Posted on 12/31/2012 9:54:19 AM PST by marktwain
Bob explains that successful rebel operations would by highly publicized.
Knowing the media like we do, we know that such information would be suppressed, especially if the operations were successful.
If anything was publicized it would be nothing but pure propaganda villifying the rebels.
I agree completely.See my #33.
Well the first thing that would happen is a Federal class action lawsuit alleging 50 million “takings” that would tie-up the entire court system for about thirteen years.
“Furthermore, if anyone thinks that gun owners are going to stand against a government as powerful as the U.S., and be successful on any level, they are under a severe delusion”
Governments with strong militaries DO fall, and the fall can be precipitated by widespread political and military resistance. It’s happennned in France over and over again since 1789, and in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union twenty years ago. The rebels probably would not carve out their own independent state, but a coup is a distinct possibility.
The resistors would not fight the military head on of course, they would engage in guerilla warfare and pick soft targets (state pols, bureaucrats, journalists, family members of the above). With all the preppers out there, some of the resistors could find places for re-supply (think of the Dilinger gang in the 30s).
And keep this in mind, economic chaos will likely also ensue because of absurd Leftist economic policies. When the EBT cards are invalid, the military will have their hands full with welfare mobs and FEMA camps.
Congress can make any law or constitutional amendment they want, but they can't overturn an unalienable right. Governments only have the power to suppress the people's free exercise of their God-given rights. They can't even improve upon them. In fact, any meddling they do in the area of natural rights is only bound to curtail them.
When you see outsiders, particularly Feds, "cooperating" with local LE, that's when you need to start worrying.
I was alarmed at how quickly we had news statements/leaks from FBI and ATF after Newtown. Do all small towns have Fed LE offices nearby?
Printed guns may work for a shot or two, but NCR machines can easily turn out real guns.
it won’t be a rebellion, it will be a revolution. former is unlawful, latter is against the unlawful.
Patriot calorie preservation aside, rotting fascist corpses laying about would send a memorable message.
This is not small business manufacturing but personal manufacturing. This technology is still in its infancy and many improvements are needed to enable parity with "the real thing", but feasibility has been proven. Any number of laws can be passed to attempt to prevent this of course, but these will be laws against information being exchanged, not goods. The point that by prohibiting the traditional retail distribution of arms is not going to cause arms ownership to shrink to political insignificance.
Greatest line yet. Bravo!
Probably enough for the first round suppression of civilian insurrections. After two or three cycles of this, I expect the security forces will fracture.
After it becomes widely known that the Government is arming pro-government militias (composed mostly of criminal gang members), some of those Federal security forces will be shooting at each other.
Not only that, but there will likely be many LEO's dismissed from State and local governments due to funding problems - and/or perceived unreliability. They will very angry with the Government that betrays them.
Things will get complicated.
There is that. It kinda depends I guess on whether or not the smell would annoy you.
If it were as easy as you think, our guns would have been confiscated by our government a long time ago. It's not at all "easy". Frankly, it's impossible, which is why it's never been tried.
Why is it impossible? Well, for one, our right to keep and bear arms is guaranteed in our nation's founding charter. The strong and certain sense of that right has been passed down through every generation in this country since its inception. It's now a part of our national DNA.
Secondly, gun ownership is so widespread in America that there are now an estimated 90 million (known) gun owners, possessing an estimated 270 million firearms. Any move to confiscate those weapons is going to be met with massive resistance. Most of those gun owners realize that their guns are the only things standing between them and the gulag. Once our guns are gone, we'll never get them back, and millions of patriots be murdered by their own government.
Don't think that your government hasn't war gamed this scenario out many times. The fact that they've never come for your guns should tell you that their simulations showed them losing every time.
I think you are right on target.
Of course, we will always have the weak-kneed among us.
well we can put a flowery label on it whenever. technically rebellions are illegal uprisings against just govt, revolutions are gainst unjust/illegal governments.
No dictatorship. The fighting will not likely end until the Constitution, and strict interpretation thereof, is restored.
Just as likely though, we’ll face fractious civil wars fought over issues we’ve not begun to fathom, and a much diminished state or states will result, perhaps guided by foreign interests.
Certain politically "blue" states/regions will likely be expelled from a future union, with massive population shifts of those still seeking Liberal Utopia and those preferring a Constitutional federation.
During the LA riots, while Korean shopkeepers on roof tops protected their property using semi-automatic rifles, the police were nowhere to be found.
While Reginald Denny was dragged from his truck and beaten savagely, the police were nowhere to be found.
Since it must be assumed, unless explicitly and convincingly contradicted, that the police will side with the gun-grabbers, the police will simply be completely unwelcome. Even if individual policemen gave up their uniforms and badges, there would be no way to create confidence that they were not siding with the gun-grabbers.
Unfortunately, the same must be said about the National Guard and other military. It must be assumed that their chain of command will support the gun-grabbers. Active military will have to recognize that gun confiscation is an unlawful order and resist their own chain of command. There is no way that uniformed military will be welcome if the government attempts to eliminate the Second Amendment.
... for later ...
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