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DIY: Shovel AK [guy modifies garden shovel into AK!]
Northeastshooters.com ^ | 11/22/12 | Boris

Posted on 11/25/2012 9:50:09 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe

"On this Thanksgiving Day, let me say this: God Bless America the only country on this [bleep] planet where you still have the freedom to build AKs in defense of Motherland! The only country where a [bleep] shovel can become an awesome weapon of death and destruction."

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TOPICS: Gardening; Hobbies; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: akbuild; banglist
Don't know how practicable this would be for someone without machine tools in the garage, but it was sure fun to read.
1 posted on 11/25/2012 9:50:16 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe
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To: NewJerseyJoe

My Mom used my M4 bayonet for digging weeds.
She wrecked it real good.
What could I say?
She still uses that thing today LOL


2 posted on 11/25/2012 9:56:10 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Saw that last night, this was hilarious and very clever.


3 posted on 11/25/2012 9:56:51 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

The only machine tools he needed were:

- a lathe to do the chambering, and he really didn’t need that, it just sped things up.

- a drill press to drill the holes in the receiver and the gas port in the barrel.

You can chamber a barrel with a piloted set of reamers (a roughing reamer and a finish reamer) by hand, it will just take you a long time.

I keep telling people: If you want to make a gun, it’s not that difficult. The problem seems to be that too many people think that “making a gun” means “making an AR-15” instead of just “making a gun.”

AK’s were designed to be rushed out of factories that made tractors and farm equipment. The design has sloppy tolerances galore, uses stamped sheet steel and is rough as a cob. The only thing he really needed was the rifled barrel blank, which requires the capability to drill, ream and rifle a deep hole. That’s beyond the capabilities of most garage mechanics, but the rest of the gun? Pffft. Easy.


4 posted on 11/25/2012 9:57:14 AM PST by NVDave
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To: NewJerseyJoe
"keep da shovel leave the PSL"


5 posted on 11/25/2012 9:57:50 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Such ingenuity and resourcefulness! That guy is one great American!


6 posted on 11/25/2012 9:58:26 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

So much talent. So little to work with. One wonders what a good mill and some decent tools and kits would do.


7 posted on 11/25/2012 9:59:28 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: humblegunner; Eaker

It’s actually worth going to the site to read this. It’s on a forum and is complete with step by step pictures.

Could be a winter project for someone with a couple of tools in their garage.

If you make one, I want to be the second or third person to fire it.

(Or ninth, tenth - whatever. Not first.)


8 posted on 11/25/2012 10:06:57 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

... from my cold dead hands...


9 posted on 11/25/2012 10:09:41 AM PST by RedMonqey (America: It was a good run.)
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To: shibumi

I would have fired it straight-up, first time.

His barrel was thicker than normal, and he was using a stock bolt from the Romanian parts kit. As long as the bore looked clear and his firing pin protrusion was within spec, I’d have fired it without hesitation.

What he made had no direct involvement with chamber pressures.


10 posted on 11/25/2012 10:09:41 AM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave

Wry humor not on the menu for today, eh?


11 posted on 11/25/2012 10:13:18 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Gaffer

Once you have a good lathe, you can make almost anything in guns.

Once you have a good lathe and a bunch of ingenuity, you can even make barrels.

Harry Pope did.

People really should go to Ogden and look at the re-creation of the Browning Bros. shop in the museum. There is no mill in that shop.

There is, however, a milling attachment for the little lathe in the shop... and that’s all you need.

Someone who had an old 9 to 12” swing lathe, a set of collets, a long enough bed, a milling attachment and a steady rest can do almost anything involved with firearms machining.

The problem is the cost of the machine tools. It’s that Americans have forgotten how to do this stuff. 100 years ago, there were several widely-read magazines telling garage tinkerers how to do these things. Popular Mechanics and Popular Science used to tell people how to do these things from the 1960’s going backwards. High school shops were well equipped with machine tools.

Then we got over-run with the faux intellectuals peddling four-year degrees in utterly useless and vapid bullshit to every set of parents out there, and we became a nation of know-nothing liberal arts majors who can’t remember which way to spin the lug nuts on their tired when changing a flat.


12 posted on 11/25/2012 10:14:13 AM PST by NVDave
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To: shibumi

No, not really. Got too many guns to work on, too little time.


13 posted on 11/25/2012 10:15:09 AM PST by NVDave
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Superb!!


14 posted on 11/25/2012 10:24:39 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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To: NVDave

Lathe is good. Milling machine better......a good broach cutter is important for those discriminating machinists.....


15 posted on 11/25/2012 10:27:35 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Shoot, shovel, and shut up.


16 posted on 11/25/2012 10:40:36 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Gaffer

You can make your own broach cutters from drill rod... on a lathe no less, harden and heat treat them yourself, and then shove them through with an arbor press (or other press).

There are guys who make their own bolt action receivers from scratch, after making their own tooling from scratch, and all they had to start with was something like a South Bend 9A lathe.

Sure, a Bridgeport or Deckel mill would be a nice addition to any shop, all I’m saying is that they’re not necessary and gunsmiths of 100 years ago made guns from stem to stern without any mill in their shop - because milling machines of their day were far too large for most gunsmithing shops.

The Bridgeport style of mill is a fairly recent development in machine tooling; before that, most mills were horizontal mills, most of which were far too heavy for small shops. The vertical mills of those days were also huge, rigid monsters which usually were 5,000lbs or more in weight. In fact, the guys who started the Bridgeport company started their business by trying to peddle a vertical head that you could hang on the predominate horizontal mills of the day - then in the late 1930’s, they finally decided “screw it, let’s just mount the head on our own mill table...” and the ubiquitous turret mill we know today was born. The earliest round-ram Bridgeports date to something like 1938.


17 posted on 11/25/2012 10:44:05 AM PST by NVDave
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To: NewJerseyJoe
Plowshares into swords?
18 posted on 11/25/2012 10:55:30 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
Calibrated "C" clamp!


19 posted on 11/25/2012 11:09:51 AM PST by jaz.357 (Welcome to hell. Here's your accordion.)
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To: CrazyIvan

touche!


20 posted on 11/25/2012 11:45:00 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

He could weld a shovel blade on to a bayonet handle; cap ‘em and bury ‘em, all with the same one versitile tool.

Now go out and look for a shovel ready job with that!

In the 1880s they made a trowel bayonet for the trapdoor Springfield rifle that was supposed to work for entrenching as well as CQB. It never really caught on and they are collector’s items today.


21 posted on 11/25/2012 11:48:57 AM PST by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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To: shibumi

Awesome!


22 posted on 11/25/2012 11:53:43 AM PST by humblegunner
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23 posted on 11/25/2012 1:27:34 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: tiger-one

Check this guy out. Glad he’s on our side.


24 posted on 11/25/2012 2:21:37 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: NVDave

Anyone know how to cut Rifling groves ping?


25 posted on 11/25/2012 3:20:47 PM PST by HammerT (The Obama Recession, you bone it you own it.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Good one!


26 posted on 11/25/2012 4:09:27 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: HammerT

There are three ways to cut rifling:

1. Single-point cutter. This is the oldest method, and used to be used on sine bar rifling machines. The cutter cuts the groove, about 0.0001” per pass at a time. What comes out the end of the barrel looks like dark oily dust, not metal chips. Your twist is determined by the sine bar rotating the mandrel on which the cutter is mounted. Typically, the cutter is pulled through the bore, not pushed.

The rifling groove can be made deeper on successive passes by adjusting the cutter.

2. Broach or button-cut rifling. The broach/button will cut 2 to 5 grooves at a time by being pushed through the bore. Some broaches will cut the full depth of the rifling in one pass by using successively deeper cutting teeth in the pre-determined twist rate.

3. Hammer forging of a cold barrel onto a rifled mandel - this is now used in most big-time production. The barrel’s bore is slightly oversized of what the final bore dimension is, and there’s a hardened mandrel onto which the barrel is squeezed under very high pressures in a machine that hammers the outside of the barrel inwards onto the mandrel. The steel of the barrel distorts around the rifling flights on the mandrel, and then the mandrel is withdrawn from the bore. Presto, you have a rifled bore to size - but you have a lot of stress now bound up in the barrel.

It is generally accepted that the highest quality barrels are developed by single point cut rifling in method (1). It is also the slowest. The machines that were used to cut rifling in this manner were made before WWI, and are still in active use by many high-end barrel makers to this day.


27 posted on 11/25/2012 4:54:57 PM PST by NVDave
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To: shibumi

Very cool!


28 posted on 11/25/2012 5:37:28 PM PST by Eaker ( If a soldier demands that you carry his gear for a mile, carry it two miles.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

just needs a hankerchief on there.

then he can shoot,shovel AND shutup.


29 posted on 11/26/2012 10:26:50 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: jaz.357
Calibrated "C" clamp!

Open end wrench [adjustable]:


30 posted on 11/26/2012 10:49:56 AM PST by archy
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To: NewJerseyJoe

ATF raid on illegal manufacturer in...


31 posted on 11/26/2012 12:24:25 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Yo-Yo
Joel 3:
7 “See, I am going to rouse them out of the places to which you sold them, and I will return on your own heads what you have done. 8 I will sell your sons and daughters to the people of Judah, and they will sell them to the Sabeans, a nation far away.” The Lord has spoken.

9 Proclaim this among the nations:
Prepare for war!
Rouse the warriors!
Let all the fighting men draw near and attack.
10 Beat your plowshares into swords
and your pruning hooks into spears.
Let the weakling say,
“I am strong!”

32 posted on 11/26/2012 12:48:32 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: All

33 posted on 12/05/2012 3:57:50 PM PST by marktwain
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Cool, One less tool to pack around when you shoot, shovel, and shut-up.


34 posted on 12/05/2012 4:25:53 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: NVDave

Thank you kindly for your response.

Part of the rational for the inquiry is to develop methods by which the individual can make their own firearms.

Small metal lathes could be utilized for the purpose but the rifling issue seemed to be the most vexing in completion of a weapon barrel.

That being said, it would seem like option number one would be most apropos. It would seem like the common element to all three ways is a mandrel that extends down the bore of the barrel. While option 1 may take the most time it seems to be the simplest and easiest to setup. The length of time required to complete the operation isn’t as critical as the ability to attain the finished product.


35 posted on 12/06/2012 5:34:09 AM PST by HammerT (The Obama Recession, you bone it you own it.)
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