Skip to comments.Obama birth certificate story not going away
Posted on 04/21/2013 9:17:31 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
According to lead Obama investigator Mike Zullo, fear of ridicule is the number one reason authorities are not acting on the mountain of verifiable evidence of document fraud concerning Barack Obamas birth certificate. Appearing on the Carl Gallups, Freedom Friday call-in show, Zullo said, We are dealing with a fraudulent document that would never survive scrutiny of the judicial process. (1)
Disinformation and the intentional dissemination of false information to protect Obama, will not survive in the face of what Zullo is calling a 100% fabricated document. He listed the following tactics used to discredit the research of Sheriff Joe Arpaios...
(Excerpt) Read more at coachisright.com ...
Might gain some traction just in time to keep him off the 2016 ballot.
> “fear of ridicule is the number one reason authorities...”
Fear of blacks rioting is more like it.
now they’re saying 3 to 6 months..........geeez
Tsk tsk tsk....that is SOOOO un-PC.
40 lashes with a wet noodle for you!
Who owns the real estate that 'black rioting' would destroy?
Where, in terms of which political party runs the zones, would these 'black riots' take place?
Why would blacks in general riot over a criminal being exposed? ... The vast majority of black people wouldn't be 'rioting' so 'black riots' refers to a very small minority of thuggish individuals anyway.
Who are these 'black rioters' that would do the rioting?
Do we really want to keep such 'rioters' in the gene pool, anyway?
The keyword trolls have been busy anyway.
Lets examine that notion for a moment:.....my thoughts exactly. why let the whole d*mned country be destroyed to save rundown ghetto property?
They’ve been saying that for 6 years.
And Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, and other so-called “Conservative” opinion leaders are afraid to touch the biggest story of the century.
Obama birth certificate story not going away? It might as well, since no one who can do something about it will. Looks like the people at C-Pac reneged on their promise — one saying something like “We don’t remember making that promise.” I wonder who “We” are?
I’m going to find it very difficult to vote in a federal election anytime soon. They can all screw themselves.
This would not happen in my father’s generation, forty years ago, that’s for damn sure. The Republicans forced Nixon out, and he did far less than that bastard in the White House.
His parentage disqualifies his holding the office of POTUS!
Throw the bum OUT NOW!
Talk about the urban renewal! ... Let’s roll, baby. Let the vermin vomit out from their dens and be dealt with.
We knew more of the backgrounds in two days of the lugs who carried out the Boston bombing than we do of hussein’s after five years.
Having witnessed the watts riots, middle of the newark riots in1967 and then finally rodney king riots
Risk vs reward. If thats the price for freedom, liberty . . .i say bring it on and clean this festering wound so we can begin to heal.
Just an ordinary citizen who had to jump through hoops and yet Obama has spent millions hiding his... why?
Damn straight they are; anyone here who actually thinks those talking heads are in it for anything other than themselves need to have their heads examined.
We knew more about “Joe the plumber” inside twenty-four hours than we know about Obama as of current.
No kidding.... It's sickening isn't it? They have proof positive the document is a cheap, poorly done forgery and it still doesn't matter a bit to them.
Wanted... One, just one Republican in the House with the b**** to start impeachment procedures. Even if it goes nowhere, forcing a debate would be historic...
I think it all changed during Clinton’s impeachment trial. They had the guy cold: he committed perjury straight up. Not only was he not convicted, but the MSM exacted a terrible price for all those who made an effort (to show that no one is above the law, etc.).
The end result was that Clinton rose in esteem among many voters while the house members who tried to hold him accountable were treated like pariahs. At least one lost his seat, & others faced an erosion of support.
There has not been a single time since then when the Republicans took a stand. It’s as if they chucked their principles & decided that being part of the DC Ruling Class trumped sticking their necks out for conservatism.
At least that’s how it looks to me. Fwiw.
the whole story will probably come out after Obama leaves office, and they’ll just say “what difference does it make?”
Well, they can do without my vote.
A very close relative of mine who is an Obama-bot and has Bush Derangement Syndrome, addmitted recently that Barry’s “Dreams” book has some “mistakes” in it, and she said, “so what” everybody lies”. Also, he’s one of the “greatest Presidents”. She also admitted that the only way for healthcare (obammy care) to work, is to force young, healthy people to pay for all the elderly and sick, but without HER giving up anything. I asked her if it was worth sticking it to her children and grandchildren. It is and they aren’t really going to be stuck because the “government can print more money” and Paul Krugman is brilliant.
This is the mindset of most of Barry’s voters. Nothing will change their minds as long as “theirs” isn’t touched.
And rightfully so. Obama is the only person in America who doesn't have to prove he's an American, even though proof is required for the office he has usurped.
It's quite simple. There is no documentary evidence proving Obama is a U.S. Citizen let alone a Natural Born Citizen. There is plenty of evidence proving he is an illegal alien continuously involved in criminal conspiracy.
Documentation, basic observation, and reasoning always lead to the same conclusion; Obama is a Moslem illegal alien bent on destroying America to further Islamic supremacy. He is and always has been a fraud. But this fraud is an enemy of country.
And so are those who put him in the White House!
I hear you. Here in GA at the moment my Senators are Isakson & Chambliss, two of the biggest RINOs in congress. Fortunately Chambliss is retiring, so there’s hope. It will end up being the Tea Party against DC. Hope we win.
“This is the mindset of most of Barrys voters. Nothing will change their minds as long as theirs isnt touched.”
So true. I asked a friend recently what he thinks of Obama’s presidency so far. He said, “He hasn’t hurt me”, & he touched his wallet as he said it. This guy gets a gov. check, & as long as it keeps coming in, he has not a word to say against the Pres.
Somehow you seem to be objecting to replacing the Rule of Law with the Rule of Ridicule. Such nerve! Obviously you are a racist. You probably don’t even think that the nation should be run like Ci-cago. Imagine!
Obama, can’t legally run in 2016,,,but he could declare a national security alert and postpone the election, and then stay in power to save the country...forever....
Not until congresscretins start investigative procedures to deeply delve into Obama’s background, the question of his BC remains a moot point.
And they won’t start it because, if the truth came out, all the enablers will automatically become suspects of a congressional conspiracy.
We knew more of the backgrounds in two days of the lugs who carried out the Boston bombing than we do of husseins after five years.
Well said, onedoug!
As long as there are more that support “robbing Peter to pay Paul”, we are doomed. Eventually, the “Peters” of this Country won’t have anymore to take.
That’s true. My friend’s sole concern is receiving his mo’ly dole. If somebody told him the only way to sustain it wd be socialism, he’d be onboard before you cd say ‘Cloward-Piven’. Asking him to think ahead to the point where the whole system collapses wd be like asking a cow to calculate how much hay is in an acre. It’s just not a concept/concern that’s on my friend’s radar screen. By the time calamity hits, it will be too late.
The certificate is irrelevant! His parentage disqualifies his holding the office of POTUS!
In my opinion, a careful, fair-minded student of history and semantics could not avoid the conclusion that a person of Obama's self-proclaimed parentage does indeed fall outside the founders' intended definition of "natural born citizen" in Article II. Nevertheless, to my dismay, the overwhelming majority of those who have any legal authority appear to be quite convinced that "two citizen parents" is not a requirement. That of course doesn't make them right, but it does urge me to attend to other potential fronts on which this battle can be advanced.
My point is that I think we are behooved NOT to regard the certificate as irrelevant! Given that there are numerous clear indicators that the document does not accurately represent an authentic original, there is sitting before us plentiful evidence that the White House website is being used to convey a fraudulent, forged document purporting to remove all doubt of Obama's identity and eligibility. While I support ongoing efforts to see Article II recognized as what it was intended to mean, I will certainly not therefore, turn a blind eye to the direct evidence of punishable, criminal forgery.
In fact, the reality that the Birth Certificate is forged, leaves us to even wonder whether the official line on Obama's parents is accurate at all. It could be that he was indeed born to two citizen parents on U.S. soil after all, but that would still implicate him as a natural born criminal forger.
I refuse to dismiss our de facto Commander in Chief from the penalty due him for his scheme to hide behind a forged birth certificate. Why should we not seek to hold the Obama administration accountable for this unprecedented defrauding of We the People? Bringing the forgers to justice stands as a fully worthy pursuit independent of the matter of Obama's claimed parentage.
Many people ridiculed Noah as he was building the Ark.
Many people ridiculed Noah as he was building the Ark.
Not according to my Bible.
I gues I was mistaken, I thought Noah was given a job to do by the Lord, and the people mocked him for it, except his family.
The reason that the congressional Republicans won’t touch this issue is because they woud have to disavow the word of fellow Republicans, like the previous Governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle who said:
“You know, during the campaign of 2008, I was actually in the mainland campaigning for Sen. McCain. This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact. And yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue. And I think it’s, again, a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this. ... It’s been established. He was born here.”—Governor Linda Lingle, R-HI.
And, the Director of Health for Hawaii under Governor Lingle’s administration:
Any committee chair in the House Of Representatives could issue a congressional subpoena for Obama’s original birth certificate in order to compare it to the whitehouse.gov version, but none of them will go near this issue. I believe it is because of Governor Lingle’s and Dr. Fukino’s assurances.
Your reasoning is faultless, but depressing. I’m hoping for a Black Swan event, if only to keep my spirits up.
Ah well, I suppose I just happen to have a few minutes day to indulge you a response, so here goes:
The specific wording of your explanation for Congress's choice to fiddle-while-Rome-burns, is wrong of course. If any Republican congressman is aware of an opportunity to publicly disgrace Barack Obama, there could be many motives for him to resist involvement, but there are very few politicians I think who would shrink back merely for fear of disavowing the word of the likes of Fmr. Gov. Linda Lingle and Dr. Chiyome Fukino. On the contrary, A typical Republican is quite content to disavow his fellows especially when he thinks doing so could win him increased recognition and favor among his constituents.
But I'm sure you didn't mean to have those particular words subjected to scrutiny, you merely meant them to provide a rather sideways segue into your larger point. So on that point, yes, I suppose it's possible that congressmen resist this issue not because they hate to disavow Lingle et al, but because they, like you, have only selectively and superficially reviewed the evidence.
I certainly can't deny that Lingle's words when taken by themselves make a decent case to the superficial observer that there's nothing to see here. I do not know what motivated the governor to issue that statement, but in the context of a very long list of questionable actions and statements flowing from officials in Hawaii, I find it woefully inadequate to seal our confidence that Hawaii and Team Obama have been fully direct and honest with respect to the birth certificate.
For starters, consider that Fukino (whom you seem to regard as an implicit source of reassurance about the birth certificate) used tortured and evasive language in the two key statements she made while still the Director. Then there is the matter of changing the name of the short form, the admission of Okubo, when pressed, that there was no way for her to say what the purported short form doc represented. There's the quiet name change of the short-form document and the quiet retraction of the recommendation that Long-form birth certs be used for applications to the Homelands program as well as the instructions for obtaining those forms. Let's not forget the fact that Hawaii kept insisting its hands were tied by the letter of the law regarding privacy protections, and yet they had no lawful justification for issuing oddly vague public statements about the birthplace and disposition of records for Obama. Oh and let's not forget the fact that Hawaii turned to the state legislature and their proposed vexatious requestor bill for relief while never once seeking relief by proposing to skeptics or the press that Obama himself could simply request that a certified copy of the long-form be mailed out directly from HDOH to some key doubting parties.
We have the curious matter of Virginia Sunahara, for whom at one time there were no records responsive to be found at HDOH, but then later was discovered to have a record that spurred Hawaii to fight the deceased infant's brother in court to prevent him from obtaining a long-form copy of her birth certificate, since doing so, HDOH laughably claimed, might bring harm to the fragile document. Let's see, there's the statement by Abercrombie, that there was something (something he would imply is less than thoroughly convincing) "actually written down in the state archives." Around the same time, as Butterdezillion reminds us, there was the curious appointment of Palafox and subsequent resignation by the same despite the fact that he had "no idea why" he resigned. Also chronologically coinciding was the inexplicably career jeopardizing detailed disclosure and immediate retraction by Mike Evans, radio personality and personal friend to Abercrombie. I'm sure you saw as completely innocent, the wrangling eight-week red-tape delay of HDOH to authorize an official verification be sent to the Secretary of State in Arizona, before ultimately capitulating with a weirdly worded verification, and equally innocent, I suppose was the refusal to confirm that content was "identical" in the verification sent to the Kansas Secretary of State.
Perhaps we would do well also to remember that at the lack of any plausible innocent reason, Team Obama took the extraordinary step of sending a law firm courier (with whom correspondence could be protected by attorney-client privilege) to carry the documents by hand from Hawaii to D.C., once they had finally made the decision, nearly 4 years into the controversy, to produce the long form. Lets see, there are all the many motions to stay discovery proffered by lawyers on behalf of Obama, not to mention utter refusal of those same counselors to provide as exhibit to the courts at any time through the lengthy legal battles a copy of even just the short form, let along the long form--though, to be fair, once a copy was unofficially printed on the back side of a page of official correspondence related to such a case in Georgia (nothing sneaky about presenting "evidence" that is officially off the record, is there?). Oh and lets not forget the litany of odd and foggy phrases concocted to for legal briefs crafted in defense of Obama to describe what we're meant to understand as being Obama's birth certificate.
I haven't even mentioned the document itself. In short, to this day no one has proposed a plausible sequence of events that would involve simply innocently scanning and uploading a pdf of Obama's birth certificate that could have resulted in the digital characteristics we observe in the pdf. In particular, there is no normal innocent means by which a document would have visible content hidden by a clipping mask, would have many high contrast elements that bear no trace of red-blue distortion, would have small white specks on one layer that when pealed back reveal the green thatch pattern behind them (x-ray scanning?), or would have multiple single bit-depth layers without corresponding layers of increased color bit depth. Zullo now contends he has a court certified expert who has sworn his conclusion that the document is not what Team Obama has implied that it is. By the way, let's do keep in mind that only one select media correspondent was allowed to touch the raised seal, and that, strictly behind closed doors.
Now I know the Selective Service System registration card isn't the same thing as a Birth certificate, so maybe it's silly of me to mention the fact that Obama's card has a two digit date stamp against all reasonable expectation, but one that is a stunningly perfect fit for what a person might produce if he had to come up with a 1980 date stamp in 2008. Yeah, I guess your right; even if there is something suspicious about the SSS form, it's surely for reasons unrelated what whatever circumstances make the birth certificate seemingly suspicious. Also, for the same reason, I'll ignore the fact that the SSS changed their rules regarding what they have to produce to aid which law enforcement entities only after MCSO began its investigation. And again since these things are surely too distant to be related, let's also think nothing at all about the fact that no one has yet proposed a decent explanation for why Obama is carrying a Conneticut-issued SSN, nor should we bother pondering why microfilm was supplied to MCSO documenting international arrivals for all of the months surrounding Obama's birth but the one week in which he was born. And, come on, it's crazily off topic to mention the photograph released through one of Obama's official web sites that curiously demonstrates how during a time in Obama's youth, his mother's left arm terminated into an oversized hand and wrist bearing pigmentation consistent with a person of African descent.
As I suppose you well know, this is a very brief summary of many of, but far from all of, the ocean of issues which persuade me to think that Obama's background narrative and supposedly supporting identity documents should be subjected to intense further investigation, including subpoenas forcing document access and law enforcement conducted interviews.
. . . But then again, as you've already pointed out most helpfully, there is that comment by Former Governor Linda Lingle, well-known to be a GOP teammate, that really just settles the whole question and should be seen as fully sufficient to set our minds at ease. I mean come on, what real reason is there to doubt the what the Madame Governor said?
Noble Emperor Nero, please accept my apology for supposing that people should take the forgery evidence seriously.
Anybody who is not suspicious is either brain-dead or an Obot at this point (but I repeat myself. lol)
We also mustn’t forget that Larry Sellin overheard a R Presidential primary candidate explain that nobody will touch the eligibility issue because they know it is way deeper than anybody wants to delve. IOW, they KNOW THERE IS TREACHERY, and they are afraid of stirring the waters.
I’m hoping that the terror attacks by terrorists that Obama’s regime had been warned of for 5 years, complete with specific ties to specific terror groups, and yet ignored..... along with the possibility that North Korea has a super EMP from Russia that is already in orbit just waiting to shoot through a hole in our south-facing radar..... will let these people know that if the treachery is not confronted, America faces an existential threat from OUR OWN WHITE HOUSE AND ITS THUGS.
Way past time for the stupid excuse of “embarrassment”, and the “don’t stir up the water” excuse no longer flies either. If we don’t stir up the nest we will be left vulnerable to all the attacks our enemies want to make on us.
IOW, it’s crunch time. Either we rise up and survive, or we cower in the corner and die. Members of Congress and the “conservative” media, it’s time. Now or never.
You say. . .
In fact, the reality that the Birth Certificate is forged, leaves us to even wonder whether the official line on Obama's parents is accurate at all.
You may be onto something there.
Whenever his Presidential passport expires, he’ll have to apply for another one. I would suggest that they focus their efforts on that fact. He can’t leave the country without a passport? Who knows.
1/ At the highest level the Republican party allready knew in 2008 Obama was not eligible due to basic US citizenship issues. Exposing him in 2013 means exposing the Republicans still in office from 2008 to severe damage, and possible legal sanction.
The Democrats actually helped John Mccain over the finish line to the Republican nomination, because there was a possible counter-charge on eligibilty to be made against Mccain, i.e. the confusion over his exact birth place and its status, so they knew that a “non-agression pact” could be signed with him.
2/ Even the Republicans not in office in 2008 are still subject to threats from those that were, especially the GOP-e ringleader John Boehner.
3/ The Media, especially broadcast TV National networks will be used to beat up any republican immediately with charges of “evil-RACIST!!!!!!!!!” “BIRTHER!!!”
4/ Hawaii politicians are leaning on Hawaii DOH to back up the lies allready told about Obama’s Legend - so any civil challenge in the courts that nails Obama will still be a long drawn out battle of attrition - making any Republican politician who speaks out a punching bag for the MSM for years.
5/ Fox news is cowed by threats against the business interests of Rupert Murdoch, i.e. Fox can be attacked by the DOJ [you are an evil monopoly in the cable business..” and the FCC can attack some Murdoch owned assets and any future Murdoch ambitions to own a new or existing National Broadcast Network go into the toilet.
That means no friendly, or at least neutral, news coverage from Fox if a Repulican lawmaker dares to raise his head above the parapet.
If he's that confident hen indict someone and put those documents into the judicial process.
No he couldn't.
And again in 12. Mutt's daddy was born in Mexico.
The fix has been in from "both" (actually the same) sides, for a long time now.
Looks like we had a pretty good “army” on the streets of Boston. Just deploy the them when the riots start.