Skip to comments.Strategy to Fight Back Against Voter Fraud
Posted on 11/09/2012 7:24:56 PM PST by LTC.Ret
This was not originally my idea --- it was something FRiend "struggle" suggested I do. It was a GREAT idea!!!
I called Gov. Perrys Office as well as his campaign office. I suggested that Gov. Perry publicly challenge the governors of Colorado, Ohio, Florida, etc., to investigate and clean up their voter fraud because Texas citizens are tired of bearing the consequences of malfeasance in other states.
There seemed to be some interest in the idea, and I was asked to send any documentation that I thought might be helpful. I sent the following: http://colorado.mediatrackers.org/2012/09/04/colorado-counties-have-more-voters-than-people/ http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/what-luck-obama-won-dozens-of-cleveland.html http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/good-news-obama-won-county-in-ohio-with.html http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/2012/11/fun-fact-obama-lost-in-every-state-with.html http://www.humanevents.com/2012/09/17/vote-fraud-alert-one-out-of-five-registered-ohio-voters-is-bogus/#.UJsjsmjNq5x.twitter http://www.duffelblog.com/2012/11/military-absentee-ballots-delivered-one-day-late-would-have-swung-election-for-romney/#ixzz2BkNjhn8p
Of course, there are even more that can be included now: http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/in-florida-obama-got-over-99-in-broward.html http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/GEMS%20SOVC%20REPORT.pdf
I am asking all TEXANS and other Freepers who live in Red States to contact your Governors both at the state house and through their campaign offices and ask them to challenge the Governors in fraud-ridden states to investigate, prosecute, and restore the integrity of our VOTE.
If we can get enough voices to be heard, and bring enough pressure to bear, we could get movement on this issue. We SERIOUSLY need it!!!
This is an OPPORTUNITY for some Governor9s0 to step up as a LEADER in an area that has no real down side, especially NOT on the Republican side of the fence. We WANT honest elections --- let's push the issue!!!
Contact info for Gov. Rick Perry is:
Gov. Rick Perry Office of the Governor P.O. Box 12428 Austin, Texas 78711-2428 Information and Referral Hotline [for Texas callers] : (800) 843-5789 Information and Referral and Opinion Hotline [for Austin, Texas and out-of-state callers] : (512) 463-1782 Office of the Governor Main Switchboard [office hours are 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. CST] : (512) 463-2000
Contact the Campaign Texans for Rick Perry 815-A Brazos Street, PMB 217 Austin, TX 78701 Phone: 512-478-3276 Fax: 512-478-4734 firstname.lastname@example.org
What a MESS -— SORRY. Don’t know why it all ran together like that, it’s NOT how I typed it in. Hopefully you can get the message from it anyway.
Regarding the recent Florida election
Official Florida Elections website ^ | 11/09/2012 | sarasmom
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2012 9:40:41 PM by sarasmom
Link to official St Lucie County FL 2012 results http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/GEMS%20SOVC%20REPORT.pdf
SOVC For Jurisdiction Wide, All Counters, All Races UNOFFICIAL RESULTS WITHOUT PROVISIONALS
Only one precinct had less than 113% turnout. 154 registered voters 107 votes 69.48%
The Unofficial vote count? 175,554 registered voters 247,713 vote cards cast (141.10% )
Again please note these numbers supposedly do NOT include Provisional ballots.
Oh yeah people, Allen West is entirely justified in asking for a lockdown on the ballot boxes and machines, and he might even need a few good men and women to ride on down there and help him make them count the actual votes!
One of your examples is from a parody website.
Republican governors should call an emergency meeting and DEAL with this. Period.
There is so much fraud in ALL the states, the corruption is so overwhelming, that NOT to deal with it is treason.
I wish it was easier to spot these, or that they were marked. With as bad as the voter fraud was this election, even the satire looks real.
Which one was the ringer??? THANKS!!!
Would it be possible to do a class action suit?
Inclusion of the Duffelbag story is going to hurt your credibility with the Governors. You need to vet the sources properly before assuming they are reliable.
You should also visit Truethe Vote.com to see how your efforts can be coordinated with them and other organizatioons with common interests.
the duffle one. military ballots one day later.
I remember gore conceding the election to bush, then changing his tune before the big chad fiasco. Do you?
Hanging chads became the democrat call that bush stole the election.
Therefore, no republican wants to do the same thing. We know that bush didn’t steal the election, we know that gore called too soon because the powers that be didn’t let him in on it.
So, when real fraud occurs, none of us wants to identify with sore losing democrats by calling fraud.
But , this loss WAS FRAUD.
I don’t care how people view me because of my stance. I’m not gonna be PC’d in to silence. Not on this forum anyway.
No. The courts will rule the plaintiffs lack standing and thee courts lack subject jurisdiction.
“Which one was the ringer???”
The one about the military vote, except that for the most part, it is actually true. The military vote has been maximim screwed with.
You’re right, they would rule voters don’t have standing and the DOJ would slay it anyway. I feel like filing one myself in Federal Court, if I had the extra money.
The one about the military votes arriving late was from a satirical website, but it sounded real enough to fool me.
The fraud will be 10x worse next time when they repeal the term limits for Presidents
We need to quit accepting 50/50 splits, when we know it is far from the truth and tell it like it really is. 50/50 splits has gotten the Left very far because they know it sounds plausible. It doesn’t especially when it has been used by both Left and Right more times than I can count. Those odds just don’t happen unless, of course, one is cheating.
We also need to stop thinking courts are the final answer.
Thanks for letting me know!!! I followed back links from what I viewed as a reliable source to the blog article. It is truly bad when the integrity of the vote is so compromised that satire seems plausible. I have notified my contacts about the incorrect information. Thanks again!!!
Obamacare was the largest fraud ever implemented between our elected officials, the WH and our court system.
What I would like to see is being able to get my entire ballot shown online by just entering the stub number of my ballot-—no name. I would trust the system more.
That is a good idea -— if a lowly cash register can spit out receipts all day, surely a high tech voting machine could do it as well. Like you said, no names, just a code number. I’m nearly 100% sure there are folks on this list that could make that happen.
Today I wrote to RNC Chmn Priebus, urging that he and the Committee undertake a campaign to publicize and demand an end to fraudulent voting, noting that unless this is accomplished there will be no hope of ever electing a Republican president. I told the Chmn that absent such a clean-up I saw little reason to continue voting in national elections, being tired of being taken for a fool.
A steady stream of such a request MIGHT get results.
Good idea. Thanks.
Snope.com is panning the Duffelbag satire. It’s an old Communist disinformation tactic. They take a true story and falsify certain aspects of it. They proceed to disseminate it as rumor or news among their enemies. The unsuspecting enemies of the Communists fail to recognize the strawman and poison pill as they adopt the wrong information amongst many true reports. Then the Communists tear down their own strawman to damage the credibility of their enemies who mistakenly trusted the strawman. The Communists then use the mistake to ridicule their enemies and anyone else who dares to speak out about any of the trues reports in the manner Saul Alinsky championed.Such was the purpose of the McCarthy anti-Communist activities. Promote the misperception of error and mean intent to hide the real crimes. The same technique was used to demoralize opposition to the Bolsheviks and Communists in Imperial Russia a century ago.
This an opportunity to teach a valuable lesson to American voters ignorant of how they are being manipulated by the Democrats and the Communists who have joined the leasership of the Democrats.
They’re already talking 2016 on Fox as of this morning. There is going to be someone out there who has unspoken aspirations that needs some way to step out of the crowd and get noticed.
Taking on this vote fraud issue could be just the ticket, especially since there is so much information to be had now that it is almost impossible to deny any longer. Someone like a Governor who is not involved in a contested election, so that it can’t be called sour grapes or poor loser, could garner a LOT of earned credit and publicity for this.
I’m not sure what the exact numbers are, but a significant percentage of American voters support Voter ID and other efforts to protect the vote. These people would likely rally to the person who led the charge to clean up voter fraud.
Scott Walker as of now is the only one I would even be slightly excited about. No retreads!
That would make to much sense. But it would not prevent a million dead people from holding otherwise apparently legitimate stub numbers.
Anywhere that 184% of your registered voters actually cast a ballot in an election -— someone’s got some ‘splainin to do, as Lucy said.
look at St. Lucie County, Fl ALMOST ALL THE PRECINCTS WELL INTO THE 130-160% TURNOUT
Reg Cards % turnout
4815 6550 136.03%
1849 2352 127.20%
1996 2566 128.56%
2694 3929 145.84%
2756 4378 158.85%
590 719 121.86%
2000 2804 140.20%
4460 6215 139.35%
2871 3663 127.59%
2948 4081 138.43%
3665 5609 153.04%
3181 4670 146.81%
3202 4119 128.64%
1835 2219 120.93%
2556 2909 113.81%
1024 1443 140.92%
2737 3631 132.66%
3840 5395 140.49%
3447 4475 129.82%
1832 2513 137.17%
3555 4847 136.34%
4122 5557 134.81%
1796 2568 142.98%
561 785 139.93%
1704 2748 161.27%
379 557 146.97%
1757 2313 131.64%
1720 2301 133.78%
Some of us have spent decades trying to think of ways to prevent vote fraud, but it is not very easy when there are too many corrupt people invovled in the process. As any accounting auditor can tell you, cash register receipts can be usedd to commit massive financial frauds which are sometimes difficult to detect, especially when the leasership of the organization is a co-conspirator in the fraud. It’s much worse with voting due to the secret ballot and compromised voter registration procedures.
While it is not immune to corruption, one of the best ways to severely restrict the opportunity for fraud is to return to limiting voter precincts to no more than the number of voters who can know, recognize, and observe their vote as if they are in a townhall meeting. At every step of the way the vote tallies are then escorted by auditable paper trails to successively higher authorities, so any attempt can be immediately detected and immediately stopped on the spot. Election officials caught red-handed wuld be subject to trial and punishment under laws mandating permanent loss of the right to vote or hold any public office of trust, imprisonment for not less than one or more decadees, or punishment including capital punishment for the leaders orchestrating large scale vote fraud.
Furthermore, none of the above will do one whit of good so long as the public cannot convene its own grand jury without the approval of the public prosecutor or district attorney. Only then can the corrupt judiciary and corrupt legislators be held accountable for corruption in their offices.
Are you serious?
Taxes without representation are not moral or legal. We the People...the very payingest taxpayers in this country...were just royally and bipartisanly
disenfranchised of our vote in this election.
Direct disenfranchisement refers to actions that explicitly prevent people from voting or having their votes counted, as opposed to indirect techniques, which attempt to prevent peoples votes from having an impact on political outcomes (e.g., gerrymandering, ballot box stuffing, stripping elected officials of their powers).
And by not challenging it, fighting it..and getting in their faces about it...we grant permission for it to continue....and even worse...increase the probability of needing to resort to the cartridge box for resolution.
We have no further moral or legal obligation Federal Taxation at this point until this is corrected....and the vote is legitimate and non-corrupt.
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As I said on another thread, we have mostly Republican governors across the country. WE can organize around forcing our governors to at least pay attention to this. ORGANIZE and follow through. PA’s governor is a pubbie. FLA’s governor is a pubbie. Go to it starting first thing Monday morning. Burn up their phone lines and fax machines and don’t let up.
I know this is a HUGE task, and that many things have been tried before. I also know we can either do SOMETHING, or we can complain to ourselves and nothing changes -— and it gets even WORSE next time.
Maybe contacting our Red State and Republican Governors won’t do anything -— but what if it starts the ball rolling in the right direction.
These Democrats/progressives/liberals/statists want to win/cheat, but they really DON’T want to get caught at it and face paying for their crimes. Bringing these unbelievable numbers out into the light of day is going to cause questions to be asked that could lead to uncomfortable answers.
And contacting Governors is EASY -— something each and every one of us can do with just a few minutes time. So why not???
Imagine the surprise on a Governor’s face when he is told that 1,000-2,000-3,000 calls/faxes/emails came in today from constituents asking him to publicly challenge the Governors in the fraud-ridden states of Colorado, Ohio, Florida, etc., to investigate, prosecute, and restore the integrity of our VOTE.
Don’t forget to contact the Governors’ campaigns as well. These guys want to get re-elected, and a campaign can certainly amplify a good idea if it looks like it has legs. Hearing it from us AND their campaigns cranks up the decibels.
Why don’t you post this thread on the Texas message board?
Thank you for taking action to stop fraud. I believe the ony way to eliminate it is to completely purge voter rolls in every state and require ID to vote.
For those who think it’s a bogus issue, remember what damage ACORN did and that was one outlet.
I’m not sure how -— instructions???
Click on the Texas flag on your profile page. It will take you to the Texas message board and there is a post box there. I posted it to the PA message noard as well, but only you lucky guys flying the Texas flag can post to the Texas board, (unless I change my location.)
Thanks for posting that. Very informative.
Which one is the parody?
It’s being found in all the swing states or nearly all.
You’ve got to be kidding me. Isn’t that right in Limbaugh’s back yard and not a peep from him about it.
See post 51 for a possible explanation (post by snowislander)
Each voter received two ballot cards Florida had a large number of constitutional amendments proposed, and it required two ballots to cover all of the races and amendments.
The first two pages of the “Statement of Votes Cast” report are somewhat misleading when they show “cards cast” as exceeding 100%, and do not indicate blatant fraud. You should divide “cards cast” by two to get the number of voters participating.
It seems like states could just start over rather than purging voter rolls. Make constant public announcements telling people that NOBODY is now registered to vote and everybody should get registered in the next two years and bring your ID when you register. If you do not have a DL, bring your birth certificate and that will get you a DMV Photo ID card when you register. Now the issue of showing ID when you vote is solved because ALL registered voters would have a photo ID.
this is funny, but kind of sad too. the elections head said the following (from an nbc affiliate)
you all are going to laugh at this, but this IS the quote for the elections head for the county (real msm story, NBC affiliate)Ballots also “left” in a library.
Gertrude Walker, Supervisor of Elections for St. Lucie County, said she is not sure why the Election Summary Report lists “Cards Cast” as 141%. “They may have had something like that in Palm Beach County, but we’ve never seen that here,” she said.
Published on Jul 6, 2012 Clinton Eugene Curtis testified under oath, before the Ohio State legislature, that he wrote a program to rig elections. This program would flip the total vote from the real winner to the candidate who had been pre-selected to win by the electronic vote counting machines.
THE SURVIVAL OF LIBERTY DEPENDS ON MAKING THIS INFORMATION KNOWN.
Excellent. Thank you. If we could out together a list of links and hard info to present in this thread, we could make hard copies to present a good case.
I called my governor’s office yesterday. I’m in Pennsylvania. We almost had a voter ID law, but it was as good as struck down several weeks before the election. You would be asked to show your ID, but could still vote if you didn’t have one. Yeah, stupid, I know! I told the lady in the gov’s office that I was sick of my vote being wasted every election and was sick of the voter fraud in Philly and I want a stronger ID law. She said it’s on Gov. Corbett’s agenda.