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From Same-Sex Marriage to Polygamy and Polyandry
American Thinker ^ | January 5, 2013 | James M. Arlandson

Posted on 01/13/2013 4:03:34 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

I keep hearing same-sex marriage (SSM) activists assuring us that no one else will legally redefine the essence of marriage, after they enjoy the privilege of doing so. It's a red herring to distract us from the real issue: redefining it for them alone.

But if we redefine marriage for one group, there's no logical reason to deny other nonconformist advocates their right to do so, especially if they successfully argue their version of marriage on utilitarian grounds -- it benefits or does no harm to society.

I don't know who invented the slippery slope fallacy, but he or she shouldn't be decorated with a medal. Sometimes the slope exists, it really is slippery, and people actually slide down it. In the 1950s, Lucy and Ricky were shown in separate beds. In the late 1960s and early 1970s the Brady Bunch parents shared the same extra-wide king-size bed, but were far apart. Today? No need to describe primetime or daytime TV. The sex drive is powerful, and society has publically slid down that slippery, muddy slope long ago.

Here are two more nonconformist groups clamoring for their share of the marriage mud pie.

First, polygamy.

Islam allows polygamy for men. They can marry up to four women if the men can afford them (Quran 4:3). Of course religious scholars can't deny the clear teaching of the Quran. Allah wills it. So they inform us of the social benefits of polygamy....

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; islam; polygamy; romney; romneymarriage; samesexmarriage
It'sn only a few years away.
1 posted on 01/13/2013 4:03:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Arlandson is right.


2 posted on 01/13/2013 4:06:23 PM PST by apocalypto
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Calling a goose a duck doesn’t make it a duck.


3 posted on 01/13/2013 4:06:30 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Calling a goose a duck doesn’t make it a duck.

But you may soon be able to marry the goose and/or duck. (they have such sensitive eyes)

4 posted on 01/13/2013 4:09:10 PM PST by llevrok (ObamaLand - Where young people go to retire)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Calling a goose a duck doesn’t make it a duck.

But you may soon be able to marry the goose and/or duck. (they have such sensitive eyes)

5 posted on 01/13/2013 4:09:30 PM PST by llevrok (ObamaLand - Where young people go to retire)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But if we redefine marriage for one group, there's no logical reason to deny other nonconformist advocates their right to do so

I have been saying this for years. If one group gets to "redefine" marriage, then you have no legal ground to stand on in stopping more "redefinitions" from happening. If there is nothing special about one man and one woman being the definition of a marriage; then, what is so special about the number 2?

6 posted on 01/13/2013 4:12:47 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Throw consanguinity and lowering the age of consent into the mix - these two are already on the list.


7 posted on 01/13/2013 4:13:20 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Years ago when the first gays tried to get a marriage license in Boulder a Cowboy asked for a license to marry his horse. With the slippery slope we are on it will not be long until a pedophile will be able to marry children. The ultimate right the left seems to be pushing for seems to be for the right to murder. Several public death threats have been made against Tea Party and Pro gun persons. The loony left already support the murder of over a million babies per year.
8 posted on 01/13/2013 4:14:55 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: LibertarianLiz

Bingo.


9 posted on 01/13/2013 4:15:16 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: apocalypto
Arlandson is right.

Yes, I'm afraid so.

And Bringem Young was wrong.

10 posted on 01/13/2013 4:15:57 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Normalizing pedophilia and incest and pretty soon its okay to have sex with your own little kids

and leftists/libertopians think messing around with the foundations of civilization won’t have severe consequences... why??


11 posted on 01/13/2013 4:16:00 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Army Air Corps

Normalizing pedophilia and incest and pretty soon its okay to have sex with your own little kids

and leftists/libertopians think messing around with the foundations of civilization won’t have severe consequences... why??


12 posted on 01/13/2013 4:19:47 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Polygamy and Polyandry”

Seems to me that both of these are effectively practiced today. Since in half of the unions today, marriage is not involved and the same people often sleep around.


13 posted on 01/13/2013 4:22:26 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: LibertarianLiz

The gates have been flung wide, and soon virtually every sort of sexual expression will have its own advocacy group.

I expect that there may even be some out there agitating for open masturbation in public. While now it is considered an indication of a seriously disturbed mind, who knows what will be excused and even encouraged within a decade?

There just isn’t a more instant form of gratification available anywhere. Even downing drugs or alcohol has a certain time lag involved, and there is only so fast that things external to the body can be engaged in that quest.

There is no maximum limit on depravity.


14 posted on 01/13/2013 4:23:38 PM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: GeronL

I’ve read that pedophilia is legal in roughly 119 countries, mostly muslim.


15 posted on 01/13/2013 4:24:35 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

ugh

kiddie porn is legal in a few places too, sick (like in Tokyo Japan)


16 posted on 01/13/2013 4:25:10 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Headlines like this show we are already near the bottom of the sewer. Polyandry and polygamy would be a step up from “same sex marriage”.


17 posted on 01/13/2013 4:27:25 PM PST by Varda
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To: GeronL

I didnt know it was legal there, thats depressing.


18 posted on 01/13/2013 4:30:54 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What I fail to understand is why some same-sex “marriage” advocates get all offended when polygamy is suggested as the next step. Why any of them would be offended or repulsed by it is the height of hypocrisy IMHO.

Polygyny(one man, two or more wives) certainly has more biblical precedent than the other one. And might actually result in another human being coming into creation(something homosexual relations can never cause).


19 posted on 01/13/2013 4:30:57 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: babygene

Exactly. Not much difference between serial monogamy and polygamy. Actually, polygamy would be more humane vs. tossing the first wife out.


20 posted on 01/13/2013 4:36:55 PM PST by rbg81
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To: GeronL

Marx wanted the annihilation of the family unit and God-—biology is meaningless in Marxism’s utopia—so all people are interchangeable—radical egalitarianism. They want no special feelings (loyalty) to a mother and father or loyalty to God.

They want the natural instincts which are strong in people to be destroyed-—that maternal instinct (women) and protective one (men). Abortion was the start of removing mothers from their little children. Animals in nature NEVER allow strangers around their babies. They kill them.

We now have women calling it a right to kill their own biological offspring—their genetic connection to the past and future. Same with men and the destruction of the patriarchy—to destroy that which makes men connected to females and their genetic offspring. It is all psychological-—to remove the idea of God (Christianity) where we are responsible for our own offspring, etc.

Then the State has no trouble raising the children and being the mommy and forming their worldview—what and how they think-—so they will be perfect little drones.

To make slaves of the masses—the ideas of motherhood/fatherhood and Natural Rights from God—have got to be destroyed.

Religion and the Natural Family Unit have to be destroyed to make slaves. Children who have a loving mother and father—would be protected. Removing biology—making biology meaningless by promoting absurd, unnatural ideas where homosexuals can LEGALLY create an “artificial” idea of Natural-—removes God, removes Natural Laws and removes Reason from the children in the following generation who won’t “learn” or have any idea what “natural” is-—so State can determine Good and Evil. Slavery becomes Good. Vice (sodomy) becomes “good”.


21 posted on 01/13/2013 4:38:44 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: rbg81

” Actually, polygamy would be more humane vs. tossing the first wife out.”

Or the other way around...


22 posted on 01/13/2013 4:40:07 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The whole homosexual movement is a Communist movement. Our current Hollywood and Public Schools were Communist creations to corrupt children.

“These Leftist degenerates began to scheme over sixty years ago to secure public acceptance of their depravity. Havelock Ellis, a founder of the Fabian Society, compiled a massive erotic work entitled, Studies In The Psychology Of Sex. Ellis was a sexual pervert and drug user. He and a group of fellow Leftists even pioneered in the experimental use of hallucinogens in private orgies. Ellis was definitely a pathological case. He drove his wife into Lesbianism and drug addiction, securing additional erotic excitement by urging her to recite her Lesbian experiences. Mrs. Ellis eventually went insane and died in utmost misery after denouncing her husband as a sexual monster.”

http://bioleft.tripod.com/keynes.htm


23 posted on 01/13/2013 4:43:22 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This article assumes polygamy is further down the slippery slope than fudge packing. The case for polygamist marriage is actually much stronger


24 posted on 01/13/2013 4:43:29 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With some race groups here, marriage is rare. Maybe 80% are born out of wedlock with different spouses.


25 posted on 01/13/2013 4:45:07 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene
All My Babies Mamas -- Oxygen Network

26 posted on 01/13/2013 4:55:06 PM PST by Optimist
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To: savagesusie

Havelock Ellis was one of Margaret Sanger’s many lovers.


27 posted on 01/13/2013 5:01:19 PM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - V. Lenin)
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To: Army Air Corps

Unfortunately, pedophilia has justification in Islam, as well.


28 posted on 01/13/2013 5:02:40 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Optimist

I can imagine the liberal/libertarian argument already: “He’s not married to them and gets to be a TV star whereas he’d be in jail if he married them. How’s that fair?”


29 posted on 01/13/2013 5:05:41 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I, too, suspect this will be headed our way in the not too distant future. To play Devil’s Advocate, if we accept the idea that two people of the same gender can marry and have a normal relationship, why can we not then accept the notion that a guy (or woman) can love more than one person? That will be the basic argument, or something similar to it.

These are interesting times we live in...


30 posted on 01/13/2013 5:06:21 PM PST by DemforBush (You might very well think that. I could not *possibly* comment.)
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To: DemforBush

I think it’s very hypocritical for “same-sex marriage” advocates to oppose polygamy. The one thing I will enjoy about this terrible moral devolution in this country will be throwing the “anti-polygamous bigot!” charge back in their faces.


31 posted on 01/13/2013 5:11:15 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: DemforBush

A hippy-dippy type woman I know loves to use the “It is about love and we need more love in the world” argument. She has kids who are teens, so I wonder if she’ll be so “loving” when someone in their 30s or 40s wants to “share love” with her kids.


32 posted on 01/13/2013 5:15:29 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Slyfox

They were all degenerates that took over our institutions-—the Fabian Socialists. John Dewey was one of them-—the Father of American Education in US.

We have to get their corrupt ideology our of our school system and parents have got to turn off TV and what they are feeding our children to destroy Virtue and normalize evil behavior.

If we kill Virtue—we can not have Freedom. Machiavelli stated it is ESSENTIAL for all Republics to promote Public Virtue (Discourses on Livy).


33 posted on 01/13/2013 5:17:02 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: ReformationFan

Call ‘em “poly haters.” ;-)


34 posted on 01/13/2013 5:19:17 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: wolfman23601

If you would have told folks in 1980 that something called ‘gay marriage’ would be recognized by the state before polygamy, they would have thought you were wacked out of your gourd.

That’s the problem with the state’s involvement, at least in in the modern era. The definition they use to recognize the institution is simply whatever judges, pols, or 51% of the voting public want it to be it at any one time.

Freegards


35 posted on 01/13/2013 5:24:37 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: llevrok; afraidfortherepublic
I want to find one of those cats that some rich, crazy old lady left $10 million to.

No, officer, I can't imagine how a cat would have gotten into a bath tub and then dragged an electric heater in on herself (or himself - gay marriage is legal, you know - who are you to question my love?). Please leave me alone, officer - can't you see I'm grieving for my lost spouse? Murder? It was just a cat, for goodness sake.

36 posted on 01/13/2013 5:30:27 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The Liberal ruling class hates me. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I say... bring it on... that way me and the love of my life, Goldie, can get married and start a family.

now, as we've had difficulty conceiving, we'll prolly need a surrogate to start our family... but then we'll be off to a large happy family (we may also adopt)

here's a pic of my life's delight (she does have a child from a previous relationship):

since we'll be married... we'll be able to write off all our children... right?

 

 

  (starve the beast using their own bs)

37 posted on 01/13/2013 5:41:20 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: savagesusie

Bill Ayers is quite confident that he and all his pals will secure their “Worker’s Paradise” by the many years they have been desensitizing our children - like teaching about canabalism in the fifth grade.


38 posted on 01/13/2013 5:46:19 PM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - V. Lenin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Our nation's renewal isn't going to come from the government. It has to come from the youth. Christian drummer Bradlee Dean has started a ministry to high schoolers to educate them in morality! Friend Bradlee Dean on Facebook for regular updates on promoting a Christian worldview.
39 posted on 01/13/2013 5:48:26 PM PST by Ezbieta12
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To: Ezbieta12

Thanks for sharing that!


40 posted on 01/13/2013 5:50:55 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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41 posted on 01/13/2013 5:52:54 PM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should wear GUN FREE ZONE T-SHIRTS.)
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To: Slyfox

Billy Ayers should NEVER have been allowed in education——but he was placed by the same Fabian Socialists who want to collapse our Judeo-Christian culture.

They corrupt the innocent children and destroy their foundational logic with lies and cr*p which destroys not only Logic-—but particularly Virtue. Sex Ed is his baby—with Marxuse and the Cultural Marxists to destroy the innocence of children. Now, insane “parents” are allowing little children to be brainwashed into thinking anal sex is a Right and normal-—the New Normal which ejects hundreds of years of Western Civ-—replaces Christianity with pagan/occult/Marxist ideology that there is no God and Natural Laws. All to erase Common Sense which only comes from the Laws of Nature-—so that our children will be OWS and ACORN idiots who can’t think with a brain-—only with their crotch.

http://www.good.is/posts/bill-ayers-says-teach-for-america-is-a-fraud


42 posted on 01/13/2013 6:28:47 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie
Ayers hates anything that does not cotton to his perversion.

America as devised by our Founders is hated.

Babies in the womb are deplorable.

Young children are to be pulled away from their parents because their minds and souls belong to the government.

I think there is a special place in hell for people like him.

43 posted on 01/13/2013 7:23:50 PM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - V. Lenin)
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To: Slyfox

I know there is a place in hell for both Billy and his “wife”—the vile “smash monogamy” one. They both are vile “human” beings.


44 posted on 01/13/2013 8:24:14 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sickening placemark.


45 posted on 01/13/2013 8:47:07 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pet peeve: Polygamy and polyandry are not gender opposites. The word the author is looking for is polygyny. It’s very simple. Polygyny is exclusively multiple wives, polyandry is exclusively multiple husbands, and polygamy is an umbrella term that encompasses both.


46 posted on 01/14/2013 9:19:03 AM PST by Melas (u)
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To: rbg81

Actually, polygamy would be more humane vs. tossing the first wife out.
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Read Sacred Loneliness or some other book on polygamy and see just how “humane” it really is...

Its unBiblical, its evil, its adultery, its cruelity, its abusive...

and its not decent nor humane...

Oh and the first wife is kicked out...

and the second and third and so on...

their bodies may be there but the guys heart is not with them...


47 posted on 01/16/2013 12:38:26 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Islam allows polygamy for men.
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so does Mormonism..

but while Islam limits the number of women to 4

Mormonism has no rules on quantity...

the more the merrier...

Just like buying another cow according to Heber C Kimball who had at least 45 extra females and gave his 14 year old daughter to Joey Smith ...

nor age nor whether the woman already has a husband...

Joey Smith had sex with 14 year old Helen and propositioned at least one 12 year old...

and had at least 11 females who already had husbands...

Joey Smith had at least 444 in all...

Brigham young had more than 50...

and if thats not enough Brigham Young said that Joey Smith would give a Mormon male at least 1,000 more when he reached the Mormon after life when he was dead...


48 posted on 01/16/2013 1:16:48 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oops

Joey Smith had at least 444 in all...

should have been

Joey Smith had at least 44 in all...

However since he cheated on his wife Emma Hale for about 15 years he could have had about that many..


49 posted on 01/16/2013 1:24:36 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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