LEVIN- What Obama Deserves from GOP: DEFIANCE, Obstruction, + Political Sabotage- NOT Collaboration

Reaganite Republican ^ | 04 January 2013 | Reaganite Republican

[Reaganite Republican]

'This government is completely out of control'

"What Obama deserves from us is defiance- what he deserves from Republicans in high elected office is obstruction -political sabotage- we shouldn't participate as political partners in our own demise, and that's exactly what's going on here- this is for all the marbles...

I don't care what Obama 'wants' -'Oh, I want 1.6 trillion'- who gives a damn what you 'want', Mr President...?

The US credit rating has already been downgraded, and it's going to be downgraded again- they're destroying the financial backbone of this country right before our eyes, and for what? For a few more weeks of unemployment? So more people can be on food stamps? So Obama can create his paradise? And take money from people who actually earn it... a high price to pay for this experiment, and it's a failed experiment- it's been tried over, and over, and over...

We have president of the United States who's chosen to not participate in the free-market, capitalist system - never, ever-
yet today he rules over it

We have a president who's only success is as a demagogue- where he trashes his opponents... lies and decieves in a serial fashion... he gets elected, and somehow -SOMEhow- he's qualified to run everything! He's qualified to re-write the Constitution... how did that happen? I dunno...

In America now we're supposed to despise people who actually achieve the American Dream... we're supposed to despise people who follow the law, follow the rules, though hard work, through intelligence... long hours... invest everything they have... many of whom began with very modest means- now suddenly, if they don't contribute to 50% of their income to Obama, to the Sentate, to the Congress, to the massive bureaucracy, SOMEHOW that's unfair- unfair to whom?

Like the mob, they've got their hands in our pockets- they're the first ones there!

This isn't only a financial disaster, it is a constitutional disaster- and that's the point, ever since the federal government became un-moored from the federal Constitution, it's become this: an insatiable leviathan monster, it can't stop- you heard Obama.

It's not about the rich... it's about YOU- (Obama) hasn't gotten enough, he wants more...

This fiscal cliff discussion- what happened? The Republicans sold their soul to a president who would make Karl Marx and Saul Alinsky proud...

A president who pretends to speak for the middle class and to represent the middle class when he resents the middle class.. he resents this entire society- that's why HE's NOT DONE,
he's going to push the envelope

This is not America, this is not a constitutional democracy-
this is something else

When they say 'government is broken' they don't mean because politicians aren't complying with the Constitution, they mean we need... a benevolent dictatorship'

The issue is no longer 'what can the government do, it's 'what can't the government do?'"

Audio @ TheRightScoop (h/t Doug Ross)

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[AmericanInTokyo]

Good points. I could add some more. Be that as it may, I won’t here in open forum, but face it, the concept is increasingly on many patriot’s minds no doubt. Millions by now in fact. This is more than incompetence, but encompasses treason with malicious knowledge and aforethought. What are we supposed to do? Just passively take it up the tailpipe and surrender 236 years of liberty without a fight?

[Hotlanta Mike]

Light a fire...

[Hotlanta Mike]

Surprised a dollar crash hasn’t happened yet but it’s coming now that John Boehner’s in bed with this vile regime.

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If the Euro wasn’t a basket case the dollar would have crashed 2 years ago.

[eekitsagreek]

By 2014 enough people should be scared by economic and/or security concerns that both Progs and RINO collaborators will be significantly discredited and TEA Party vindicated

Nope. People will want their "free stuff" and will be voting for the party that they believe will give it to them, regardless if they can provide it.

[Thorliveshere]

It’s funny, even when I read Levin’s words, I can *hear* his passion, his intonation as when he speaks.

[AnAmericanAbroad]

Nope. People will want their “free stuff” and will be voting for the party that they believe will give it to them, regardless if they can provide it.
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Arguably, if the economy is worse next year (2014) then people will want even MORE “free stuff”, regardless of whether it’s fiscally plausible or not. And naturally, people will vote for the party (or politicians) who will provide it for them.

[Tau Food]

The focus should be on cutting spending. The more we talk about taxes, the more we distract people from the spending issues. Taxing is what Obama wants to talk about.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

Arguably, if the economy is worse next year (2014) then people will want even MORE “free stuff”, regardless of whether it’s fiscally plausible or not. And naturally, people will vote for the party (or politicians) who will provide it for them.

Which is why I think we've passed the point of no return.

When the system crashes, the handouts will go away, and we will return to the natural order of voluntary exchange, i.e., free markets, whether we like it or not.

[Let_It_Be_So]

I think this country must alter the US Constitution to require the federal government to operate on a balanced budget (illegal for expenditures to exceed revenues).

It is highly doubtful that Congress will EVER find the self-discipline to get this nation’s economic house in order without such an amendment to the constitution.

The wording of the amendment could allow for a temporary exception in case of national emergency/full-scale war, only if approved by 3/4 majority vote of both houses of Congress.

Since Congress would never offer up such an amendment, it would be necessary for it to be done at the state legislative level. It would take 34 states to force Congress to call a national convention, and states could limit what could be considered in the Convention, effectively limiting it to the balanced budget language only.

Attempts to do just such a thing were made in the late ‘70s and early ‘80s and would need to be revived again, this time hopefully being successful because of the calamitous economic precipice facing this nation.

In the earlier attempt, 32 states had submitted an application to Congress for a convention to consider a balanced budget amendment, but it lost momentum when Congress passed the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act, known as the Gramm-Rudman Hollings Act, which required that the budget be balanced by 1991. Obviously, that act of congress was flawed in that it didn’t do what the states had wanted...require a balanced budget.

See http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No3_Rogersonline.pdf for an article with relevant background of the amendment process from an historical perspective.

[Reaganite Republican]

“If the Euro wasn’t a basket case the dollar would have crashed 2 years ago.”
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I have often thought this Mike...

[Hotlanta Mike]

I have often thought this Mike...

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The Gerard Depardieu’s of Europe had to diversify their holdings somewhere. So it was either in Swiss Frank denominations or US Dollar holdings/stocks.

Of course they can just as quickly move out of the dollar as quickly as they moved in...

[justa-hairyape]

By 2014 enough people should be scared by economic and/or security concerns that both Progs and RINO collaborators will be significantly discredited and TEA Party vindicated.

They will not let that happen. They are coming for our guns in 2013, because they are coming for our gold and stash in 2014. They know that hard assets will be prized commodities when hyperinflation hits due to their monetary cronyism. They also want to continue their RINO/DINO Oligarchial control of the US Presidency, US Senate, US Supreme Court and now the US House Boner. So they need to disarm us before the loss of our democracy and representative republic is painfully obvious to the majority. That is where all of this is headed.