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WAS OBAMA ONCE AN INDONESIAN CITIZEN? HERE’S WHAT WE FOUND WHEN WE WENT THERE LOOKING
The Blaze ^ | November 5, 2012 | Charles C. Johnson

Posted on 11/06/2012 8:42:40 AM PST by Seizethecarp

To find out more about Obama’s time in Indonesia, TheBlaze tracked down Father Bart Janssen. He’s the elderly founder of Santo Fransiskus Assisis who we found in a monastery in Den Bosch, The Netherlands. We asked him, through a Dutch translator, what he remembers of the young Barack Obama.

Janssen doesn’t remember who registered Obama, but he recalls that Obama’s mother didn’t speak Indonesian at the time, so he thinks that both the stepfather and the mother would have been there together to register their son. He also doesn’t think the details in Obama’s registration document should be considered official declarations of his faith or citizenship because it wasn’t a government form and people played loose with such facts at the time. For example, it was typical to register as Indonesian and Islamic just because you were living there, so the religion indicated may just be what his father put down because it was the normal thing to do.

An exit after one term from the White House could act as a catalyst for more information more quickly. An Obama win, on the other hand, would likely keep any information – at least from the president himself — sealed for at least four more years.

Voters on Tuesday, then, may be deciding more than just who the next president is – they could help decide how much more we know about the one we have now.

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


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To: Fred Nerks

Disgusting, indeed!


421 posted on 01/01/2013 3:43:41 PM PST by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D. in L0w and H0lder)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thank you - bad storm that caused no electric/internet for days, then spotty ‘net, then more days of no ‘net, and now the flu.

Icky.

I will happy watch these youtubes.


422 posted on 01/01/2013 3:51:42 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: melancholy

So, I sneak away from our company to peek at FR only to find a ping to look at a picture of one ugly man! (shudder) Of course, anything or anyone connected to 0b0z0 HAS TO BE considered ugly.

Happy New Year!!


423 posted on 01/01/2013 5:37:33 PM PST by azishot (When your life is on the line, lead is worth more than gold.)
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To: All

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Marshall_Davis

“Frank Marshall Davis (December 31, 1905 – July 26, 1987)”

“In 1946, Davis married Helen Canfield, a white Chicago socialite, who was 19 years his junior.”

“The couple had four daughters and a son.”

From FMD’s bio we can see that at age 41 FMD was sufficiently attractive as a middle-aged man to marry an attractive 22-year-old white woman and father five children with her.

In late 1960, only 14 years later at age 55, FMD was in HI at the same time as SAD.

Note that FMD at age 55 WAS ONLY THREE YEARS OLDER THAN BARRY IS NOW and I dare say that millions of Obot women of all ages, including many 18 years olds like SAD was in 1960, would LEAP at the chance to B*NG BARRY, a man in his early-to-mid ‘50’s just like FMD was in 1960.

Barry’s campaign was so shameless that they openly invited near virginal 18-year-old first time voters to fantasize about “doing it to the first time” WITH BARRY.

So I regard it as highly foolish, not to mention racist and ageist, to describe FMD as “old” and “ugly” at age 55 in 1960 when he might have been “in position” to father Barry.

That said, as I have posted many times, Barry’s resemblance to his actual half-brother, David, a resemblance that has led certain delusional FReepers to claim repeatedly that pictures of Baby David are pictures of Barry...that clear resemblance points to BHO Sr. being their shared biological father, as numerous corroborated records and witnesses claim him to be...IMO.


424 posted on 01/01/2013 5:40:00 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: little jeremiah

Sorry you have the flu. Drink lots of tea with honey and take vitamin D3. Hope you feel better soon.


425 posted on 01/01/2013 5:40:00 PM PST by azishot (When your life is on the line, lead is worth more than gold.)
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To: Seizethecarp

FMD?

You’d have to be blind drunk and desperate to have sex with it.


426 posted on 01/01/2013 5:45:09 PM PST by ABrit
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To: Seizethecarp

“So I regard it as highly foolish, not to mention racist and ageist, to describe FMD as “old” and “ugly””

CAUTION: Don’t go that route. You better be an expert in this race/age card game before you play it.

Got it?


427 posted on 01/01/2013 7:10:03 PM PST by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D. in L0w and H0lder)
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To: melancholy
vo·yeur /voiˈyər/Noun

1.A person who gains sexual pleasure from watching others when they are naked or engaged in sexual activity.

(Or likes to imagine it.)

428 posted on 01/01/2013 7:41:59 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: ABrit

I’d say heavily sedated or unconscious.


429 posted on 01/02/2013 5:13:31 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: azishot

I’m living on tea and taking tons of herbs/n/stuff, never did get the hang of vitamins though.

I think I’ll survive...


430 posted on 01/02/2013 6:03:15 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Placemark for reading and replying. Had electricity and internet outages and then flu...


431 posted on 01/02/2013 6:19:45 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Seizethecarp; David; LucyT
This statement is the same false assumption that I clearly debunked.

Really? How so?

Provide a link if you think you can support your claim that the Corsi form was "purported" to be the 1961-62 ORIGINAL record.

It's kind of hard to provide a link to personal communications. Why should he prove anything to you? What would be the benefit?

Why do you continue to post such ignorant nonsense here?
432 posted on 01/05/2013 12:57:12 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Seizethecarp; David; Fred Nerks
The corroboration placing Stanley Ann Dunham Obama at this address in this timeframe is provided by:

1. Toutonghi (address and date of rental plus babysitting)


Really? Her story kept changing. When did you hear what she said?
433 posted on 01/05/2013 1:25:15 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fred Nerks
Have you been diagnosed with a mental illness?

Probably.
434 posted on 01/05/2013 1:26:25 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

It’s become too much for me, I’ve had a gutful. I can’t write a single word without that germ hounding me with misinformation and lies. He contributes nothing, he never provides a source and when he posts an article, if I don’t enter the discussion, the thread dies.
He’ll get no more oxygen from me.


435 posted on 01/05/2013 1:44:27 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Seizethecarp
From FMD’s bio we can see that at age 41 FMD was sufficiently attractive as a middle-aged man to marry an attractive 22-year-old white woman and father five children with her.

I don't believe that either one of them was attractive. But maybe you aren't either, so maybe relative to you, they might be considered by you to be sort of attractive.

FMD was 40 years old, not 41 when they were married.

So I regard it as highly foolish, not to mention racist...

RACIST?

...to describe FMD as “old” and “ugly” at age 55 in 1960...

Really? now “old” and “ugly” is racist? Are you serious?
436 posted on 01/05/2013 1:50:26 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

HERE’S THE ENTIRE BABY-SITTER STORY - NOW REMOVED FROM THE WEB BY THE OWNER OF THE WEBSITE, CHARLETTE LE FEVRE, WHO TURNED ANNA OBAMA INTO STANLEY ANN DUNHAM AND CHANGED THE DATES OF THE ‘BABY-SITTING’ FROM JANUARY 1961 TO A DATE AROUND A YEAR LATER, AND ACCUSED THE BABY-SITTER OF HAVING A POOR MEMORY.

IF NO ONE CAN SEE THROUGH THIS MANIPULATION OF FACTS I CAN ONLY ASSUME IT’S BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT TO KNOW THAT ANNA OBAMA LIVED IN SEATTLE IN JANUARY 1961. AND THAT’S HOW SHE CAME TO BE IN THE POLK DIRECTORY FOR 1961-1962 DISCOVERED AT THE SEATTLE LIBRARY.

CHARLETTE ALSO MANAGES TO ADD 18 MONTHS TO JULY 1959 AND COME UP WITH JANUARY 1962, AND NO ONE NOTICED THAT WAS ONE YEAR OUT! WHERE I COME FROM 18 MONTHS ADDED TO JULY 1959 IS JANUARY 1961.


Baby Sitting Barack Obama on Seattle¹s Capitol Hill
by Charlette LeFevre and Philip Lipson
Seattle Museum of the Mysteries
1/28/09

Mary Toutonghi, 2009

A simple act of of kindness confirms President Barack Obama residence as an infant in 1962 on Seattle¹s Capitol Hill.

As we were researching the residence of the Capitol Hill apartment that Ann Dunham and her son Barack Obama had lived in 1961 to 1962, (1) - a residence that certainly wasn¹t Abraham Lincoln¹s log cabin but none the less historical, we were also able to find one of the former residents listed in a directory- Mary Toutonghi. Much to our delight it turned out Mary actually knew Ann Dunham and had baby sat baby Barack for two months giving insight on his first year and what it must have been like for Ann Dunham as a single parent.

Mary Toutonghi who now lives in Soldatna Alaska, (2) recalls Barack as ³a really alert baby, very happy and a good size². She does not remember him ever crying (although she adds she is sure he likely did but does not remember any undue fussing). She recalls as best she can the dates she baby sat Barack as her daughter was 18 months old and was born in July of 1959 and that would have placed the months of baby sitting Barack in January and February of 1962. [Note: 9/3/09: I believe Mary’s daughter was older than what she remembered which would account for the age discrepency].

During our first interview, Mary referred to Stanley Ann Dunham as ³Anna² not knowing that it was the same name as what was listed in the Seattle City Directory. This verified for us that indeed Mary had known Ann Dunham. Anna was obviously confident enough with Mary to have her baby sit her son Barack and confide in her about her future plans. Mary strains to remember the days back over forty five years ago and relates that she did not know why Anna was in Seattle but remembers she was ³anxious to get back to her husband². ³She told me they would be going to Kenya when she finished her education which she had promised her parents when she had married, but because her husband had an obligation to his tribe she realized he would have to take another wife that was a full blooded Kenyan². Mary commented that ³I don¹t think I could have been that brave.²

Mary explained most of the people in the apartment house were Seniors and were retired so it was most likely she was the only one in the house able to baby sit Barack. Mary was a stay at home mother while her husband was taking classes at the nearby Seattle University. She lived directly below Anna and Barack in the level she calls the basement. She remembers the windows in their basement apartment being at chin level and she had a great view of the yard and trees. One day she recalls with laughter, a squirrel had fallen through the one of the ground level windows and after quickly scampering up its tree scolded the family for a good hour.

Mary goes on to relate after we sent her a 1937 photo of the apartment from Washington State Archives, the apartment Anna and Barack lived in was the on the first main floor and the windows looked out over the street. Anna and baby Barack¹s apartment in the photo were the three paned windows on the far right corner of the building above the garage. The main floor had been divided into four studio apartments about 500 square feet each- indeed, a tiny apartment compared to the White House. The first house of Barack Obama no longer exists having been torn down in 1985. An apartment complex now is on the block along with twin residential towers ³Capitol Park² owned by Seattle Housing Authority.

Mary also laughs when asked for pictures saying ³We were in survival mode and not taking pictures². Mary remembers Anna as ³very mature who never complained and met her obligations². Anna was taking night classes at the University of Washington and according to the University of Washington¹s registrar¹s office her major was listed as History. She was enrolled at the University of Washington in the fall of 1961, took a full course load in the Spring of 1962 and had her transcript transferred to the University of Hawaii in the Fall of 1962.

Along with the Seattle Polk Directory, Marc Leavipp of the University of Washington Registrar¹s office confirms 516 13th Ave. E. was the address Ann Dunham had given upon registering at the University. Today, when one looks back to the small apartment in 1962 in which a kind neighbor helped care for our nation¹s leader and a struggling mother strived to get an education, its inspiring to know that even small gestures in the most difficult of situations can help a baby rise from humble beginnings to achieve greatness.

Ann Dunham later received a Ph.D. in Anthropology from the Univ. of Hawaii.

Mary Toutonghi now lives in Soldatna Alaska and was 2001 President of the Alaska Speech-Language-Hearing Association.

And one little baby grew up to achieve the audacity of hope.

Permission to copy this article is granted provided full context is posted and credited to authors.

Mary Toutonghi photo courtesy of Mary Toutonghi and Jenny Neyman.
House photo was provided by: Washington State Archives, Puget Sound Branch, King County Assessor Property Record Card collection photograph (1937).
1. Barack Obama: from Capitol Hill to Capitol Hill by Charlette LeFevre, www.capitolhilltimes.com
2. Obama baby sitter awaits new era ‹ Soldotna woman eager for former charge¹s reign By Jenny Neyman, Redoubt Reporter, Soldotna AK, 1/20/09


Suggestions for a Seattle Mystery Tour

Self - Tour some alternative cool stuff while you are in Seattle

Bruce Lee’s Gravesite - Lakeview Cemetery, entry on 15th and Galer on Capitol Hill
Seattle Museum of the Mysteries - INSCAPE Building, 815 Airport Way S.

International District:
Panama Hotel Espresso and Tea - Main St. International District China Town, site of National landmark historic bathhouse.
Bruce Lee’s first dojo - studio - Ho Ho Restaurant on Weller St.

Capitol Hill:
Dillitante Chocolate Restaurant on Broadway, corner of Broadway and Mercer
Vivace Coffee - Seattle’s best Roaster known for its sweet crema, on Broadway and Mercer
Jimi Hendrix statue on Broadway across from Seattle Central Community College, Broadway and Pine

Seattle:

Hidden 70 ft. tall Totem Pole at Seattle Center. Just West of the Space Needle across from the Center House Bistro
Pike Place Market:Art work at Pike Place market that marks the place of Princess Angeline - daughter of Chief
Seattle.Location where Barack Obama lived the first year of his life at 516 13th Ave E and Mercer on Capitol Hill - now the Edge Apartments


437 posted on 01/05/2013 2:02:30 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Brown Deer
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TRY TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THIS RIDICULOUS STATEMENT DIDN'T RING BELLS WITH ANYONE?

She recalls as best she can the dates she baby sat Barack as her daughter was 18 months old and was born in July of 1959 and that would have placed the months of baby sitting Barack in January and February of 1962.

DIDN'T ANYONE EVER NOTICE THAT THE BABY-SITTER WAS TELLING CHARLETTE SHE BABY-SAT IN JANUARY 1961?

If it hadn't been January 1961, how would ANNA OBAMA have shown up as a listing in the Seattle Directory for 1961-1962?

438 posted on 01/05/2013 2:57:50 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

It rang bells. It just didn’t ring the bells of those who can do anything. Or it rang their bells, but they are complicit/or/cowards.


439 posted on 01/05/2013 8:08:18 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
It rang bells.

I didn't hear any.

It just didn’t ring the bells of those who can do anything.

If it had rung enough bells then someone who might have been able to do something might have noticed.

Or it rang their bells, but they are complicit

It took them long enough, but eventually they must have noticed the glaring discrepancy, and the article was removed. There was no huge conspiracy behind it, Charlette would always have been on the lookout for another famous person's address to add to her Walking Tours past the homes of famous people.

/or/cowards.

I think that's almost paying them a compliment, the truth might just be that no one noticed because no one bothers to carefully read an article AND THINK...because at that very moment, the next thought must be; if the baby sitter baby-sat for ANNA OBAMA in January 1961, even if that child was a newborn, Anna must have conceived NINE MONTHS BEFORE IN 1960.

And that means ANNA wasn't Stanley Ann Dunham, no matter how Charlette Le Fevre attemtpts to twist her name into Anna from Stanley Ann Dunham.

Stanley Ann Dunham wasn't out of high school when ANNA became pregnant. Read the article, the baby-sitter named the mother ANNA and she DID NOT name the child, Charlette did. The baby-sitter has been called a liar, a drunk, and a woman whose memory cannot be trusted. She told the simple truth at first interview. The lies came later, because finding Anna wasn't supposed to happen.

440 posted on 01/05/2013 9:16:52 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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