Father of U.S. slavery was a black man

The Washington Times ^ | February 24, 2013 | Ben Kinchlow

[BipolarBob]

They didn’t teach that in History class.

[Resolute Conservative]

There have been more white slaves in history of the world than black.

Next we’ll have Black History Year, then decade etc... Followed closely by Fags week, month...

[autumnraine]

I remember learning it in college and was shocked.

[xrmusn]

They didn’t teach that in History class.
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I ‘learned’ that in History class.
I also ‘learned’ or was aware that the ‘slave transporters’ did NOT go into the bush or shanghai potential ‘cargoes’ as they were readily provided - at a cost - by the Natives of the African Ports where the ‘cargo’ was loaded. Also, so long as the ‘slaves’ were PAID for, the chances of any but the ‘MOST’ rowdy had to be kept in a physical condition as to be worth a resale value upon arrival at the destination.
Owning slaves was expensive, as it was your ‘responsibility’ to make sure ‘they’ were able to perform certain duties on a daily basis, so as to get a return for the ‘investment’.

A good portion of the original Irish were indentured servants, whose accommodations on the ‘crossing’ were somewhat less than that ever popular steerage and in the beginning, the Irish Immigrant was not favored much higher than the African Immigrant with the Irish ‘doing the jobs that Americans wouldn’t do’ and the Irish did ‘favor’ slavery, in as much, that freed slaves would mean fewer jobs for the Irish.
Of course those of us of Irish descent are eagerly awaiting reparations etc, but I don’t think I will ‘hold my breath’ in bated anticipation.

[NonValueAdded]

reference bump

[heylady]

Very interesting. At the end of the article is a list of questions asking you to vote on one that sums up your perspective on the article. I chose the one that said I was not surprised considering Blacks sold other Blacks into slavery. 54% also chose that option. Only 3%, out of over 800 votes chose answers along the line of :
1. Doesn’t matter whites continued holding slaves.
2. I want a second source to confirm this information.

[marktwain]

Europeans were routinely enslaved by Muslims as late as 1830. It is estimated that about a million were enslaved between 1600 and 1830.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_Pirates

[central_va]

Slaves were originally captured by other blacks in Africa. The whites didn’t capture them, there were captured by tribal lords to make money.

[Rodamala]

xrmusn wrote:

the Irish Immigrant was not favored much higher than the African Immigrant

...but we don't want the Irish!

[FamiliarFace]

The Washington Times is somehow listed as the cited resource, but the link redirects to World Net Daily. Maybe a mod will fix that.

[xrmusn]

..but we don’t want the Irish...
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Now that you mention “BS”, Chris Plante (WMAL AM630 WASHDC) had a caller bring up the “Sheriff Bart” arriving in town, when the townspeople ‘realize’ what the ‘new Sheriff’ really is and Bart ends up holding a gun to his own head and dragging himself back to the office - Once there he mentions How them ‘folks’ is sooooo stoooopid...”
The caller then cited BO doing the same thing....reading the script and going back to his ‘office’ for a good laugh.

[usurper]

the Irish Immigrant was not favored much higher than the African Immigrant with the Irish ‘doing the jobs that Americans wouldn’t do’

My understanding was that if the job was significantly dangerous they would use the Irish as apposed to African slaves. Slaves represented a capital investment of up to $600 dollars, which in today's dollars would be in the thousands. If an Irish man was killed or seriously injured nobody was out any money.

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

The idea that white slavers went into the bush to catch slaves was given to us by the movie ( and possibly the book, I didn’t read it ) “Roots.” The African chiefs who sold slaves wouldn’t have stood for it. They had armies of jungle fighters to stop any poachers. White slavers who went ashore would have been in “Indian Country” the whole time and lucky to escape with their lives. IIRC there were a couple of islands and select ports where slaves were sold, the only places outside ships could land.

[Ditter]

On reading the First Census of Texas 1835, I discovered my earliest Texas ancestors listed their property as 2 black slaves and one wooden clock. I did NOT inherit the clock! :[

[wardaddy]

in 1976 the entire month was declared Black History Month.

and boy do they lay it on....but often with the most ignorant blather

[dfwgator]

and in the beginning, the Irish Immigrant was not favored much higher than the African Immigrant with the Irish ‘doing the jobs that Americans wouldn’t do’ and the Irish did ‘favor’ slavery, in as much, that freed slaves would mean fewer jobs for the Irish.

"Alright, we'll give some land to the n@ggers and the ch@nks.....But we don't want the Irish."

[wardaddy]

wow...amazing

we weren’t brainwashed about the sins of the west when i was young

we venerated our history

sad for younger folks

I have to deprogram my kids all the time

but if one is inquisitive they can learn around the whitewash

you should read about the barracoon culture of the Bight of Africa in the slave trade days to get a real feel for the kinder gentler side of black history towards each other

it’s like Saturday nite south side of Chicago but with spears and other more culturally appropriate implements of torture

don;t miss the infant toss...the ultimate half time show

/s

* this stuff is such a joke...Rome burns and we pay homage to the matchlighters

[wardaddy]

you know

I am likely the last freeper expected to defend black suffering and all that crap

but this notion here expounded by so many that the poor Irish were so beat up upon here and to equate that with chattel slavery...however benign or not it was in North America compared to say...Saint Dominingue

it is absolute hogwash to equate those two

it’s like Irish today are claiming me too...BS

and I am Scots Irish aplenty...Sullivan

every new group gets some resistance

problem is today there is no resisitance and unlike the Irish these browns don’t want to assimilate...they want to take over

and they are

My greatX4 grandma was Mary Workman..an Irish daughter of a servant at William Dunbar’s plantation* in Natchez....Dunbar arranged her as my g4grandpa’s second wife when number one blew out after 16 kids...my g4grandpa was a cattle breeder who supplied Dunbar from his cattle works over on the Leaf river bottoms about 80 miles northeast

unless you were gentry all had it hard...and gentry lost half their kids by aged 6 same as anyone

enough bitching to go around

but all had it better materially and life expectancy than from where they came...maybe the occasional first son who ventured over had it worse

including the slaves...and you won’t hear that in black history month will you?

*Dunbar was arguably the largest land and slave holder in the US at that time...he also sent a fair number back to Africa before he was stopped by fellow plantation owners...Dunbar had been pretty tough repressing slave rebellions in his younger days

[re_tail20]

Good catch. Thanks. Just viewed the Washington Times before going over to WND, and had it in mind.