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(Vanity) What do you all think about leaving the GOP?
Self | 1/3/13 | Thunder Sleeps

Posted on 01/03/2013 8:56:56 PM PST by ThunderSleeps

I'm fed up with the GOP. Lackluster performance the last few years. First they somehow let a relative nobody with no real experience beat them in 2008. Then they limp through 4 years allowing him to grind the Country down. Then they run another unsuccessful campaign against a guy with absolutely nothing going for him. obama had nothing on his record for 4 years - nothing that was a positive. Yet the GOP managed to lose to him and his machine, again. Beating obama in 2012 should've been like shooting fish in a barrel. Now they (the GOP Congress critters) cave on the fiscal negotiations.


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To: ThunderSleeps; All

Our Political System is dependent upon the system that the candidate with the most votes wins. Thus, in a race with 3 candidates, the winner could win with 33 % of the votes cast plus one vote.

The major problem is that it is nearly impossible for one of the two largest parties to lose. Hence, there is NO change.

The two largest parties, call them ‘Tweedle Dumb’ and ‘Tweedle Dumber,’ will fight tooth and nail to prevent an election rule change to stipulate that the winning candidate must get 50 % of the votes cast plus one vote.

Thus, until election laws are changed to permit the 50 % plus one vote victory rule, a third party, such as the Tea Party, will be seen as a voter block at best.

IMHO, the best course is to dedicate a given amount of ya’lls time between now and November, 2014 to taking over the sorry RINO functions in your local area, County and State.

State at your first meeting your primary goals, and ask all in attendance to “Lead, Follow, or GET OUT OF THE WAY!”


21 posted on 01/03/2013 9:22:27 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: ThunderSleeps

Did so yesterday morning .. first order of business in 2013 !


22 posted on 01/03/2013 9:24:32 PM PST by tomkat (-/\/\/\-)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Have you ever done anything, within the political arena? you sound like an angry jerk who only wants to bitch.

Your complaint is with human nature.

There is NO chance that we will ever have a perfect political party.


23 posted on 01/03/2013 9:25:23 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: ThunderSleeps; a fool in paradise

How does one DE-register?


24 posted on 01/03/2013 9:25:51 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Do what you feel is right and DO NOT sycophants on FR or anywhere divert your intent, whatever it may be by whining about irrelevancy or any of a million other excuses.

It comes down to this. Support the problem or not. If you feel (as I do) the GOP has become the Dem party, then your path is clear.


25 posted on 01/03/2013 9:28:34 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: ThunderSleeps

I left years ago, but can still vote for their crappy, Rino candidates whenever I want.


26 posted on 01/03/2013 9:28:34 PM PST by Luke21
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Why?

What did 2010 accomplish?


27 posted on 01/03/2013 9:29:24 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

I did so about a year ago. I have no regrets..I still vote that way as long as it’s on conservative principals...I actually felt very liberated leaving the GOP. I previously had been a registered R since I was 18. They are’nt what they use to be. So for me, my Lord which is Jesus, is my guide and decision for party principal.


28 posted on 01/03/2013 9:30:36 PM PST by hope (Whom the Son sets free is free indeed!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Fold on the debt limit and I’m gone. Bags are packed now

Alaska looks good


29 posted on 01/03/2013 9:37:23 PM PST by chiller (Do not consume any NBCNews;MTPTodayNightlyNewsMorningJoeMSNBCBrianWilliams)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Suicide!


30 posted on 01/03/2013 9:40:01 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: ThunderSleeps

“I didn’t leave the Democratic party. It left me.”
Ronald Reagan, 1962

Guess what, boys? The GOP’s left. And that ain’t right.


31 posted on 01/03/2013 9:40:20 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: tbw2
Now is the time for the Tea Party to make noises about forming a party. Otherwise it will be too late in 2016. We might get a few Senators elected in 2014, but for a Presidential run, we need a viable candidate that can make headlines early. Otherwise the Rpubs will just shrug and allow the party to split thinking we have nowhere to go in 2016. Boner just removed all Tea Party congressmen from his committee's. The establishment don't think we can go elsewhere.

If we made some noise, they may accommodate us, just like they accommodate Christians, and guns. If Repubs lose the gun people or the Christians, or both, they are finished as a party. The Tea Party would scoop them up in a minute. The problem with the Tea Party is they just go for taxes and spending and steer clear of social issues and guns.

I'm old enough to remember the days of the Rockefeller Republicans and all they wanted was lower taxes. They didn't give a damn about anything else.

They lost........all the time. When Pat Robertson brought the Christians in for social reasons, we had a winning party. The Repubs are going to have to admit they need the Tea Party or they will never win again. If they don't cater to The Tea Party, IMHO, they will go somewhere else. We all will lose then, just like the 3rd parties throughout history.

32 posted on 01/03/2013 9:41:07 PM PST by chuckles
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To: ThunderSleeps

I don’t understand the concept. I never “went” to something call the GOP. I didn’t “enter” a place called “GOP”, so I don’t know how you would “leave” it.

My political strategy is to vote in every election, for the person who most closely reflects what I believe to be correct. I rarely get an opportunity to vote for a candidate who I agree with 100%. But I often have a chance to vote for a decent candidate, at least in a primary if not a general election.

For a time I hung out in a republican committee, since there are virtually no democrats I have met recently that end up being a better choice than whatever the republicans put up.

In rare occasions, no candidates are acceptable. In those cases, I don’t vote for that office. In 2008, that was going to happen for me in my congressional district, because Republican Tom Davis had just made too many bad choices. But then he quit; I was able to vote for a decent republican who had no chance of beating the democrat.

So if you are saying that from now on, you won’t just vote for the republican because he has an “R” next to his name, I’m with you. If you are saying that you will refuse to vote for the best candidate running, out of spite, I would disagree.

But I would say that you should NEVER vote against your own conscience; I would never urge you to vote for someone you thought was a mistake, even if I thought that person was good enough to vote for.


33 posted on 01/03/2013 9:42:28 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ThunderSleeps

Leaving the GOP isn’t going to help. Staying in the GOP
isn’t going to help.

As long as libtards dominate the delivery of information and education
they will control more and more.


34 posted on 01/03/2013 9:46:38 PM PST by Sivad (Nor Cal Red Turf)
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To: chiller

It’s cold here.

But, come on up.


35 posted on 01/03/2013 9:46:38 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: ThunderSleeps

I registered as Independent when I moved in 2006 and again in 2010. Through with the Republicans and their wimp nominees and tactics.


36 posted on 01/03/2013 9:48:04 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: ThunderSleeps
The GOP-e doesn't care if 100% of conservatives leave the party, leaving absolute control of the GOP in the hands of liberal Republicans (who are mostly former Democrats).

The GOP-e don't want conservatives showing up to precinct, county, state, or the national conventions. They don't want conservatives voting in closed state primaries.

They want you registered as libertarians or Independents, so that liberals completely control the mechinations of both parties.

Because, and only because, conservatives have left the GOP, liberals now control who gets on the ballots in all 50 states. Liberals control party rules for the only two parties that will be on the ballots in all 50 states.

Liberals show up for local party functions for both parties, in sufficient numbers to run the business for both parties.

Conservatives complain after the fact that the liberals running their local GOP aren't doing it right.

Libertarians smoke dope and molest their neighbors' livestock, then stage stupid protests at the conventions of other parties.

Independents let other people run the meetings, primaries and conventions of the two major parties, then complain that their only choices are between two liberals on the two main party tickets.

And liberals win another election.

37 posted on 01/03/2013 9:56:53 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: ThunderSleeps

Left a month ago. Tired of toeing the line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j6DpPGMfzs

Rocky Burnette 1980


38 posted on 01/03/2013 10:00:12 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: ThunderSleeps

So then what is your alternative. It’s a two party system.
Would you rather the Obama minions rule you unopposed.


39 posted on 01/03/2013 10:08:21 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: ThunderSleeps

great. just register as an independent or “decline to state” or whatever your state requires and then try to get/find conservatives to run in whatever party they want.

just act as a member of a defacto conservative party. once you start thinking that way. it’s easy to determine who to vote for and who to ignore.


40 posted on 01/03/2013 10:11:34 PM PST by dadfly
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