Posted on 12/19/2012 4:39:31 AM PST by Solson
If they come to take our guns, who do you think?
Unintended consequence: MILLIONS of new NFA weapons-holders. And that makes us realize we can easily own full-auto as well.
“There already are illegal gun registrations. NICS was specifically banned from keeping records, yet, after years of Janet Reno she kept it.”
Right now if you purchase a semi auto rifle you get an instant online background check. The ATF can come in and look at those records but they cannot take them offsite. If you have a CCL then there is no background check for weapons purchase.
If BHO were to try to re-classify semi autos as Class Three weapons then you would be talking about getting finger printed, a criminal background check, registering each and every individual weapon and a $200 fee for each weapon. In addition you would be required to have a gun safe at your home and all weapons woud have to be locked up in that safe when not in use. You would be subject to unannounced ATF inspections at anytime of the day or night and you would have to notify the ATF if you moved the weapons to any other location.
Handguns are IMMEDIATELY after this.
NFA weapons, all.
Insofar as SBRs are regulated as they are, and those regulations are longstanding (since 1934), and the only thing separating AWs from SBRs is the number 16”, one EO is very viable.
He issues the EO, BATFE enforces it, issue gets tied up in courts for years while FFLs fall trying to fight of circumvent it.
Research “the Supreme Court has made its ruling, now let them enforce it.”
Shotguns technically fall under NFA as “destructive devices” for having bores over 0.5”, but are exempted for “sporting purposes” - which the Street Sweeper clearly isn’t.
“All I am doing is making a prediction, do not doubt me.”
OK.....I may be willing to sample a bit of crow.....if you warm it up first. The following article supports your position, and did warm the cockles of my heart a bit.
http://www.naturalnews.com/038391_gun_confiscation_executive_orders_cops.html
It’s just so easy to lose faith and hope in this environment. I’ll try to keep a stiff upper lip a bit longer.
So it would be pretty easy to designate long guns as “destructive devices” - thus under the NFA and requiring stamps, etc.
This approach (NFA reclassification) was floated post election - before Sandy Hook.
They can be that stupid.
Shotguns, yes.
Rifles, at most, would take changing one number.
Who knows - I suspect Obama would target rifles under the “any other weapon” clause. Long guns being registered in border states(southern border). They could wrap up about 30 states if they said any state on a coast or border was a “border state”. Lots and lots of bad ideas coursing through my brain.
There are several states which prohibit all but law enforcement (in the performance of their duties) from obtaining NFA licensing; in those states, if the AR, AK, etc. are deemed NFA weapons, they will have to be confiscated by state authorities. I don’t know if the courts (or even these states) would want to go with confiscation. I wonder what the ACLU’s position on that would be, since it would require a violation of the 4th, 5th, and 2nd Amendments. (I know the ACLU does not support the 2nd.)
AOWs have a $5 transfer tax. Little more than just registration, not the financial hindrance he’s looking for.
Ummm. Tell ya what, next time the Clerk of a United States District Court returns a pleading on the grounds that the court doesn't really exist, I'll ask you to tutor me.
In the meantime, I'll do you a favor, here is a great deal on lead foil, which beats aluminum foil by orders of magnitude:
http://www.atnuke.com/nuclear/lead/leadfoil.html
what’s the matter, incapable of reading the law or do you just prefer to go through life on pure speculation?
http://www.supremelaw.org/sls/31answers.htm
“There are several states which prohibit all but law enforcement (in the performance of their duties) from obtaining NFA licensing; in those states, if the AR, AK, etc. are deemed NFA weapons, they will have to be confiscated by state authorities”
Since you stated, I will ask:
Which states?
They already have taken the first shots, multiple times. While not all of them have been firearm-discharges there are notable incidents where they did (Waco, Ruby Ridge)... they have been "taking shots" at our liberties for a long time now.
Why do you think they can have the TSA search anyone flying, despite being restricted from doing so w/o a warrant? Why do you think they can try people multiple times for the same crime by weaseling around and saying the same [set of] actions broke some law [or broke it in a different way]? Why do you think that federal, state, county, and city "Law Enforcement" don't hesitate to enforce statutes/ordinances contrary to their Constitution?
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