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I just got a phone call from the Obama campaign
wordpress ^ | September 20, 2012 | Dan from Squirrel Hill

Posted on 09/20/2012 8:03:52 PM PDT by grundle

I just got a phone call from the Obama campaign

It’s the evening of September 20, 2012. I’m sitting here typing now – trying to get this down as accurately as I can remember. The following is just a rough version based on my memory – I did not record the call, so these are not the exact words.

Phone: Ring!

Me: Hello?

Her: Is this Daniel (—)?

Me: Yes.

Her: My name is (—). I’m calling from the Obama campaign right here in Squirrel Hill.

Me: Really? That’s where I live. Where are you?

Her: We’re right across from (—).

Me: I know where that is. I’m just a few blocks away.

Her: I’m hoping that you’ll vote for the President in the upcoming election.

Me: Actually, I’m planning to vote for someone who isn’t the President – Gary Johnson, the Libertarian Party candidate. Have you heard of him?

Her: No.

Me: Please tell me why I should vote for your candidate.

Her: Because I feel deep inside that he’s the best person for the job.

Me: I’m not interested in feelings. I’m interested in Obama’s positions on the issues. What are some of his policies that you agree with?

Her: Health care reform.

Me: Obama gave waivers to many of the very same unions that helped him to get his health care reform passed. These unions asked for exemptions from some of the very same provisions of health care reform that they want everyone else to be forced into.

Her: That’s your opinion.

Me: No – it’s not my “opinion.” It’s a fact. It’s a fact – not my “opinion” – that many of the unions that helped to pass Obama’s health care reform got exemptions from some of the more expensive parts of it. That is not my “opinion” – it’s a fact.

Her: Just because you say so doesn’t mean it’s true.

Me: Go to google and search for “Dan from Squirrel Hill” – that my blog. I have a list of 95 reasons not to vote for Obama. It’s not at the top of my blog, but if you scroll down a bit, it’s there. And I cite sources for everything. I cite sources which show that many of the unions that helped to pass Obama’s health care reform got waivers which exempt them from the very same things that they expect everyone else to follow.

Her: Just because something is on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true.

Me: That’s true – but these particular sources are legitimate. Speaking of health care, Obama promised that he would stop the federal raids on medical marijuana in states where it’s legal. But he broke his promise – the raids are still going on. There are people who are dying of AIDS and cancer – and people with multiple sclerosis and glaucoma – who have prescriptions for medical marijuana in states where it’s legal – and Obama is sending in his armed agents to prevent them from taking their medicine. People are dying from AIDS and cancer – and Obama is stopping them from taking their medicine.

Her: That’s what you say.

Me: It’s not just me who says that. Rolling Stone magazine – a very left wing magazine – said that Obama’s war on medical marijuana is worse than Bush’s. Mother Jones magazine – which is also far left – has also criticized Obama for this. So has NPR. There are all sources that liberals love. Have you heard of Rolling Stone magazine?

Her: Yes.

Me: Have you heard of Mother Jones magazine?

Her: Yes.

Me: Have you heard of NPR?

Her: Yes.

Me: Well, I cited all of those sources on my bog. The links are right there. You can read from those websites about Obama’s war against medical marijuana. I cited examples of dozens of raids, all with sources. You don’t have to take my word for it – you can look it up for yourself – and I cited legitimate sources for everything. Obama carried out a huge number of raids against medical marijuana in states where it’s legal.

Her: That’s your opinion.

Me: It’s not my “opinion” – it’s a fact. It’s a fact – not an “opinion” – that Obama has carried out huge numbers of raids on medical marijuana in states where it’s legal. He made a campaign promise to end the raids, and he broke that promise.

Her: In your opinion.

Me: No – it’s not my “opinion” – it’s a fact. Did you know that Obama supports indefinite detention?

Her: That’s your opinion.

Me: No, it’s not my “opinion” – it’s a fact. Obama also supports unwarranted wiretapping.

Her: In your opinion.

Me: No, not “in my opinion.” It’s a fact, and I cited sources for it. He also signed a renewal of the Patriot Act.

Her: That’s your opinion too.

Me: No, it’s not my “opinion.” It’s a fact – not my “opinion” – that Obama signed a renewal of the Patriot Act. I cited sources for it.

Her: Those sources could be wrong. Just because something is on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true.

Me: It’s a matter of public record. All laws signed by the President are a matter of public record. You don’t have to take my word for it – it’s a matter of public record that Obama signed a renewal of the Patriot Act.

Her: In your opinion.

Me: Remember that $700 billion corporate welfare bill that President Bush signed, which gave bailouts to the Wall St. criminals who caused the financial crisis?

Her: Yes.

Me: When Obama was a Senator, he voted for that.

Her: In your opinion.

Me: No – it’s not my “opinion.” It’s a fact – not my “opinion” – that Senator Obama voted for the $700 billion TARP bailout. What do you think of Guantanamo Bay?

Her: I think it’s terrible.

Me: Did you know that Obama promised to shut it down, and that he broke that promise?

Her: I think that Obama made a promise that sounded good at the time, but once he was in office, he realized that it was a bad promise.

Me: Liberals hated Bush for his actions regarding Guantanamo Bay – why don’t they hate Obama for the same thing?

Her: I think Obama had some tough decisions to make.

Me: Liberals hated Bush for his support of indefinite detention, unwarranted wiretapping, the Patriot Act, the war against medical marijuana, and the $700 billion TARP bailout. Why don’t liberals hate Obama for supporting those exact same things?

Her: It’s only your opinion that Obama supports those things.

Me: No, it’s not my “opinion.” It is a fact – not my “opinion” – that Obama supports those things. I cite sources for all of those things on my blog.

Her: Just because you say so doesn’t mean it’s true.

Me: You don’t have to take my word for it. I cited sources. I cited many left wing sources that supported Obama four years ago, which are now being very critical of him. You can click on the links and read the sources yourself.

Her: Just because something is on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true.

Me: He’s the President. Everything he does is part of the public record. Every bill he signs as President, and every bill he voted for as Senator, is part of the public record. You can look it up for yourself.

Her: That’s your opinion.

Me: These things aren’t my “opinion” – they are facts. The policies that Obama supports are a matter of public record.

Her: In your opinion.

Me: Obama has raised more money from Wall St. than any other candidate.

Her: That’s your opinion too.

Me: No – that’s a fact. It’s not my opinion. Obama has fundraisers where the rich people on Wall St. donate $35,800 per person – the maximum legal amount. That’s $35,800 for one person getting one plate at one dinner – and he has many of these events. This is a fact. Obama really does have these huge fundraisers, and the rich people on Wall St. really do donate all that money to him.

Her: That’s just your opinion.

Me: No – it’s not “just my opinion.” It’s a fact – Obama really does raise all that money from the rich people on Wall St.

Her: In your opinion.

Me: Do you know who Jill Stein is?

Her: No.

Me: She’s the Green Party candidate. She disagrees with Obama on these issues. Please give me a reason to vote for Obama.

Her: Because he needs time to continue with the things that he’s been doing for the past four years.

Me: Really? You mean like his support of indefinite detention, unwarranted wiretapping, the Patriot Act, the bailouts for the corporate criminals who caused the financial crises, and the war against medical marijuana?

Her: That’s just your opinion.

Me: No – it is not my “opinion.” Obama supports all of those things – it’s a matter of public record.

Her: I have great trouble believing you.

Me: You don’t have to believe me. You can look these things up yourself. Obama really does support each and every one of those things. I cited sources on my blog. If you don’t trust Rolling Stone magazine, Mother Jones magazine, NPR, and my other other sources, you can look all of these things up for yourself, in whatever sources you want.

Her: I have great difficulty believing that Obama supports those things.

Me: Please tell me something about Obama that would appeal to my libertarian beliefs.

Her: I just feel that he’s the best person for the job.

Me: In the beginning of this call, you also said you supported Obama based on your “feelings.” Well, I judge candidates based on facts. This is where you and I differ – I prefer to go by facts – whereas you prefer to go by feelings. Please give me one reason why I should vote for Obama, based on the facts.

Her: I have to be going now.

Me: OK. Goodbye.

Her: Goodbye.



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1 posted on 09/20/2012 8:04:01 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

That’s all well and good, but the fact is that a vote for Gary Johnson is NOT a vote AGAINST Obama.


2 posted on 09/20/2012 8:07:03 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: grundle

Should have brought up the economic mess Obama is going to “inherit” from himself if he gets reelected.


3 posted on 09/20/2012 8:10:12 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Proud to be a 53 percenter American.)
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To: grundle
Good thing that wasn't a robocall. If nobody picks up, they mark the occupant down as an Obama voter by default.
4 posted on 09/20/2012 8:11:04 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: jocon307

Funny that people get po’d about all the lying the O admin does and then right here on FR people keep saying that a vote for someone other than Obama is really a vote for him. Unless you can show how the vote for anyone else gets counted in the Obama tally, actually adding to his overall total, please stop embarrassing yourself and the rest of the thinking people here.


5 posted on 09/20/2012 8:14:14 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: grundle

I have difficulty believing this person actually stayed on the phone with you for this whole conversation. His idiot volunteers usually hang up as soon as they hear someone disagree with their feelings. And that’s a FACT!!!!


6 posted on 09/20/2012 8:15:44 PM PDT by Nitehawk0325 (ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL, THE SIMPLEST SOLUTION IS THE BEST.)
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To: jocon307
That’s all well and good, but the fact is that a vote for Gary Johnson is NOT a vote AGAINST Obama.

In the context of this conversation, it really doesn't matter. It allows the Obama caller to have to defend his positions and actions in a way that doesn't permit attacking Romney.

It's absolutely brilliant, imho. Well done and executed!

The next step should be to enter that dialogue into whatever program was used to develop this exchange about Quantitative Easing and post it on youtube.
7 posted on 09/20/2012 8:17:09 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Norm Lenhart

Did you vote for Perot? How did that work out?

This is going to be close and Romney needs every anti-obama vote he can get to get Team Kenya out of the White House.


8 posted on 09/20/2012 8:18:02 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: grundle

Libertarians are great when it comes to financial issues. They go off the deep end on national security and social issues. Gary Johnson said Iran is not any serious threat:

Johnson also says Iran’s nuclear program isn’t a threat to the United States because the principle of “mutually assured destruction.”

Obviously, this man has no clue about the philosophy of radical Islam and their belief system.


9 posted on 09/20/2012 8:18:21 PM PDT by NoobRep
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To: grundle

Respectfully, Is there any way Dan from Squirrel Hill can be convinced not to vote for Obama by voting for Gary Johnson?


10 posted on 09/20/2012 8:19:12 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: grundle
  Well! I guess she had to be going. :)

  Anyway - excellent call - and I'm also voting for Gary Johnson.
11 posted on 09/20/2012 8:20:10 PM PDT by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: grundle
When a leftist denies facts you make no progress reciting facts. Try asking 'what if' questions. E.G., what if Zero granted unions health care wavers? What would you think him then?

12 posted on 09/20/2012 8:20:22 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: lodi90

No and that’s not the point.

A vote for anyone is a vote FOR that person. Period.

THAT is the point and spouting BS about some fantasy that Obama magically gets those votes makes the spouter look and sound like a liberal whether he is or not.

Accept that some will not vote Romney whether you approve or not. Accept that a vote for whoever is a vote for that person. Because you don’t have a choice. Reality cares nothing for your wants.


13 posted on 09/20/2012 8:21:07 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: jocon307

“That’s all well and good, but the fact is that a vote for Gary Johnson is NOT a vote AGAINST Obama.”

That’s your opinion.../s

Just to ensure, I understand your statement is...a fact.


14 posted on 09/20/2012 8:22:49 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: tanknetter
I like it, too. If he had said he is voting for Romney, the caller would have hung up sooner. This Gary Johnson bit gave the caller "HOPE" to "CHANGE" and the hook was set.

It sounded like the caller was perplexed towards the end. Maybe, the technique might have her thinking more on her own. Good job.

15 posted on 09/20/2012 8:23:41 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (christian.bahits.com)
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To: I see my hands

I also like keeping them on the line a long time. The Obama lemming would have made 2 or 3 more calls if not for this call.


16 posted on 09/20/2012 8:25:23 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (christian.bahits.com)
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To: Norm Lenhart
"Unless you can show how the vote for anyone else gets counted in the Obama tally.."

Are you really that slow, Obama boy, or are you just pretending to be as a rhetorical device?


17 posted on 09/20/2012 8:25:58 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: grundle

Just because you posted this on FR doesn’t mean it’s true...


18 posted on 09/20/2012 8:26:41 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1339 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: grundle

its great when liberals call on you for something then you turn the conversation around and they backpedal...

last year i was cutting my lawn and this hippy chick walks onto my property- she said she was from some NY environmental group and asked me if i would sign a petition to get the US off of fossil fuels (while i was sitting on my gasoline chugging lawn tractor none-the-less)...

i asked her what alternatives was she offering...”renewables!!”...i asked her what type of renewables could i put in my cars gas tank to get me to work on Monday to pay for all the gov’t programs for the poor??

“uh- well we have nothing yet”....

i then asked about nuclear energy...”no- no nuclear, just renewables like wind!!”...i asked if she was going to put one of those wind things, the one that kills all the birds, in her parents yard...”well, we don’t have a wind farm yet”...

i then reminded her that i heard this pathetic argument 30 years earlier when the environuts were screaming to stop nuclear energy and as a result America was behind nations like France who have so much nuclear power they export it- never mind states like Vermont....

she realized she was defeated and her only response was “you watch Fox news don’t you?”...i told her i sure as hell don’t watch MSNBC....


19 posted on 09/20/2012 8:27:11 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Nitehawk0325

Her: That’s just your opinion.


20 posted on 09/20/2012 8:28:01 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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