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08 Oct 2012Goodbye To The Army And Marines: Political Correctness Has Taken Over
Captain'sJournal.com ^ | Oct 8, 2012 | Herschel Smith

Posted on 10/15/2012 6:11:17 AM PDT by Travis McGee

As precursors to my analysis, take note of the following inconsistencies and contradictions. First, Dr. Steve Metz, Professor at the U.S. Army War College in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, in response to Sharia is coming, left this comment: “Should we worry about the creeping influence of the Boy Scout laws? More people follow that in the United States than sharia.” Note well. Steve is comparing Boy Scout law with Sharia law. This Boy Scout law – compared to this sharia law.

On the other hand, because of political correctness, in the Spring of this year, US Army Lieutenant Colonel Matthew Dooley was condemned by the Joints Chiefs of Staff (JCS) and relieved of teaching duties at Joint Forces Staff College for teaching a course judged to be offensive to Islam. The course he taught, Perspectives on Islam and Islamic Radicalism, was an elective course that Lt. Col. Dooley’s superiors judged as presenting Islam in a negative way. His superiors were persuaded to come to this conclusion after receiving an October 2011 letter in which 57 Muslim organizations claimed to be offended by the course. The fact that Lt. Col. Dooley is a highly decorated combat veteran with nearly 20 years of service under his belt apparently held little or no sway with the JCS. As a matter of fact, JCS Chairman General Martin Dempsey “personally attacked” Lt. Col. Dooley on C-Span on May 10, 2012, during a Pentagon News Conference.

Next, take note of the fact that females are now matriculating at infantry officer training at Quantico. This is certainly in line with Andrew Exum’s counsel concerning his own branch of the service: “I see no compelling reason why women should not be allowed to attend Ranger School. As far as I am concerned, if a woman really wants to run around a sawdust pit at two in the morning screaming “Ranger!” while periodically stopping to low-crawl for 50 meters, we have a constitutional — nay God-given — responsibility to allow her to do so.”

But now consider what Former Spook observes concerning women in combat MOS.

Almost 20 years ago, columnist Fred Reed published results of an Army study, comparing fitness levels among male and female soldiers. The data reaffirms that most women simply lack the upper body strength and endurance required by an Army infantryman, a Marine rifleman, or most special forces MOS’s.

The average female Army recruit is 4.8 inches shorter, 31.7 pounds lighter, has 37.4 fewer pounds of muscle, and 5.7 more pounds of fat than the average male recruit. She has only 55 percent of the upper-body strength and 72 percent of the lower-body strength… An Army study of 124 men and 186 women done in 1988 found that women are more than twice as likely to suffer leg injuries and nearly five times as likely to suffer fractures as men.

The Commission heard an abundance of expert testimony about the physical differences between men and women that can be summarized as follows:

Women’s aerobic capacity is significantly lower, meaning they cannot carry as much as far as fast as men, and they are more susceptible to fatigue.

In terms of physical capability, the upper five percent of women are at the level of the male median. The average 20-to-30 year-old woman has the same aerobic capacity as a 50 year-old man.

Finally, take note of the undercurrents in the suicide prevention department of the DoD. We can trust our men with the most lethal weapons known to mankind, but the desire now is to give commanding officers authority over personally owned weapons. As one commenter has noted, the concept of “at risk” is subjective, which is the same reason that such medical assessments cannot ever be allowed to preclude the right to own firearms in the civilian community.

My son routinely hauled 120 pound(+) kit off the line as a fleet Marine, including his time in Fallujah, Iraq, between body armor (including SAPI plates), backpack, weapon, SAW drums plus ammunition, hydration system, and so on and so forth. Recall this picture from the assault into Helmand in the summer of 2009?

This Marine is carrying his kit plus a mortar plate. He is probably crossing the line at greater than 150 pounds.

My son trained as a fleet Marine before the age of political correctness. Strong, male Marines – not reserve Marines, but hard core regular duty infantry Marines – would need to take several shots of whiskey and 1000 mg of Ibuprofen to kill the pain prior to their twenty miles humps with full kit on 100 degree F (+) days at Camp Lejeune. Negligent discharges brought a season in the so-called “room of pain.” Laying back on the humps brought time in the room of pain. Failing to qualify well on the range brought time in the room of pain.

Fun time involved laying down to sleep in the swamp overnight at Camp Lejeune (as ordered) and having to strip naked the next morning so that your buddies could burn the leeches off with cigarettes. Or, how about that extended time at Fort A.P. Hill when the NCOs gradually removed everything the Marines had, from tent, to sleeping bag, to food, to winter clothing. Then, it was time to sleep one winter night on that outing, and there was no way to stay alive unless Marines huddled, hugged, laid down together, shivered and threw leaves over themselves for the night.

You get the picture. But my son left the U.S. Marine Corps because, in his own words, “the Corps is changing.” He couldn’t train his boot Marines the same way he was trained. He wasn’t allowed. He had initially intended to extend so that he could go to Afghanistan with his boot Marines because he felt responsible for them. But he believed that a lot of good men would perish in Afghanistan, and that he couldn’t make a difference in that. So he left, along with all of the other Marines who had experience from Iraq.

If you have some sort of androgynous, genderless vision for the armed forces – if you believe that Navy Corpsmen should be able to treat the field diseases of both men and women and understand what mud and parasites in the various different cracks and crevasses and holes of men and women do, if you believe that men and women are on equal footing pertaining to physical abilities, if you believe that machines like the ridiculous Army future combat systems robotics and the silly machines like the big dog can ever replace mules and the backs of infantry Marines, if you believe that men and women will be able to interact socially as a cohesive fighting unit without the behavior that attends the opposite sexes – I think you’re weird and creepy. Not that we can’t be friends, but just that you’re weird and creepy, at least to me. Machines cannot replace strong men, and even the Russians found out in Afghanistan that women had a higher number of lower extremity injuries than men, causing severe under-manning of forces. Exum believes that we have a constitutional and God-given duty to allow women in Ranger school. I’m a constitutional aficionado with seminary training, and I don’t think Exum can prove either of those assertions.

As for Steve Metz, he isn’t stupid, he has just let his political and religious bigotry cloud his scholarship, leading to the stupid things he said about Sharia law. But it’s okay to have Steve Metz saying those things as long as we don’t let contrary positions be taught. We wouldn’t want to offend anyone, would we?

As for the personal possession of guns by Soldiers and Marines, how about this proposition. We remove the ridiculous rules of engagement under which they operate and give them a coherent strategy, and see how our fighting men respond. If not well, then I would be willing to spend some extra dollars to help assess PTSD. But I’m betting I won’t have to spend a dime of that money.

As for the Army, I kind of expect this sort of thing. But the Marines were supposed to be different. They’re not, and political correctness proves it. It’s a sad thing to watch the diminishing of the U.S. Marine Corps, once the greatest fighting and strike force on earth, to political hackery. I hold the Commandant of the Marine Corps responsible, at least in part. I also hold responsible a public who allows this kind of thing without pulling the plug on the absurdity of the use of our armed forces for every social engineering experiment that appeals to the self-professed intellectual elites. And finally, it’s a shame that I have to mention the Commandant of the Marine Corps and the nations “intellectual elite” in the same breath. How very sad is all of this?


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: army; cw2; cwiiping; marines; matthewdooley; militarypc; usarmy; usmc

1 posted on 10/15/2012 6:11:22 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ApesForEvolution; ..

CW2 Ping

The Taliban is inside the building.


2 posted on 10/15/2012 6:16:10 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
08 Oct 2012Goodbye To The Army And Marines: Political Correctness Has Taken Over

Political correctness has been the rule in the Air Force for quite some time.

3 posted on 10/15/2012 6:18:13 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping, gay bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO!)
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To: Travis McGee
"My son routinely hauled 120 pound(+) kit off the line as a fleet Marine, including his time in Fallujah, Iraq, between body armor (including SAPI plates), backpack, weapon, SAW drums plus ammunition, hydration system, and so on and so forth. Recall this picture from the assault into Helmand in the summer of 2009? This Marine is carrying his kit plus a mortar plate. He is probably crossing the line at greater than 150 pounds."


4 posted on 10/15/2012 6:22:23 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
bump & bkmrk for tomorrow.
I'm going to bed almost 2130 hrs and my day starts at 0415.
5 posted on 10/15/2012 6:26:39 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: Travis McGee

The bitter fruit of liberalism, fantasism, and self-esteemism.


6 posted on 10/15/2012 6:32:06 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Travis McGee

An easy rebuttal to “Dr. Steve Metz, Professor at the U.S. Army War College”.

“Doctor, based on who you are and what you do, have the Boy Scouts of America threatened to behead you, murder your entire adult family, and rape your underage daughters and force them to convert to ‘Boy Scout-ism’, where they have to live in enclosed pens like animals for the rest of their short and unhappy lives; while ordering your underage boys to blow themselves up with bombs in crowds full of innocent people for a merit badge or something?”


7 posted on 10/15/2012 6:53:35 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: Travis McGee

I am in complete agreement with the author. Besides these important parts, we should also thank our idiot leaders with the repeal of DADT: now we have to deal with the homosexual networks and preferences. Immensely corrosive and destructive to morale and discipline and further reduces the combat effectiveness we need to stay free. Gen. Amos is the worst Commandant in our Corp’s history.


8 posted on 10/15/2012 6:57:18 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Travis McGee

When I was much younger, I spent some time running around the woods carrying about 70 pounds on my back, which was about half my body weight at the time.

Darned near killed me.


9 posted on 10/15/2012 7:00:58 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Travis McGee

Ther PC has gone so bad that we see soldiers get killed by the enemy while they stand there unarmed...and military officers claim those being killed are too stupid and clumsy to have wepaons, and that while some may die from being unarmed, even more would be killed by their clumsy handling of weapons if they were armed. In WWII if a military soldier was on the ground he had a weapon. Today, they go unarmed.


10 posted on 10/15/2012 7:07:43 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: Travis McGee

This came to me via the CW2 ping list (Thank you!), so let me just say: When the SHTF, we will be pitted against a military that even fears the Boy Scouts.


11 posted on 10/15/2012 8:01:10 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Chainmail
It was not Amos, it was the POS Admiral Mullins that forced DADT down our throats, pun intended. Amos nearly lost his job speaking out against the repeal. The Blue Navy and the Powder Blue Air Force forced this on the green side warfighters and continue to push political correctness to the point of it being damaging to our military. That said, the vast majority of Marines and Sailors are shining examples of the very best their generation(s) have to offer!
12 posted on 10/15/2012 8:04:42 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO
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To: Travis McGee

Correct


13 posted on 10/15/2012 8:05:03 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Travis McGee

The author is kind right, kinda wrong. He thinks he knows about Marine grunts. He doesn’t. But he’s correct about women not belonging there.


14 posted on 10/15/2012 8:06:57 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I’d go for a knock out 1st but you conveyed my thoughts perfectly, thanks!


15 posted on 10/15/2012 8:16:33 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Travis McGee

Expletives deleted ahead of time, since I know the Mods will deleted what I want to say...

The c-suckers responsible for this crap need to be...never mind....


16 posted on 10/15/2012 8:37:31 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Travis McGee

I’m so sick of the PC, social engineering petri dish that our military has become, I just want to puke.


17 posted on 10/15/2012 8:56:01 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism didn't magically show up in Romney's heart in 2012. You can't force what isn't in you.)
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To: Travis McGee
A Short Course on Shariah & the Muslim Brotherhood

1. What Is Shariah?

2. How Does Shariah Define Jihad?

3. ‘Civilization Jihad’ – the Muslim Brotherhood’s Potent Weapon

4. True Lies – the Paradox of Debating Shariah

5. Taqiyya – A Concept of Deceit that Security Professionals Must Know

6. Slander – How it is Used and Abused Under Shariah

7. How Shariah ‘Blasphemy’ Laws are Being Imposed On Us

8. What is the Muslim Brotherhood and How Does it Operate?

9. Genesis of the Muslim Brotherhood

10. Movement of the Muslim Brotherhood into the West

11. The Muslim Brotherhood’s Westward Infiltration

12. The Muslim Brotherhood in America

13. The Holy Land Trial: On the Trail of the Muslim Brotherhood

14. The Muslim Brotherhood’s ‘Strategic Plan’

15. Penetration of the US Government: A Case Study

16. Mapping the Muslim Brotherhood in America

17. Who’s Who in the American Muslim Brotherhood

Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered ...

18 posted on 10/15/2012 9:37:59 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered ...)
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To: Travis McGee
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19 posted on 10/15/2012 9:52:05 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: Travis McGee
Mark my words, once women start showing up with the Black & Gold Ranger tab, the "G.I. Jane" SEAL will be next. You watch they'll show up at DEVGRU and S.F.O.D.-D. It's one thing to get the training -- for what is Ranger School but leadership training? But that's not what the progressives want, is it? They want operational parity. Death by a thousand cuts.
20 posted on 10/15/2012 9:57:52 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: Travis McGee
1000 mg of Ibuprofen to kill the pain prior to their twenty miles humps with full kit on 100 degree F (+) days at Camp Lejeune.

Yeah, I remember those days well. Our medics used to stock huge bottles of the stuff. Called them alternatively Infantry candy or Ranger candy. We gobbled them like Pez.

21 posted on 10/15/2012 10:19:23 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: dagogo redux

This reminds me of a saying we had when I was in. “What’s the difference between the Boy Scouts and the army?”. “The Boy Scouts have adult leadership.”. Compared to now, we didn’t know how good we had it.


22 posted on 10/15/2012 10:40:32 AM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: ExSoldier

“Vitamin M” = 1,000mg Motrin horse pills.


23 posted on 10/15/2012 11:00:34 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: OldGoatCPO

Amos was picked by Rahm Emanuel over all the rest specifically because he’d toe the Obama line. He’s the first air wing Commandant and he’s the reason we have ladies in our Infantry Officer’s Course. He put up a faint protest over the repeal of DADT and then folded like a wet napkin after it was repealed. As one wag put it when Gen Amos got back surgery “maybe they’ll insert a spine”.


24 posted on 10/15/2012 11:33:47 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: ebshumidors

I was in during Zumwalt’s Navy - it was bad, but this is tragic.


25 posted on 10/15/2012 12:22:05 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Travis McGee
Goathumpers IN the WIRE!!!
26 posted on 10/15/2012 3:07:31 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Travis McGee
Know your enemy:

Steven Metz: Islamophobia and the crumbling of American strategy

27 posted on 01/19/2013 8:06:06 PM PST by archy
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