Posted on 03/19/2013 3:23:54 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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I’d say government has a role in guiding social standards. Stable families benefit society, and government ought to recognize and encourage such building blocks. If we pass up on the concept of standards for social behavior, then its anything goes and we lose all hope of a society with moral underpinnings.
That said, the states should be perfectly free to enact faggot marriage if they wish, through their Legislative, not judicial process.
As for the national government, there is no 14th Amendment or natural right to marry a person of the same sex, and no enumerated power to order the states to implement it. I differentiate between no national law regarding the institution of marriage and a tax code that promotes traditional families. Tax deductions for kids and no benefits for homo couples working for the national government is not a violation of any right or equal protection.
Great article.
A lot of the problems that government has encountered arise from the fact that government, specifically big government advocates in the Democratic Party, have actively tried to shrivel up the role of the church in our lives and replace it with government.
Providing for the poor used to be an act of Christian charity ... and now it’s being done by the IRS, and the government agencies it supports ... with predictable results.
Education used to be done by the church. All the colleges and universities founded before 1850 were founded by the various churches, with few exceptions. At first, public education (as created by the Northwest Ordinance) openly acknowledged the importance of religion as the source of morality ... but now government has pretty much taken over education ... with predictable results.
Marriage, as you’ve noted, started out as a dedication by a man and a woman to each other and to the church, and it was an exclusively religious institution ... then government started taking it over ... with predictable results.
I agree with this. Government shouldn’t be marrying anyone. Just let churches do it.
So many problems started by government getting involved in things it has no business in. By politicians gaining favor by bestowing government ‘legitimacy’ on one group over another.
After gay marriage is going to come polygamy. It’s going to be a constant irritant.
What prevents a couple from living together and calling it marriage?
Our government has not done what is best for a stable country for a long time. Based on that I am all for taking marriage out of the equation of politics.
I agree with you in full... but I do not feel it gay marriage can be banned on the federal level, and this country is in SUCH desperate straights militarily and fiscally, we must shed ourselves of ANY politically-damaging issues that prevent true conservatives from being elected and righting the ship.
I don’t think we’re going to be able to save this country unless we strip the GOP down to primarily fiscal issues, we won’t get elected battling in the social issues swamp with the left, so it won’t win us the presidency in 2016 either. It should be removed from the tax code too, as I’m a flat-tax guy... so government has no need to be involved anymore.
Maybe, but our government can no longer be trusted to do that. We have a government that's going to legitimize homosexual marriage. They've already legitimized baby killing. Gay marriage is happening and will continue to happen on a larger scale. Get them the hell out of the marriage business and let us define marriage ourselves.
That’s a Common Law bond, legal in 11 states
Nothing. What prevents it now?
What authority can adjudicate child custody issues? The church? Which one? The wive's or the husband's?
Suppose you and your wife die. Would you want your kids to be adopted by two homos? Are you kidding? But you don't care enough about your fellow man to turn their kids over to a couple of sodomites?
The list goes on and on. God help us!
But the government can declare that a man and woman can form a special union and this can be encouraged and recognized as valid and important.
I see no value in giving up and just saying "Whatever you like" to such a crucial institution. I'm a social conservative and proud of it. Government recognition of traditional marriage is a good thing.
“Id say government has a role in guiding social standards. Stable families benefit society, and government ought to recognize and encourage such building blocks. If we pass up on the concept of standards for social behavior, then its anything goes and we lose all hope of a society with moral underpinnings.”
Since all governments, in the end, are derived from the consent and will of the people, government is more or less going to govern with moral dictates as mandated by the people. If the people are sinful and corrupt, then the government is going to sinful and corrupt. If the people should repent and become as a whole, much more virtuous then its government, then over time so will their government(kicking and screaming though it may).
Thusly, unless the moral drift in our nation is corrected we are doomed as a nation. The only hope of the righteous folk left, after such a national shattering of our nation would be to attempt to dwell in those regions where people of like mind would join together to rebuild and as they rebuild, correct those flaws in those legislations and governing apparatus that led to our downfall.
What authority adjudicates them now? 40 something percent of births are out of wedlock.
When my children were minors, we had family designated in our wills to take custody. And I certainly hope you do as well. Back then, we weren't worried about the government giving our children to homosexuals but we still didn't trust the government to make the decision of who should be raising our children in the event of our deaths. No one should. But when a couple dies in testate, generally a family member steps forward. Already an in testate couple risks having their children raised by homosexual couples within their own family.
Our government has legitimized baby killing. They can be trusted on nothing. They should not be allowed to define marriage as there can be no doubt that they will muck it up in the end.
By whom? I personally don't recognize a couple as married unless they were married by a priest, minister, or rabbi. Without God blessing the union, in my opinion, it's nothing.
Quite sensible
My wife and I were married by a judge.
I'll go let her know that "old and tired" thinks it's nothing.
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