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The Law That Can Save America And Put Obama In Jail
To The Point News.com ^ | 10 January 2013 | Dr. Jack Wheeler

Posted on 01/11/2013 5:52:33 PM PST by Windflier

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To: Diogenesis

What a picture... Pelosi looks even more demented than usual.


21 posted on 01/11/2013 7:02:10 PM PST by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: ronnie raygun
How can they use the constitution when not one of them know it?

Sorry for interrupting your normally scheduled Doom and Gloom. My bad.

22 posted on 01/11/2013 7:03:46 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RoosterRedux; Windflier

Did you ever noticed that Andrew Breitbart was breitbarted???


23 posted on 01/11/2013 7:04:37 PM PST by danamco (-)
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To: RoosterRedux; ConservativeInPA

Have just forgotten how the military big time supported Barry Soetoro AGAINST Patriot Lt.Col. Terry Lakin and stripped him from his livelyhood, hmmm???


24 posted on 01/11/2013 7:09:21 PM PST by danamco (-)
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To: danamco
Did you ever noticed that Andrew Breitbart was breitbarted???

Well, I guess we'd all best turn in our guns now, and save Dear Reader the trouble, eh?

Geez Louise....where's the patriot channel?

25 posted on 01/11/2013 7:09:39 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: danamco

The degenerate nobama can do whatever he wants to...until someone stops him. Constitution??? nobama don’t need no stinkin’ Constitution.


26 posted on 01/11/2013 7:15:30 PM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: Windflier

Good find, Windy.

We have to use every tool that presents us with an opportunity to fight back.


27 posted on 01/11/2013 7:17:20 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: exit82
Good find, Windy. We have to use every tool that presents us with an opportunity to fight back.

You bet. I'm going to pass this article along to my state and national reps. Can't hurt, and who knows - it might actually make a difference.

28 posted on 01/11/2013 7:45:53 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Again....I don’t shoot the messenger; nothing against you.


29 posted on 01/11/2013 7:59:22 PM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Windflier
You might actually have to fight to preserve your liberty.

I don't like it. But I am ready. I am not one of the many that have back orders on pmags.

30 posted on 01/11/2013 8:02:58 PM PST by ConservativeInPA
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To: Windflier

The power of the purse is not granted to the house exclusively. The house is the primary holder of said power, meaning appropriations must start there. However, after that, they must pass the senate and the president, or if there’s a veto Congress alone and by a supermajority. So they have the power of the purse, too, in a sense.


31 posted on 01/11/2013 9:22:53 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: beethovenfan

“who’s going to enforce it?”

Congress, or at least it could clear the way for enforcement. They must try and convict before a president can stop being president and therefore meet the law by regular people. That will never happen, and should it Biden would no doubt pardon him. So who’s to enforce it is moot point.


32 posted on 01/11/2013 9:29:00 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Windflier

“prosecution of the president...is a far easier way to remove him from office than impeachment.”

You cannot prosecute the president until he has been removed from office. The only (legal) means of removing him from office is impeachment. Your proposal is a nonstarter.

Obama has qualified immunity and de facto complete immunity until such time as the house chucks him out. The courts can allow him to be sued like Clinton with Paula Jones or order him to turn over tapes like Nixon. But it’s not as if Nixon could’ve been attested for obstruction of justice while he was president. In the first place all he’d have to do is plead guilty and pardon himself.


33 posted on 01/11/2013 9:42:11 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Windflier

attested = arrested


34 posted on 01/11/2013 9:45:45 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
You cannot prosecute the president until he has been removed from office.

Read the whole article. It's not about impeachment. The relevant portions of the statute are detailed there. If Obama violates any portion of that law (which he probably will), he most certainly can be prosecuted and removed from office.

The only question is, who's going to have to cojones to do it? The author (Dr. Jack Wheeler) suggests that several red state Governors could band together and bring suit, as provided for in the law.

I'm going to send this to my Governor, Rick Perry, my House rep, Kenny Marchant (R-TX), and both of my Senators, one of which is Ted Cruz (R-TX).

35 posted on 01/11/2013 10:17:35 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

[[The Law That Can Save America And Put Obama In Jail]]

There isw NO law that can save ANYONE in a lawless nation- which is exactly what we’ve becoem as the left has brazenly dismantled our constitution bit by bit- the constitution means NOTHING to left anymore- and apaprently it means NOTHING to the supreme court either- The laws of the cosntitution are no logner able to save anyone!


36 posted on 01/11/2013 10:25:19 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Windflier

“he most certainly can be prosecuted and removed from office”

No, he MUST be impeached first. Breaking this law may be grounds for impeachment, but you are talking as if immediate prosecution can replace impeachment. It can’t.

“several red state Governors could band together and bring suit”

They could, but they can’t remove him from office. Only Congress can: the house through impeachment and the senate by trial and conviction.


37 posted on 01/11/2013 10:27:05 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
“he most certainly can be prosecuted and removed from office”

No, he MUST be impeached first. Breaking this law may be grounds for impeachment, but you are talking as if immediate prosecution can replace impeachment. It can’t.

You're not reading the wording of the statute. Here it is, and it is quite clear:

§1341 states:

1) An officer or employee of the United States Government or of the District of Columbia government may not-

(A) make or authorize an expenditure or obligation exceeding an amount available in an appropriation or fund for the expenditure or obligation;

(B) involve either government in a contract or obligation for the payment of money before an appropriation is made unless authorized by law;

§1342 specifies that the "unless authorized by law" exception in 1341 (1)(B) applies only to "emergencies involving the safety of human life or the protection of property," which does "not include ongoing, regular functions of government the suspension of which would not imminently threaten the safety of human life or the protection of property."

§1349 states:

"An officer or employee of the United States Government or of the District of Columbia government violating section 1341(a) or 1342 of this title shall be subject to appropriate administrative discipline including, when circumstances warrant, suspension from duty without pay or removal from office."

§1350 states:

"An officer or employee of the United States Government or of the District of Columbia government knowingly and willfully violating section 1341(a) or 1342 of this title shall be fined not more than $5,000, imprisoned for not more than 2 years, or both."

38 posted on 01/11/2013 10:44:03 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

It doesn’t matter what the law says. The Constitution preempted it, and according to it the president, vice president, and certain judges can only be removed from office via the impeachment process. He can’t be prosecuted or jailed before removal from office. The president is subject to various legal proceedings, but not what you’re talking about without impeachment.


39 posted on 01/11/2013 11:08:39 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
It doesn’t matter what the law says. The Constitution preempted it, and according to it the president, vice president, and certain judges can only be removed from office via the impeachment process. He can’t be prosecuted or jailed before removal from office. The president is subject to various legal proceedings, but not what you’re talking about without impeachment.

So that's it? Obama skates again? I think I want a second opinion.

40 posted on 01/12/2013 3:09:26 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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