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DHS deploying in Homeland with weapons of war (MRAP APCs)
Examiner ^ | March 16, 2013 | David Codrea

Posted on 03/16/2013 12:58:57 PM PDT by Travis McGee

The sighting of a Department of Homeland Security Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) Armored Personnel Carrier (APC) at a gas station near Ybor City, Fla. on Wednesday is raising questions, concerns and fears about what the federal government is foreseeing in terms of likely needs for such armed and armored transports.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloodoftyrants; democrats; dhs; govtabuse; guncontrol; mrap; mrapdhssrt; obama; policestate; secondamendment; tyranny; waronliberty
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1 posted on 03/16/2013 12:58:57 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ApesForEvolution; ...

Compounded by the administration’s now “on the radar” push to further restrict civilian firearm ownership, the recent controversy over the potential use of drones over American soil to kill citizens without due process, and a longstanding and documented train of abuses tied to the militarization of law enforcement activities, those who keep an eye on such things are noticeably distressed. In the absence of once-pledged administration transparency and a vigorous and motivated watchdog press, civil libertarians are left with only speculation, and some are wondering if the predictable result, keeping activists on edge, is intentional.

Rest of the article at the link here.

2 posted on 03/16/2013 1:02:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

3 posted on 03/16/2013 1:03:41 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

If the government is so worried about a civil disturbance, why are they working so hard to disturb us?


4 posted on 03/16/2013 1:04:34 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Travis McGee

No help from the House, that’s for sure.


5 posted on 03/16/2013 1:06:38 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Travis McGee

Bump


6 posted on 03/16/2013 1:06:52 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Travis McGee

7 posted on 03/16/2013 1:07:43 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Dutch Boy

Good question. You would almost think they were instigating a civil crisis. You know, the kind they’d need to calm down with martial law. Once and done, goodbye freedom, goodbye Constitution.


8 posted on 03/16/2013 1:09:06 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

It may be that IF they ever start reducing the fraud and waste of Welfare/EBT, they are preparing for the inevitable inner-city tribal parasites’ assault on suburbia, taking what they “Have a Right to”, as they’ve been told we have to “Share”, and cutting their funding would force the crack-users to seek another source of income....gun sales are at an all-time high for a reason; people will protect their families and property when all Hell breaks loose.


9 posted on 03/16/2013 1:09:35 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: Travis McGee

So, who exactly is planting IED’s in Ybor City? Or are they just getting ready for an acquital in the martyr trayvon vs citizen Zimmerman case.


10 posted on 03/16/2013 1:10:27 PM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: Travis McGee

The unmitigated gall to put an American flag on that Gestapo Ghettomobile.


11 posted on 03/16/2013 1:10:37 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Travis McGee
UP...
12 posted on 03/16/2013 1:10:42 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for the website link.
Now that I finally have a good mobile phone, I’m on the lookout.


13 posted on 03/16/2013 1:11:36 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Travis McGee; Dutch Boy; shibumi

Hegelian dialectic.


14 posted on 03/16/2013 1:12:35 PM PDT by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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To: traditional1

Yeah.

These are here for Holder’s people.

Right.


15 posted on 03/16/2013 1:14:01 PM PDT by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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To: Gaffer

Exactly. To me putting the symbol of the US on a vehicle like that, a symbol for many fought and died for freedom, really fired me up when I saw that picture.

You cannot put lipstick on a pig and make it any better IMO.


16 posted on 03/16/2013 1:14:34 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Travis McGee

Martial law will result in a very noticeable civilian asymmetric response.


17 posted on 03/16/2013 1:14:54 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Travis McGee

Surely some reporter can just look into this and write a simple article clarifying the facts.

Why do we keep seeing the same speculation and rumors repeated endlessly rather than just a simple factual article, how old is this story by now?

How about “Running wolf” does he sound credible to you, more or less credible than “Modern Survival blog”?


18 posted on 03/16/2013 1:15:37 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: Travis McGee

DHS vs 90 million heavily armed and upset American citizens. Does the name “Custer” mean anything to these clowns?


19 posted on 03/16/2013 1:20:07 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: ansel12
You are waiting for a "real" reporter at a "real" newspaper or network to report on this topic, before you will take it seriously?

Did I miss your /sarcasm tag?

Or are you just that blissfully naive and trusting in the MSM?

"Ben Gazzi? Didn't he star in 'Fast and Furious?' Great movie!"

20 posted on 03/16/2013 1:21:40 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Vyacheslav von Plehve would be so proud.


21 posted on 03/16/2013 1:23:40 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Molon Labe!)
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To: Travis McGee

Of course I am waiting to learn if DHS bought 2,000 MRAPs or if the Marine Corp bought them, before I just start spreading the word and panic that DHS bought them as fact.

Shouldn’t we first determine if they did, if this happened at all?


22 posted on 03/16/2013 1:28:37 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: Travis McGee
A DHS officer talks about his MRAP
23 posted on 03/16/2013 1:28:43 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: traditional1
It may be that IF they ever start reducing the fraud and waste of Welfare/EBT, they are preparing for the inevitable inner-city tribal parasites’ assault on suburbia...

Taking which side?

24 posted on 03/16/2013 1:28:59 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Travis McGee

How about “Running wolf” does he sound credible to you, more or less credible than “Modern Survival blog”?


25 posted on 03/16/2013 1:29:30 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: Travis McGee
Just " Paint it Black" eh?
26 posted on 03/16/2013 1:30:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: ansel12

Do you know either one of them, or me, or David Codrea, or Sally Sweetlies?

Or do you think the black MRAP pics were photoshopped by conspiracy bloggers?

Or do you just love the taste of black boot leather? Lot of that going around lately.


27 posted on 03/16/2013 1:31:32 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: TigersEye

I was hoping that somebody would catch that allusion. Thanks for restoring my faith. Black as night.


28 posted on 03/16/2013 1:33:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
Okay, some ex-military needs to tell us how to shut these vehicles down, and I think the answer will be a focused EMP weapon.
29 posted on 03/16/2013 1:37:27 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Travis McGee

Photographing an MRAP is one thing, but the question is whether they own 16 of them or almost 3,000, shouldn’t we at least pretend to want to learn which one is true before we get all hysterical and just claim it as fact?


30 posted on 03/16/2013 1:37:50 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: Travis McGee
"I look inside myself and see my heart is black..."

The final frames in that video really struck me.
Young civilian women ... with guns.

31 posted on 03/16/2013 1:39:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Gaffer

Someone needs to arm themselves with some cans of Krylon and tag it with some swaztikas and hammer/sickles.


32 posted on 03/16/2013 1:43:07 PM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: ansel12

It doesn’t bother you that you have to wait for an explanation? It didn’t bother you that it took six weeks and a filibuster in the Senate for the 0bamugamites to simply say “no, we will not kill Americans with drones based on suspicion alone?”


33 posted on 03/16/2013 1:44:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

Don’t change the topic, my question is about the rumors of the 2717 MRAPs, are they for the Marines or for DHS?

FOR RELEASE AT
5 p.m. ET No. 015-12
January 09, 2012

CONTRACTS

NAVY

Navistar Defense, L.L.C., Warrenville, Ill., is being awarded an $879,923,195 firm-fixed-priced delivery order 0023 under previously awarded contract (M67854-07-D-5032) for the procurement of 2,717 units of rolling chassis; 10 engineering change proposals; and 25 contract data requirements lists, for MaxxPro Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles. Work will be performed in West Point, Miss., and is expected to be completed by the end of October 2013. Procurement funds in the amount of $879,923,195 will expire at the end of the current fiscal year. The original contract was competitively procured. The Marine Corps Systems Command, Quantico, Va., is the contracting activity.


34 posted on 03/16/2013 1:51:07 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: Dutch Boy
“Martial law will result in a very noticeable civilian asymmetric response.”

I know what Martial Law is, but what do you mean by an asymmetric response?

blame it on brain freeze- 18 degrees in Minneapolis. I just got back from trying out my new snow shoe (on the 8 inches of snow on the ground TODAY)

35 posted on 03/16/2013 1:51:49 PM PDT by BarbM (Portuguese Dog--Kenyan president)
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To: Travis McGee

Heavily styrene’d gasoline and black printer toner will blacken the windows and make it impossible to drive because you can’t see out the windshield.

The time has come to dismantle DHS and every SWAT team on every police department in the country. There is no reason for police to have that sort of firepower available to use on the citizenry.


36 posted on 03/16/2013 1:52:27 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: ansel12

I didn’t change the topic. You said you were waiting for an explanation. I spoke to that comment.


37 posted on 03/16/2013 1:53:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Yosemitest

see #36


38 posted on 03/16/2013 1:56:44 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

DHS with armored vehicals conducting warrant service?

That video is frightening as you listen to him talk about it.


39 posted on 03/16/2013 1:57:55 PM PDT by EBH ( American citizens do not negotiate with political terrorists.)
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To: rktman
So, who exactly is planting IED’s in Ybor City? Or are they just getting ready for an acquital in the martyr trayvon vs citizen Zimmerman case.

It wouldn't surprise me if a few were deployed in Florida because of that case... to protect the looters and rioters.

40 posted on 03/16/2013 1:58:17 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: ansel12

Let’s rattle your cage a little...

The Marines can be deployed inside the United States and are exempt from Posse Comitatus.


41 posted on 03/16/2013 2:01:32 PM PDT by EBH ( American citizens do not negotiate with political terrorists.)
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To: null and void

Not suitable for the Nut Job Conspiracy Theory Ping List. It’s out in the open.

Why not try the Bring out Your Dead Ping List? We may be needing that.


42 posted on 03/16/2013 2:04:32 PM PDT by OwenKellogg
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To: ansel12
Surely some reporter can just look into this and write a simple article clarifying the facts.

I'm sure they'll get right on it as soon as they finish writing their expose on the FBI machine-gunning Branch Davidians attempting to escape the flames on that dark April day in 1993.

43 posted on 03/16/2013 2:06:03 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: EBH

Rattle my cage?

When someone expresses the rational view that we should decide if DHS has actually bought 2700 MRAPs that right now seem to actually be for the military, before we start freaking out, what does that have to do with being an opponent, or calling for a cage to be rattled?


44 posted on 03/16/2013 2:06:57 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: Ouderkirk
a paintball gun can do the same thing from thirty+ yards...
45 posted on 03/16/2013 2:06:58 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: TigersEye

I didn’t say anything about waiting for an explanation, I am waiting to find out if it is even real, and wondering why a responsible conservative reporter doesn’t just give the facts.

Post 34 shows the Marine Corps ordering 2717 MRAPS a year ago, how does that relate to this rumor?


46 posted on 03/16/2013 2:11:43 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: Travis McGee

They are getting ready to go after these “Jews”! Who are these “Jews”? If you have to ask, you are probably in one of the categories of the nrw “Jews”. But as the judas goats on this forum continually remind us,”Don’t worry, there is an explanation...


47 posted on 03/16/2013 2:15:35 PM PDT by sport
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To: ansel12
I didn’t say anything about waiting for an explanation,...

"Of course I am waiting to learn if DHS bought 2,000 MRAPs or if the Marine Corp bought them,..." - ansel12 post #22

48 posted on 03/16/2013 2:15:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Dutch Boy
If the government is so worried about a civil disturbance, why are they working so hard to disturb us?

A tagline worthy of replacing my current "Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny."

49 posted on 03/16/2013 2:16:27 PM PDT by null and void (If the government is so worried about civil disturbance, why are they working so hard to disturb us?)
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To: Dutch Boy

Whatever Obama is preparing to put on us, he knows we will either accept it or fight it.


50 posted on 03/16/2013 2:17:11 PM PDT by Toespi
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