Posted on 12/02/2012 9:15:11 PM PST by Seizethecarp
Carl Gallups of PPSimmons says he "has exclusive inside information that a surprising and potentially devastating eligibility event is scheduled to happen before the January 6th Electoral College Certification. Perhaps by the middle of December. This event most likely will be aired on national cable television and around the world exposing Obama's ineligibility. The person doing the exposing is a very important person with constitutional standing to do the exposing of the evidence against Obama."
(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ...
>>> Let me repeat: NOTHING!!!!!! will come of all this. Nothing.
The last 4 years would suggest you are correct.
I too have lost hope in our elected representatives.
That is not good reason though to cower from demanding they adhere to the letter of our law, because we are afraid of being called a “birther”.
That’s how Bennett interpreted it even though he had an attorney inform him that by law Onaka’s verification must be legally presumed to confirm that Obama’s birth facts CANNOT be verified.
IOW, Bennett chose to ignore what the attorney told him so that he could misinterpret Onaka’s disclosure to mean exactly the opposite of what it legally means.
Maybe Bennett got some glossy photos in the mail ..... and had a sudden change of heart.
Coward. Traitor.
Every minute spent wasting time trying to prove Obama is ineligible is time that could be spent on working with other people to make sure we get a conservative candidate for president next time. I’m astounded that would-be rational people seriously believe they’re going to oust Obama out of office. It’s not going to happen.
I dont disagree with you. The SS registration is a joke. The birth certificate is the are where you will NEVER see the real one, as it is sealed. There is something on it that will never see the light of day.
But, I simply wish someone that could generate some interest—some real, unbiased interest—would get on this train.
The issue is that it doesn’t matter as much now, and it will matter less with each passing day. The deal is done, and we have our devil.
Which is why I can't see why they (the lawyers) are not aiding and abetting a crime. Treason, most likely.
Is there a disclaimer on the government website?
This is fraud. That PDF file is not what it represents itself to be.
Don't these government websites have legal weight, authority and credibility? How are citizens suppose to get true and accurate legal information?
Just posting that PDF file, in and of itself, has to be a crime without some type of warning.
“This is BS. If these folks had anything, other than a misguided sense of importance, they would have announced it the day after they found it”. WHAT? They’ve had it for years, & it is real. They are just presenting it in a venue where the overwhelming evidence, and well organized, and clearly presented data will be seen by lots of people.
Bennett is an accountant by training, but doubtless had a staff of top lawyers advising him, especially ones on loan from the Romney campaign advising him on how a federal judge or jury would interpret the HI “authentication.” I expect that they told Bennett he would get the same ruling as Judge Carter predicted he would give in dicta which is if HI authorities say Barry was born in HI, then even if Kenya were to certify Barry's birth there Judge Carter would rule that it is still established as a legal fact that he was born in HI until proved otherwise in HI.
The ad hominem is unwarranted.
For four years we’ve been promised numerous crushing blows destroying BHO’s eligibility, yet absolutely nothing happened. Nothing.
Those unconvinced by yet more vague promises of ineligibility are, understandably, skeptical.
That the skepticism is derided as “oh, you support the Obama?” is presumptive proof of further flatulence.
Put up or shut up.
If you can’t back up the claim in short order, YOU are the one duly suspect of being a Leftist agent.
Put up or shut up.
>>> For four years we’ve been promised numerous crushing blows destroying BHO’s eligibility, yet absolutely nothing happened. Nothing
Why did “nothing” happen? Was it because we have elected representatives unwilling to enforce the law? or was it because we have a corrupt media? or maybe it’s because nobody wanted to be labeled a “birther”?
OR, is it because there is nothing to the claims that Obama is ineligible?
You are right... we have 4 years of evidence and court hearings... and nothing came of it. WHY?
What is it that you really want here? for birthers to shut up? or for the truth to come out?
Are you mad at the media for suppressing the truth? or at birthers for making fools of the republicans?
What exactly is it that you want me to “put up”?
Clearly, the liberal tactic to suppress this question over Obama’s eligibility is to label those seeking the truth as conspiracy theorists or kooks... Sounds like you are labeling me as a kook.
I think its fair for me to ask a fellow freeper where they stand on the issue. We have had 4 years of court cases and a legal investigation which found forgery. Surely you have had time yourself to reach a conclusion.
What is it?
There is nothing left for me to “put up”.
I simply refuse to tolerate those who tell me to “shut up”.
It’s one thing for you to be skeptical about the republican party’s ability or desire to settle this issue on eligibility.
It’s another thing for you to believe that Obama is a NBC, and resent those who challenge it.
So which is it?
The Hi authority refused to say that Obama was born in Hawaii. That’s the point. A critical point, since Hawaii law says that if they CAN verify something, they have to.
I have spoken with 3 attorneys regarding the legal reasoning on this, and it is sound. I first realized it was sound when I saw that the Mississippi Democratic Executive Committee’s lawyer - one of the Fogbowers - fashioned his request specifically to accommodate a legally non-valid Hawaii birth certificate. So I’ve got 4 attorneys agreeing with the legal reasoning - including 2 whose previous legal arguments depended on the claims on the HI BC being true and one who actually acted on Obama’s behalf. That’s quite a consensus.
In addition, I’ve spoken to the counsel for NE’s SOS John Gale, who at first denied that Bennett even asked for Obama’s date of birth to be verified. Ultimately he said he didn’t have to care what Hawaii told Arizona, Obama could have a Christmas card from when he was little that proved where he was born, and even if Bauer, Villaigarosa, and Germond were sitting in jail for committing perjury and fraud with that OCON Obama would still be on the ballot because Nebraska law never says that the OCON has to be LAWFUL (non-perjurious and non-fraudulent). In short, even that lawyer could not refute the legal reasoning and had to resort to “Ït doesn’t matter anyway.”
At this point, given what’s happened with these lawyers of every stripe, I doubt that any lawyer told Bennett the legal reasoning was faulty. They may have said no judge would ever act on it, just as many might have advised Jews that Hitler would never relent based on their pleadings. But that is a judgment of the judge and Hitler, not of the people making the pleadings or pointing out the legal facts.
:)I’m just trying to picture Biden as President-What a ride.
“What exactly is it that you want me to “put up”?”
Proof of the Obama’s ineligibility.
Duh.
Of course I want to see it. A lot of people do.
But you have nothing but insults for those saying “so...where is it already? It’s been four years, we’ve heard lots of promises, and seen nothing.”
If there is proof, there is no reason why you should have no problems showing it to me right now.
Instead, you give insults.
Put up or shut up.
Your empty self-righteous condescension is tiresome.
If there’s proof, great - show it already.
If not ... well, maybe there isn’t any.
Put up or shut up.
>>> Proof of the Obama’s ineligibility.
Duh. Of course I want to see it. A lot of people do.
1st of all, the burden of proof is upon Obama to present the proper documents that prove his eligibility.
The burden of proof should not be on us to prove otherwise.
You cannot prove a negative.
You should know that.
FACT: Obama presented a fraudulent document as proof that he was born in Hawaii. That alone should be enough to disqualify him.
IF Obama was born in Hawaii, there is no reason why the real BC would not be given as evidence.
Here is your evidence:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3KBv735ko4
Does it matter at all that the HI state registrar, when required by law to verify whatever he CAN (to AZ SOS Ken Bennett, KS SOS Kris Kobach, and the Mississippi Democratic Executive Committee), refused to verify ANY birth facts for Obama and refused to verify that the White House image is a “true and accurate representation of the original record on file” or even that the “ïnformation contained in” the White House BC image is identical to the “information contained in” the genuine record at the HDOH?
Onaka did verify that the claims that are on the WH image match the original record, so the only lawful reason to fail to verify that those claims are true is if the record itself is legally non-valid. And every verification Onaka has made is consistent with his disclosure to Ken Bennett that the HI BC is legally non-valid and his disclosures to both Bennett and Kobach that the WH image is a forgery.
I’ve also shown on my blog that the 1960-64 birth index was altered to contain names from legally non-valid BC’s, so even Obama’s name in the birth index says nothing about the VALIDITY of the birth certificate HI has for him.
All along the argument has been about the absence of evidence. At this point, though, we’ve got Hawaii itself saying that they don’t have a legally-valid birth record for Obama. If he had really been born at Kapiolani as the record claims, he would have a legally-valid record. Even with a home birth, if he had been examined by any HI doctor within a month of his birth he would have a legally valid record. The lack of a valid record is extremely problematic to any claim he might make regarding a Hawaii birth. As it is he has no legally-established birth facts based on a Hawaii birth certificate, and if he’s used a birth certificate for legal purposes his whole life long, it’s been a birth certificate from somewhere else...
Documentation regarding the verification at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/complete-klayman-letter-to-bauer.pdf
More explanation at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/wheel-of-fortune-v-family-feud-final.pdf
Documentation about the 1960-64 birth index including names from non-valid BC’s is at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/birth-index-includes-nonvalid-records-_documentation-included_.pdf
Conservatism won’t be dead, but it won’t be from lack of some “conservatives” going off on wild-goose chases. Obama will definitely serve out another four years, but conservatism assuredly will not be dead. But wasting time trying to prove he’s ineligible or illegitimate will only make sure conservative energy is not put to good use.
I know all that.
Still isn’t proof.
Quit arguing with me (I’m on your side) and make something stick already.
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