they are buying an awful lot of ammo for their HSA population, current or potential.


367 posted on 09/05/2012 5:48:18 PM PDT by expat2
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To: Louis Foxwell

Don’t think you were ‘up close & personal’ at the 1965 Los Angeles riots. I was.


368 posted on 09/05/2012 5:51:25 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: expat2; Travis McGee

You’re probably right about that.

My point was, for anyone who thought a 2-second interval between aimed shots with a semi-auto rifle was fast, that it can be beaten, with practice, with a bolt-action rifle.


369 posted on 09/05/2012 5:57:46 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Travis McGee

Government can shut phone services in specific or broad areas, including cellular. Even local police agencies have asked the FCC for policy permission to shut down cell services in their locales. Don’t know how that request was answered. Government can also shut down Internet service, although any such shutdown would affect very large areas, AFAIK.


370 posted on 09/05/2012 6:09:35 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Louis Foxwell
The heart of the black community is love and support.

With a 70% illegitimate-birth rate?

371 posted on 09/05/2012 6:11:59 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: marktwain

“What do you expect her to do! What would you do in her shoes? “

For one, not have six bastards.


372 posted on 09/05/2012 6:44:54 PM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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To: CodeToad
For one, not have six bastards.

Already done. Cannot take it back. We have to work for a soft landing. A crash will be very, very bad, and I am far better prepared than most. We do *not* want CW2. Gradual weening off the freebies is the way to go. Welfare reform was a good start. Obamacare is a huge step in the wrong direction.

I am convinced that a soft landing is possible.

373 posted on 09/05/2012 6:54:16 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: DuncanWaring
With a 70% illegitimate-birth rate?

The product of increasing welfare payments for more out of wedlock children.

374 posted on 09/05/2012 7:11:19 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: ridesthemiles

I was in Balt and witnessed it first hand. First, the death of King was not comparable to ending welfare. Second, all of the rioting was in the black community. It was lawless thugs and thieves, not a principled reaction to oppression.


375 posted on 09/05/2012 7:15:11 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: Travis McGee

Never said you used that imagery. Your belief, however, that blacks will riot and pillage when their benefits stop is pure racism.


376 posted on 09/05/2012 7:18:36 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: sand88
None of those who have chosen to use ad homonym attacks have attempted to deal with my central thesis. The black community is not a lawless pack of animals. It is people struggling against an oppressive and manipulative government to climb out of the pit that has been designed and forced upon them by wicked politicians.
377 posted on 09/05/2012 7:26:25 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

It’s not so much a question of if the gravy train stops.
It’s a question of if the train stops.

You’re completely missing Travis’ point. He’s talking what happens when FOOD RUNS OUT. Healing doesn’t ensue when few have eaten for three days.


378 posted on 09/05/2012 7:27:38 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Tack away!


379 posted on 09/05/2012 7:29:12 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: marktwain

“Welfare reform was a good start. “

That was 15 years ago. Nothing happened after that. Soft landing isn’t possible. We now have too many taking a check and I, for one, am tired of paying for it all.

NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!


380 posted on 09/05/2012 7:42:57 PM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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