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An encouraging admission of lower climate sensitivity by a ‘hockey team’ scientist
Watts Up With That ^ | February 1, 2013 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 02/01/2013 6:13:01 PM PST by Rocky

Andrew Revkin published the email today at the NYT Dot Earth blog as a comment in that thread, so now I am free to reproduce it here where I was not last night.

Below is the comment left by Andy, quoting Annan’s email, bolding added:

The climate scientist James Annan sent these thoughts by email:

‘Well, the press release is a bit strange, because it sounds like it is talking about the Aldrin et al paper which was published some time ago, to no great fanfare. I don’t know if they have a further update to that.

Anyway, there have now been several recent papers showing much the same – numerous factors including: the increase in positive forcing (CO2 and the recent work on black carbon), decrease in estimated negative forcing (aerosols), combined with the stubborn refusal of the planet to warm as had been predicted over the last decade, all makes a high climate sensitivity increasingly untenable. A value (slightly) under 2 is certainly looking a whole lot more plausible than anything above 4.5.’

(Excerpt) Read more at wattsupwiththat.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; gorebullwarming; ipcc
Further down in the article, more from Annan, where he says that some AGW promoters have lied (I'm shocked):

The list of pollees in the Zickfeld paper are largely the self-same people responsible for the largely bogus analyses that I’ve criticised over recent years, and which even if they were valid then, are certainly outdated now. Interestingly, one of them stated quite openly in a meeting I attended a few years ago that he deliberately lied in these sort of elicitation exercises (i.e. exaggerating the probability of high sensitivity) in order to help motivate political action.

1 posted on 02/01/2013 6:13:08 PM PST by Rocky
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To: Rocky

I doubt the climate change meme will ever be discredited in my lifetime. The progressives are “all in” on this because it presents more opportunities for statist control under the guise of “saving the planet”.

Pretty much every person under 30 yrs old has been indoctrinated in it through most or all of their educational experience.


2 posted on 02/01/2013 6:20:44 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Rocky

Thanks for the laugh. I love it when Real begins to show.


3 posted on 02/01/2013 7:57:13 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Rocky.


4 posted on 02/01/2013 8:01:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Rocky

Lying is one thing, but calling the people who pointed out your lies, deniers and Nazi’s who should be exterminated, is going a bit over board.


5 posted on 02/01/2013 8:50:02 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Rocky

“the stubborn refusal of the planet to warm”

Darn you, Earth! Don’t you see we’r trying to control people’s lives here? Quit interfering!


6 posted on 02/01/2013 9:44:57 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: nascarnation
I doubt the climate change meme will ever be discredited in my lifetime. The progressives are “all in” on this because it presents more opportunities for statist control under the guise of “saving the planet”.

Pretty much every person under 30 yrs old has been indoctrinated in it through most or all of their educational experience.

I fear you are correct. The left has taken command of the mass media outlets and the educational systems. Since AGW serves their purposes, they will continue to push for government action to stop "climate change." But thank God for the internet, where the truth can get out there without huge financial hurdles.

7 posted on 02/01/2013 10:25:39 PM PST by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: TBP

In some regions, the earth even seems to be getting colder - which is very stubborn indeed. Quite defiant.


8 posted on 02/02/2013 5:48:00 AM PST by BlackVeil
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To: SunkenCiv; TigerLikesRooster; landsbaum; Signalman; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Lancey Howard; ...
Thanks for the ping....time to see who else is commenting on this....

I suppose the grants will continue....someone call F' John Kerry.....he needs to know.

9 posted on 02/02/2013 11:00:49 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Rocky
JoNova has this:

Coldwave killing people in Russia, Britain, and the US

And a photo:

Norilisk, Russia. Photo from bigpicture.ru

10 posted on 02/02/2013 11:06:05 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Rocky; SunkenCiv
Not sure when he added som of his updates......

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UPDATE: over at Annans’ blog, now there is this new essay expounding on the issue titled: A sensitive matter, and this paragraph in it caught my eye because it speaks to a recent “leak” done here at WUWT:

But the point stands, that the IPCC’s sensitivity estimate cannot readily be reconciled with forcing estimates and observational data. All the recent literature that approaches the question from this angle comes up with similar answers, including the papers I mentioned above. By failing to meet this problem head-on, the IPCC authors now find themselves in a bit of a pickle. I expect them to brazen it out, on the grounds that they are the experts and are quite capable of squaring the circle before breakfast if need be. But in doing so, they risk being seen as not so much summarising scientific progress, but obstructing it.

Readers may recall this now famous graph from the IPCC leak, animated and annotated by Dr. Ira Glickstein in this essay here:

IPCC AR5 draft figure 1-4 with animated central Global Warming predictions from FAR (1990), SAR (1996), TAR (2001), and AR5 (2007).

IPCC AR5 draft figure 1-4 with animated central Global Warming predictions from FAR (1990), SAR (1996), TAR (2001), and AR5 (2007).

Yes, the IPCC is “in a bit of a pickle” to say the least, since as Annan said in his comment/email to Revkin:

…combined with the stubborn refusal of the planet to warm as had been predicted over the last decade, all makes a high climate sensitivity increasingly untenable.

UPDATE 2: Annan also speaks about lying as a political motivator within the IPCC, I’ve repeated this extraordinary paragraph in full. Bold mine.

Note for the avoidance of any doubt I am not quoting directly from the unquotable IPCC draft, but only repeating my own comment on it. However, those who have read the second draft of Chapter 12 will realise why I previously said I thought the report was improved :-) Of course there is no guarantee as to what will remain in the final report, which for all the talk of extensive reviews, is not even seen by the proletariat, let alone opened to their comments, prior to its final publication. The paper I refer to as a “small private opinion poll” is of course the Zickfeld et al PNAS paper. The list of pollees in the Zickfeld paper are largely the self-same people responsible for the largely bogus analyses that I’ve criticised over recent years, and which even if they were valid then, are certainly outdated now. Interestingly, one of them stated quite openly in a meeting I attended a few years ago that he deliberately lied in these sort of elicitation exercises (i.e. exaggerating the probability of high sensitivity) in order to help motivate political action. Of course, there may be others who lie in the other direction, which is why it seems bizarre that the IPCC appeared to rely so heavily on this paper to justify their choice, rather than relying on published quantitative analyses of observational data. Since the IPCC can no longer defend their old analyses in any meaningful manner, it seems they have to resort to an unsupported “this is what we think, because we asked our pals”. It’s essentially the Lindzen strategy in reverse: having firmly wedded themselves to their politically convenient long tail of high values, their response to new evidence is little more than sticking their fingers in their ears and singing “la la la I can’t hear you”.

Oh dear oh dear oh dear…

11 posted on 02/02/2013 11:11:04 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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12 posted on 02/02/2013 11:17:40 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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More from the comments:

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Peter Miller says:

February 1, 2013 at 11:00 am

The Global Warming Industry’s gravy train just got another squeaky wheel.

Enough squeaks and hopefully it will seize up and fall off its tracks.

13 posted on 02/02/2013 11:41:27 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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14 posted on 02/02/2013 11:44:40 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
RE: "I suppose the grants will continue....someone call F' John Kerry.....he needs to know."
You are going to have to be sent to "sensitivity training school". :)
15 posted on 02/02/2013 12:43:35 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Marine_Uncle

LOL!


16 posted on 02/02/2013 4:44:15 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
On a serious note. I watched his lecture on global warming issues during his Senate confirmation hearing.
This guy is dangerous as hell on just that one issue alone. He actually thinks the science is settled on AGW and GW, and that people had better start to learn the facts.
The clown has been feed so much shit over the years that he actually believes in that stuff as being true.
17 posted on 02/02/2013 8:50:31 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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