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Weekly Preppers' Thread
11/9/12 | Kartographer

Posted on 11/09/2012 6:37:04 AM PST by Kartographer

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To: rfreedom4u

There’s a book called “The Human-Powered Home” that has ideas for things like that, or you can find lots of plans for pedal-powered things with a quich google search.


101 posted on 11/10/2012 7:20:05 AM PST by Ellendra (http://www.ustrendy.com/ellendra-nauriel/portfolio/18423/concealed-couture/)
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To: thackney
Another good survival guide is SAS Survival Guide

From the description: John 'Lofty' Wiseman served in the British Special Air Service (SAS) for twenty-six years. The SAS Survival Handbook is based on the training techniques of this world-famous elite fighting force.

It was recommended by Vince Flynn in his July newsletter.

102 posted on 11/10/2012 10:56:15 AM PST by DukeBillie
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To: DukeBillie

Thank you.


103 posted on 11/10/2012 12:01:16 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: stuartcr

Not really over $20.00 per pound. Each can contains approximately 3 lbs of bacon which has been cooked(removing the weight of fat/liquid.

That works out to be around $4.44 per pound. And you don’t have to cook it, and it lasts for 10 years.

If it tastes good, I’d say that it’s a handy can of food to have in case of TEOTWAWKI, or an earthquake/natural disaster.


104 posted on 11/10/2012 12:26:42 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Kartographer

If you maintain a ping list for this thread, could you please add me to it? Thanks.


105 posted on 11/10/2012 12:28:27 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

9oz x 12cans of edible product = 108oz of edible product @ $140

it wouldn’t matter if it came from a 500# pig, would it?


106 posted on 11/10/2012 6:43:44 PM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr
By the 3rd year of the zombie attack, I’ll probably have run out of ammunition and will be a zombie anyway.

Big difference between the third year of a zombie attack and the third year after a zombie attack.

My best guess is that week #2 after SHTF will look ugly, and a lot of slow-moving zombies will be spotted - and eliminated. Surviving slow zombies will be like a video game in which you rack up points on easy targets with a 99% chance of survival per encounter if you are prepared. The second wave will be larger numbers, better organized, and experienced zombies, and that will be like a much higher level in the games, where even an 80% chance of survival per encounter depends on working together with neighbors and doing everything right on your home territory.

After a month, I don't expect zombie sightings on our home territory to be any more frequent than they are today, and much less frequent after three months. By that point, those who raid homes will have disappeared through natural attrition or switched careers after too many close calls. Then the issues will be the classic ones of grifters, highwaymen, piracy, and perhaps slavery (even if technology takes a step backward, which is not a guarantee, we will still have boats and wagons, with trade along roads and waterways). We still need several years worth of ammunition or reloading capability - venison provides a whole lot of meat for one shot - but I don't expect daily zombie attacks to last very long at all.

107 posted on 11/10/2012 7:02:38 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: stuartcr
Point is it doesn't matter. If you are going to eat bacon, then evaluate the 2 choices we were discussing. Buy a 3 lb package and fry it up or buy the can. You'll get the same amount of eats 9 oz.

To see how much it costs over raw bacon you have to either adjust the costs of the raw bacon to that of the cooked can or vice versa.

A 3 lb package of thick sliced bacon costs between 4-6 dollars, so the price on the canned bacon is competitive with fresh bacon.

That's the only point I was making.

Now as to whether that is the least costly item to buy - decidedly not. A can of beans and rice would give you a whole protein plus fiber and is a lot cheaper, but it would surely be a taste treat to add a slice of crumbled bacon in the mix- totally up to individual taste.

Now, I do love bacon, but don't usually eat it. Between the nitrates and the fat content and family history we don't eat much of it. A nice BLT in the summer with homegrown tomatoes occasionally is about it.

My self I'd really rather have steak. LOL. But in an SHTF situation I'd slurp up the beans and rice with or with out the bacon and count myself lucky.

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it wouldn’t matter if it came from a 500# pig, would it?

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Well, that depends on whether the 500 lb pig rendered out at 9 oz cooked per 3 lb raw slices. After all, some bacon has more fat and shrivels up more than others.

Do you always go out of your way to be snarky?

108 posted on 11/10/2012 7:23:02 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

No matter what 108oz of available bacon for $140 is expensive.


109 posted on 11/10/2012 8:06:44 PM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: greeneyes

No matter what 108oz of available bacon for $140 is expensive.


110 posted on 11/10/2012 8:06:59 PM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

No matter what 108oz of available bacon for $140 is expensive.

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Never said it wasn’t expensive. In fact I pointed out than beans and rice are cheaper didn’t I? Yes I did.

I just pointed out that A 3 lb pack of bacon is also expensive. My point was that the cost of either of these choices if you happen to be a bacon lover is not much different.

The can is not really more expensive than a lot of the BACON sold in grocery stores.

Clearly, bacon in any form is not a cheap food or cheap source of protein.

So I already agreed it wasn’t cheap - so what’s your point to keep posting something I already agreed to?


111 posted on 11/10/2012 10:01:31 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

What’s the point in continuing to answer? I thought you wanted to talk to a snarky person, so I replied.


112 posted on 11/11/2012 12:05:02 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

Well, you were mistaken.


113 posted on 11/11/2012 12:34:31 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Kartographer

Can you please add me to your ping list? Thanks!


114 posted on 11/11/2012 10:57:04 AM PST by VRWCer ( They will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. - ML King)
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To: Kartographer

Please add me to your ping list. Thanks.


115 posted on 11/11/2012 11:10:45 AM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: NeverForgetBataan

If you can’t/won’t tip your server, stay home and make your own food and serve yourself.


116 posted on 11/11/2012 11:26:25 AM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: bjorn14

Our pastor at my Church gave an entire sermon on tipping. He had a server speak who talked about how busy restaurants were on Sunday afternoons which presumably were the after Church crowds, and how they tipped so poorly, setting a poor example.

Like I said, if you can’t/won’t tip, stay home and eat.


117 posted on 11/11/2012 11:30:38 AM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: goodwithagun

Hey, great idea. How can this be successfully accomplished so that we don’t give up our anonymity on the site yet can still contact all the freepers in our area? Any suggestions?


118 posted on 11/11/2012 11:33:51 AM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: thackney

You’re welcome.

It’s a good shelf sitter and looks neat even if one doesnt find a whole lot useful out of the information contained within the pages.

I think we purchased ours from a living history trade fair ~


119 posted on 11/13/2012 6:03:58 AM PST by simplesimon (NEVER forget Benghazi ~!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

That was a nice read Johnny. My parents grew up in the depression and my dad especially told me lots of survival type food stories. Like when they would trap sparrows by where the trains spilled some grain (in Chicago) and ate sparrow stew. He was in the navy in WWII fought in both theaters. He was on a destroyer escort and being a good cook himself could not stand the food on the ship. He was a gunners mate but started asking the cook if he could have some leftover bones, scraps of this and that and he started cooking some soups and stews. Pretty soon he had a line going for what he was cooking. Your story about cooking for the GIs made me think of that - thanks!


120 posted on 11/14/2012 8:07:34 PM PST by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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