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What you’ll see in the rebellion
bob-owens.com ^ | 28 December, 2012 | Bob Owens

Posted on 12/31/2012 9:54:19 AM PST by marktwain

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To: RIghtwardHo

“Furthermore, if anyone thinks that gun owners are going to stand against a government as powerful as the U.S., and be successful on any level, they are under a severe delusion...”

Explain Afghanistan. Hell, explain the failed WOD already underway in this country. We’re not giving up our guns.


61 posted on 12/31/2012 12:45:56 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: marktwain

It is an interesting take on things. He declined to mention what other Nations might do if things deteriorate that much - we are a ripe plum in the big picture and I imagine a few may decide to band together to “pick” the plum. I wonder how a snag like that might play out if the People still have enough weapons in circulation...not to mention some potentially true Patriots controlling military might.


62 posted on 12/31/2012 12:46:20 PM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: rickomatic; technically right

My comment about Golden Retrievers was a comment on the character of most LEOs. Anyone who will shoot a harmless dog needlessly will be happy to be on the swat team that shoots your kids.


63 posted on 12/31/2012 12:49:43 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: RIghtwardHo
RIghtwardHo said: "But if they wanted to, they could easily do so. "

The Civil War erupted at a time when the slave-holding South recognized that their situation was untenable. Slavery was going to end if they remained in the Union.

Despite their unjust cause of wanting to perpetuate the owning of people as property, it took years and half a million lives to get the South to lay down its weapons.

How could there be less bloodshed protecting the right to keep and bear arms, a cause which had already ignited the American Revolution and which our Founders recognized as essential to the security of a free state?

I can't predict how the people of New Hampshire will behave, despite their motto of "Live Free or Die", but I'm pretty sure that Texas, Arizona, and Utah will be keys to a bright future.

64 posted on 12/31/2012 12:50:37 PM PST by William Tell
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To: marktwain
Without going into great detail here on a public blog site, there are many in the military who will not follow the order to shoot fellow Americans!

Guess which way those firearms will be pointed?

Stay safe my fellow Americans and know we stand with the American people!!!!!

65 posted on 12/31/2012 12:50:54 PM PST by paratrooper82 (We have been deserted by this WH and left to fend for ourselves in Afghanistan! Both hands tied!)
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To: tomkat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML6oLuLecQ4


66 posted on 12/31/2012 12:52:51 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Precisely


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67 posted on 12/31/2012 1:00:22 PM PST by tomkat
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To: Dan Cooper

I know nothing about this “personal manufacturing” trend, and was only using zip-guns as an example because it was the first thing that popped into my mind. Z-guns of course were primarily used as inner-city gang-on-gang “equalizers”(going back to the 1940’s probably) and probably don’t have any bearing on any bleak scenario I can envision where “groups” representing one side or another, legal, quasi-legal, or “outlawed” might be arrayed against one another in some kind of apocalyptic ongoing “shoot-out”, resulting from the 2nd Amendment guarantees of self-defense.But I can see how you say that laws against this will probably be against the “information” being exchanged and not the guns themselves.
That would involve an unusual political bedfellowing of the Government, and any or all gun manufacturers. Unprecedented but I could see it happening, in “intellectual property” terms. Just beware of guns coming in from China, reverse-engineered sloppily, with bullets that wind up exploding in the barrel. (”Whoops! Our mistake! Sorry!)


68 posted on 12/31/2012 1:04:26 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: Windflier

I think this is WAY over the ‘compassionate-conservative’s’ heads...


69 posted on 12/31/2012 1:56:57 PM PST by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: trebb

“He declined to mention what other Nations might do if things deteriorate that much”

You assume that other nations will continue their current level of spending and arms levels.

Remember, many of them get their crap from us. Including their money to maintain those arms levels.

If we implode, they will shortly collapse, being unable to restock, both food and weapons.


70 posted on 12/31/2012 2:03:52 PM PST by FrogMom (Chicken Little is coming, and he's right!)
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To: William Tell

“Texas, Arizona, and Utah will be keys to a bright future. “

Suspect you can add Wyoming, Idaho, and Oklahoma to that. Possibly also Montana and the Dakotas.


71 posted on 12/31/2012 2:06:39 PM PST by FrogMom (Chicken Little is coming, and he's right!)
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To: paratrooper82
paratrooper82 said: "Guess which way those firearms will be pointed?"

One could write an entire novel concerning the moral dilemma for military who must consider "treason" against a tyranny. And another novel concerning the tactics of those who decide to side with the right.

I recall how rough the troops were with some of the equipment. Most were potential draftees who decided to enlist. Imagine how rough troops would get if they were decidedly against their own military mission.

72 posted on 12/31/2012 2:19:37 PM PST by William Tell
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To: William Tell

Already written:

http://www.amazon.com/State-Disobedience-Tom-Kratman/dp/0743499204/ref=sr_1_9?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1356992462&sr=1-9&keywords=kratman


73 posted on 12/31/2012 2:27:07 PM PST by Little Ray (Get back to work. Your urban masters need their EBTs refilled.)
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To: DTogo
Amen...
74 posted on 12/31/2012 2:51:03 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: marktwain
If memory serves me, back in 1999 the California legislature had passed a law mandating that all "Assault Rifles" had to be registered with the DOJ by December 31st, 1999. I remember seeing posters warning that non-compliance would make violators of this law instant felons.

The deadline came and went and I recall reading an article published after the fact, that out of an conservative estimated of over 4 million assault weapons (legal or otherwise) only something like a "whopping" 280,000 weapons were registered.

From that point, there was nary a peep out of DOJ or any other gun grabbing fascists concerning the state's utter failure to intimidate California gun owners..

75 posted on 12/31/2012 3:01:02 PM PST by semaj
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To: trebb; SENTINEL
He declined to mention what other Nations might do if things deteriorate that much - we are a ripe plum in the big picture and I imagine a few may decide to band together to “pick” the plum. I wonder how a snag like that might play out if the People still have enough weapons in circulation...not to mention some potentially true Patriots controlling military might.

Think about it. We have more than twice the number of armed civilians than all the members of all the militaries of the world combined.

Who do you think would volunteer to come into the USA to fight against us? Whoever they send would quickly become dogfood or fertilizer.

Maybe they'll nuke us, you might say? Perhaps. But the effects of nukes are seriously overrated. To kill a million people, one would have to be directly over a city (where the majority of our domestic enemies reside). Out in the hinterlands, it would take a million-dollar nuke to kill a dozen people. This option is not economic for any enemy.

As pointed out in SENTINEL's article, internally we have (at least) a 230:1 numbers advantage, and I suspect the odds are even more greatly in our favor. As he said, they're trying to use a chihuahua to frighten us into jumping over a cliff. They are bluffing. We will not disarm.

If they continue their stupidity, i.e. keep orchestrating these mass killings of innocents to justify their gun control agenda, pretty soon the fight will come to them.

The gun sales of the past two weeks is all you need to see to know this.

76 posted on 12/31/2012 3:04:26 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: muir_redwoods
My comment about Golden Retrievers was a comment on the character of most LEOs. Anyone who will shoot a harmless dog needlessly will be happy to be on the swat team that shoots your kids.

I know 2 LEO's. One recently retired, and one a former big county SWAT leader. I shoot with both of them recreationally. They are both very pro 2nd Amendment. Especially the SWAT guy. I'm pretty sure they'd be on "our" side. It's more often the case that the dog shooters are wild eyed rookies, or tough guy big city guy loose canons, IMHO.
77 posted on 12/31/2012 3:13:02 PM PST by rickomatic
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To: meadsjn; trebb
We have first and foremost, if we will have faith and acknowledge Him, God on our side. We have God + 230:1.

We need to recognize that Carl Marx said repeatedly that his goal was "to dethrone God". We fight, truly, against evil satanic forces. I am convinced that the timing of some of these horrible crimes we see are coordinated through the spiritiual realm, rather than that of evil men.

78 posted on 12/31/2012 3:36:12 PM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: marktwain
Perhaps ten percent of those, 4-5 million, would support a rebellion in some way,

Maybe picket signs on a corner but I suspect those folks won't be willing to use up their sick days or vacation time to participate in the revolution.

After all, there's mortgages and new vehicles to pay for, kids to shuttle to and from soccer, football, baseball, etc.......They just won't have the time.

But they'll boast online about it.........

79 posted on 12/31/2012 3:47:53 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: OldPossum
...we will always have the weak-kneed among us.

True, but when the nation is on the razor's edge of tension, like it is now, and when bravery, courage, and resoluteness, are the only acceptable attitudes, it would be nice if the little darlings would hush it.

80 posted on 12/31/2012 3:49:03 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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