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How the Disintegration is Likely Going to Happen
Barnhardt ^ | Sept. 4, 2012 | Anne Barnhardt

Posted on 09/04/2012 8:29:20 PM PDT by SatinDoll

READ EVERY WORD OF THIS AT LEAST TWICE. Matt Bracken has written a piece over at Western Rifle Shooters that matches exactly how I have envisaged the coming collapse and civil war.

His belief that it will all begin with the rejection of EBT Foodstamps cards is, I think, spot-on.

Next comes the urban riots.

Then comes the rioters spilling into the suburbs.

Then comes full-blown chaos when the rioters realize that the cops alone can't contain them.

Then come the beatings, rapes and murders. In the open. In broad daylight. At heavily trafficked intersections.

Then comes the militia, which is what I intend to do when shizz gets real. That has been my intention all along, since the fall of 2008 when I knew that collapse and civil war was an inevitability.

Echoing Bracken, if I am either sandbagged or on a bipod, 400 yards is an EASY kill. Men are a hell of a lot bigger than prairie dogs, which is why learning to snipe on prairie dogs is so wise, in addition to good, wholesome fun.

When I tell you people to be buying LONG GUNS and ammo, I'm not kidding. Assault rifles and tens of thousands of rounds of ammunition is one of the best places to park wealth right now. And you better know how to use it, and you better sit your wife down, tell her to cut the sissy, whiny female bullshit and learn how to handle every weapon system in your arsenal. This isn't a damn game or a TV show. Many, many women are going to find themselves as the ONLY THING standing between a hip-hop rape mob and their children.

If you haven't watched my Vendee Genocide YouTube presentation, I clearly lay out the case that it is an absolute certainty that THERE WILL BE MASS RAPES when the inner city hip-hop contingent can no longer be contained by standard law enforcement. It isn't even debatable.

Read the essay above, and then GET READY. QUICKLY.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2012; annbarnhardt; banglist; barnhardt; civilwar; cw2; ebt; economiccollapse; foodriot; guns; obamaschildren; preparedness; preppers; riot; shtf; snap; survival
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I'm prepared, yet still doubtful this will happen. However the situation in Europe involving Spain and Greece keeps getting more and more bizarre.

The banks in Spain are hemmoraging money due to bank runs. The Europeans are talking of monetizing their debts, up to a debt load of 50% of Europe's GDP! That's incredible.

If Europe's economy collapses, it is anticipated that the U.S. economy would, like a dominoe, fall as well.

We have just a bit over 60 days until the election. How long until the shit hits the fan, before or after the election?

1 posted on 09/04/2012 8:29:24 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: SatinDoll

As we found out in the 60’s, when the first riots happened, the fools in Washington have no guts. When the riots start again, they will just open the checkbook and push the country over the fiscal cliff.


2 posted on 09/04/2012 8:32:44 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: DesertRhino

Did you see this?


3 posted on 09/04/2012 8:33:14 PM PDT by exnavy (The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may God guide your heart.)
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To: SatinDoll
Then comes full-blown chaos when the rioters realize that the cops alone can't contain them.

When armed citizens realize that the cops are useless, it will be open season on anyone who looks like they belong to the wrong demographic group. Obama has bred a lot of anger. Both sides will be quick to attack, but one side will be in a much better position to make the shots count.

I see very serious demographic change coming to this country.

4 posted on 09/04/2012 8:35:21 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: SatinDoll

I read it. We’re ready.

Too easy to create choke points and “fatal funnels” out here in the boondocks.

Food and fuel are an instant issue in a crisis; medicines,etc. are secondary. Gold will be near worthless, except at the highest levels in areas under some kind of order.

Best to start thinking about it, even if you think SHTF scenarios are unlikely.


5 posted on 09/04/2012 8:36:37 PM PDT by One Name
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To: SatinDoll

The chance of major banking failure is real. Not probable in my mind, but real.

If rioting takes place it will be in major urban areas. I simply don’t see anarchy in TX. Citizens help each other too much and they are armed.

We would pull together in hard times for the most part.

In scattered cities it could be real nasty. Chicago, Detroit, NY City, LA

Rioting? That could happen, it has happened before with less pretence.


6 posted on 09/04/2012 8:36:56 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: SatinDoll

I think those of us who constantly monitor things on sites like this will know long before the EBT cards and SS direct deposit ‘checks’ dry up.


7 posted on 09/04/2012 8:36:56 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: ClearCase_guy

A welcome change at that.


8 posted on 09/04/2012 8:37:27 PM PDT by exnavy (The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may God guide your heart.)
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To: SatinDoll

By the way, I like Ann Barnhardt.

She is pretty smart and knows commodities trading.


9 posted on 09/04/2012 8:37:55 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: One Name

Yes the only “precious metals” in that situation are lead, brass and copper.


10 posted on 09/04/2012 8:39:45 PM PDT by exnavy (The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may God guide your heart.)
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To: SatinDoll

Here’s the article Ann was writing about:

When The Music Stops – How America’s Cities May Explode In Violence
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2926391/posts

By Matt Bracken AKA Travis McGee


11 posted on 09/04/2012 8:40:14 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Travis McGee

(( ping ))


12 posted on 09/04/2012 8:41:12 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: exnavy

If you have lead, you can get gold if you must..

Don’t see gold of much concern at that point, though.

Better to concern with dies, bullets, powder, shells and primers, IMHO.


13 posted on 09/04/2012 8:48:39 PM PDT by One Name
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To: FreedomPoster; Travis McGee

bump!


14 posted on 09/04/2012 8:49:46 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: exnavy

If you have lead, you can get gold if you must..

Don’t see gold of much concern at that point, though.

Better to concern with dies, bullets, powder, shells and primers, IMHO.


15 posted on 09/04/2012 8:50:51 PM PDT by One Name
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To: exnavy

If you have lead, you can get gold if you must..

Don’t see gold of much concern at that point, though.

Better to concern with dies, bullets, powder, shells and primers, IMHO.


16 posted on 09/04/2012 8:51:03 PM PDT by One Name
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To: One Name; Kartographer

You can’t eat gold. In a situation like that you’ll need useful things to trade, butane, MRE’s, canned goods, medicines etc

and you better be prepared to defend your freehold.


17 posted on 09/04/2012 8:51:31 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SatinDoll

BLOAT.


18 posted on 09/04/2012 8:51:31 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: SatinDoll

Does anyone have suggestions for a tactical shotgun that would also be usable by a wife who does not have a lot of upper body strength but who is not afraid to pull a trigger?


19 posted on 09/04/2012 8:53:05 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Texas Fossil

how could you tell if this happened in detroit?


20 posted on 09/04/2012 8:54:06 PM PDT by The_Sword_of_Groo (My world view is accurately expressed in the lyrics of " The Fightin' Side of Me")
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To: Texas Fossil

I doubt very much that the rioting would move much beyond the inner city. MUY mobs aren’t disciplined or organized. They involve people whose average IQ is about 85 and who are heavily outnumbered.

So, these people are going to storm suburban subdivisions? No, a couple of riflemen could kill so many of them that they would be running away in disorder. In Texas, our subdivisions have lots of riflemen. With an outbreak of rioting, the MUY areas would be probably be effectively quarantined by LEOs, Guardsmen, and regular army soldiers.

Too many people are looking for an apocalypse. We are going to have hard times, but I think that food, water, medicine, and other items needed for comfortable living will be the main issue for those who don’t live in MUY central (or next door). I worry more about the government than the MUYs.

Still, it doesn’t hurt to be zeroing in your long guns and practicing with handguns.


21 posted on 09/04/2012 8:55:00 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


22 posted on 09/04/2012 8:56:05 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: theBuckwheat

Savage Arms Stevens Model 320.

I like mine, particularly the pistol grip combined with the pump action!


23 posted on 09/04/2012 8:58:18 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll

I will add that folks need to make sure all their children are trained on weapons as well.A 10 year old can carry and shoot an M-1 carbine.Its up to the parents to teach them to hit the target.


24 posted on 09/04/2012 9:02:00 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: achilles2000

If the SHTF, there won’t be any LEO’s, Guardsmen around when you need them.


25 posted on 09/04/2012 9:03:32 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: One Name
Best to start thinking about it, even if you think SHTF scenarios are unlikely.

Exactly. When the consequences are so dire/severe you have to start paying attention even if the chances for that situation are very very remote.

We are slowly (but quicker now) stockpiling food, water, and ammunition. I live in a town with a lot of active duty and retired military. Already have a plan (as in map study and personal recon) to close off our suburban neighborhood (4 road entrances) to non-resident traffic. Lots of good cover, places for OPs to provide the hidden/real punch behind a roadblock. There will be no flash mobs, no looting in our area.

I know there is enough firepower within a stones throw of my place to do this. Aside from the hardware we have other support gear including radios, foul weather gear, optics, etc. Several of my neighbors have done multiple tours in the sandbox setting up checkpoints, running convoy security, running intel and spec-ops teams. We will be secure.

26 posted on 09/04/2012 9:04:51 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

You guys are squared away- it’s a little more far flung wild west here but we got cattle, water and woods.


27 posted on 09/04/2012 9:09:20 PM PDT by One Name
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To: GeronL; snowrip; DCBryan1

Not just governments but most major banks are broke and working on the edge. Most of the largest Mega Banks have derivatives exposures that are 40-50-60 times their total assets, so what happens if Europe does collapse (which is fairly likely) causing them to loose just a modest percentage on those derivatives? ( http://ncrenegade.com/financial/fdic-statistics-read-em-and-weep-ann-barnhardt/ )

Personally I expect something much like the well I think that we are in for something like the collapse of Argentina ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yerKMQc7-w&feature=grec_index )but on a global scale.

When you add in the fact that their is a growing concern for social unrest regardless of which way the election goes, the next few months will be like walking a mine field.

Recent events show (Flash Mobs, OWS, etc) we have a large entitlement minded population that is violent prone and armed. I think that during a collapse you will see many small businesses wiped out by flash mob looting, and once started it will quickly spread to rape, robbery and murder for murder sake. You will see what I call ‘pocket pogroms’ and if you ain’t ‘Amish’ you better not be around when they come.

Many of these ‘yutes’ will think no more about killing you than most people think about stepping on a roach. That will be the test of many. Most preppers I know are Christian people and they will hesitate to do what they might have to do to stop the ‘yutes’. On the other hand the ‘yutes’ won’t think twice nor lose a minute of sleep, in fact they will smile and laugh about it.

I can’t help, but think of this quote which is one of my favorites:

“Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)” (1998)

Quark: “Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.”

Now today I got a the following two complaints about using this quote:

From snowrip: “The truth of any coming collapse is not borne out by a quote from a science fiction TV show... and I’m a Trekkie!”

And from DCBryan1: “I concur: adding fantasy quotes to serious subjects dilutes the seriousness and credibility of the topic.”

I for one think you can find core truths in many places, some even in very unusual places, but that doesn’t take away from their truth.

For those that don’t understand the point how about if I ‘translate’ this quote:

John Doe: “Let me tell you something about people, Nephew. Most are wonderful and friendly as long as their bellies are full and their tv’s are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, hot showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty gangbanger. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.”

So tell me is this not a true statement of what happens to people once placed under such stressful conditions? You be surprised how many people don’t realize the transformations that can take place under such conditions. And because of their ignorance many won’t even live long learn.

I suggest those who are still doubtful read some of Selco’s firsthand experiences in Bosnia:

A Survival Q & A: Living Through SHTF In The Middle Of A War Zone

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2798007/posts

Clearly there’s a storm coming, as great as a hurricane and like you do when a hurricane comes your way you either prepare to weather it or you become a victim of it.

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf

NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.
Underestimation can be fatal.”


28 posted on 09/04/2012 9:14:01 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: GeronL

As I said, I think it is likely they will in fact cordon off the MUY areas. But, if they don’t, for the most part it will be a turkey shoot outside of the inner city. We don’t need the LEOs or anyone else to finish a mob.


29 posted on 09/04/2012 9:15:14 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: SatinDoll
"... Next comes the urban riots.

Then comes the rioters spilling into the suburbs.

Then comes full-blown chaos when the rioters realize that the cops alone can't contain them.

Then come the beatings, rapes and murders. In the open. In broad daylight. At heavily trafficked intersections."

Only those 'preppers' who live in suburbs near metro areas worry about this. If something like this were ever to come, I'll be watching it on the teevee until the news signal from Los Angeles or New York conks out.

Won't be happening where I live, that's for sure.

30 posted on 09/04/2012 9:15:59 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: theBuckwheat

A 28 ga shotgun is pretty tame for a slightly built shooter and is also a .55 cal weapon. Almost no one sells 28ga slugs but I’ll bet you could work up a serviceable load with.54 cal ball.

28ga buckshot would be a pretty decent defensive round, IMHO


31 posted on 09/04/2012 9:24:08 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey Low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: theBuckwheat

20 gauge pump (Rem 870 or Mossberg 500)


32 posted on 09/04/2012 9:25:21 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: achilles2000
MUY mobs aren’t disciplined or organized.

Do not underestimate street gangs. They are organized, have heirarchies, demand total loyalty and obedience to orders, are armed (even if not necessarily good shots), and might work together for plunder. This MUY contingent would not be a disorganized mob, and if their leaders are any good, could be a pain in the butt compared to an amatuer flash mob.

If they make it out of the cities, they will be lean, battle hardened, and organized. Better to overestimate their capabilities than think they will be easy.

In combat, target the leadership from a distance, and anyone else who seems important by their actions. If lots of people are referring to them, they're likely important to the group.

33 posted on 09/04/2012 9:34:18 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: achilles2000

Rioters isn’t the problem.

The military moving in and protecting the rioters against the militia will be.

Clinton had 25% plus of the military willing to open fire on Americans already in 2000. I think it’s worse now.

Look for O using any event, maybe even a false-flag WMD event, as the excuse to clamp down.


34 posted on 09/04/2012 9:46:02 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: The_Sword_of_Groo

Yep, Detroit, Chicago, LA look like war zones already.


35 posted on 09/04/2012 9:48:20 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Communications will be out or subverted, most any internet services belong to O already. He’s even moved onto the ham radio folks.


36 posted on 09/04/2012 9:52:53 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: SatinDoll
Then comes the rioters spilling into the suburbs.

Suicide by redneck.

37 posted on 09/04/2012 9:53:38 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Smokin' Joe
people with lower intelligence also have high impulsivity and little self restraint....believe me, these people won't stop quickly....they don't think things thru and if they want to rampage, they'll do it...

now place a few rampaging idiot urban yutes against a dozen sissy men and the sissy men don't have a chance...

sadly, we have too many sissies on our side, and I don't care how intelligent they are, if they can't protect themselves or their families, they are useless...

38 posted on 09/04/2012 10:03:39 PM PDT by cherry
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To: SatinDoll

There are several thousand Marines within walking distance. They might be of some assistance if nothing else as a possible place of refuge.


39 posted on 09/04/2012 10:08:04 PM PDT by p. henry
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To: theBuckwheat

“Does anyone have suggestions for a tactical shotgun that would also be usable by a wife who does not have a lot of upper body strength but who is not afraid to pull a trigger?”

Mossberg 930 SPX, 8 shots of 00 buckshot mayhem as fast as you can pull the trigger.


40 posted on 09/04/2012 10:09:08 PM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: MtBaldy
Since my Photobucket is up again, not mine but identical:
41 posted on 09/04/2012 10:12:17 PM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: Smokin' Joe

The FBI Announces Gangs Have Infiltrated Every Branch Of The Military

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-10-22/news/30309693_1_gang-members-law-enforcement-weapons


42 posted on 09/04/2012 10:20:09 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: theBuckwheat

One reason I went with my AK 74 a lot of bang and yet easy to handle.


43 posted on 09/04/2012 10:21:55 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: theBuckwheat

A good 20 gage in semi-auto. There are good ones being made inTurkey and imported for sale through sites like CheaperThanDirt. Have it delivered to a gun dealer neart you for registry & delivery. If you like, put a nice collapsible pistol grip stock on it and a shell sling. Let her practice with what you will keep in it for defense. Don’t skimp on ammo ... Akkar is a very good and yet inexpensive brand thsat is very reliable. Order an extra spring for the weapon and shoot the dickens out of it, then replace the spring at 500 to 1000 rounds through it. Close quarters, #2 shot or slugs, a true man stopper.


44 posted on 09/04/2012 10:22:43 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: SatinDoll; One Name; GeronL; exnavy

Great article. I agree about the description of the end state and the preparations necessary.

I would argue though, that gold is still an excellent investment under these conditions.

The reason is that the end-state description does not determine how we get from here to there. I believe that one of the intermediate steps will be massive monetarization by the Fed. Even more massive than we have already had. It is the only way to “pay” the derivative debts and keep the financial system from total implosion.

Of course, the results will be like an Argentinian inflation, (which took about 18 months to become the full bore hyperinflation).

And, gold will do very, very well. Better than anything else.

If I am right (always unknown for the future), it will be possible to buy food, land, water purification, and ammo before the total collapse.


45 posted on 09/04/2012 10:23:20 PM PDT by c. k. rowdybush
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To: c. k. rowdybush; SatinDoll; One Name; GeronL; exnavy

I would argue that barter items may actual be worth more, tobacco, alcohol, ammo, medicine, etc and be easier to sell and change into what you want than gold.


46 posted on 09/04/2012 10:32:48 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: SatinDoll
OK, this is scary as hell, and I'm going to throw my libertarian 2 cents in right now. Stop worrying about the war on drugs! Imagine, with our very lives and communities at stake, and we're now talking about using extensive police forces to bust down houses and bust people for using or selling a little pot or coke. Don't fill our jails with these type of criminals. And start configuring and training our police forces to deal with this riot contingency.
47 posted on 09/04/2012 10:34:01 PM PDT by Hokestuk
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To: Kartographer

gold becomes useful AFTER everything starts settling down


48 posted on 09/04/2012 10:39:58 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL

Those whole sold needed things to Gold miners often made more than all but the most successful miners. I think this will be the case. A connected person with access to needed/wanted goods or services will in long run come out a wealthy man from such a collapse.


49 posted on 09/04/2012 11:00:39 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: SatinDoll
On another note....here's a very nice and heart warming story.

http://www.wimp.com/veteransniper/

50 posted on 09/04/2012 11:03:15 PM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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